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By Ashley Fantz, CNN
(CNN) - The political leader of Hamas says his group was not behind Wednesday's bus bombing in Tel Aviv. But Khaled Meshaal did say he believed the bombing was a response to the violence in Gaza.
A cease-fire, announced Wednesday night in a joint news conference in Cairo, Egypt, by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohamed Kamel Amr, took effect at 9 p.m. local time (2 p.m. ET).
In an exclusive interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Cairo, Meshaal - whose group is considered a terrorist group by Israel and the United States - spoke about the bus attack, which injured more than 20 people, and he detailed Hamas' mindset on the situation overall.
Here are excerpts from the interview:
Amanpour: There has been a terrible attack inside Israel today, in Tel Aviv. The first of these kinds of attacks in six years. A bomb on a bus, and there have been many casualties. Does Hamas claim responsibility? Did Hamas do that?
Meshaal: This question must be addressed to (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu.
Amanpour: No, no, I'm asking you. Did Hamas claim responsibility? Did Hamas do that?
Meshaal: Not Hamas, not others, not other people from, not Hamas. No one can announce except those who committed, not me. The lesson is what matters. What led to this? Who created the circumstances that led to this operation? It is Netanyahu with his crimes, in killing the kids of Gaza, and the continuity of aggression. He create(d) such ramifications everywhere. This could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in Gaza.
In the spirited interview, with Meshaal often raising his voice passionately, Amanpour asked Meshaal about whether he would accept a two-state solution that envisages the establishment of an independent Palestinian state alongside the state of Israel.
"And yet you say that you would accept a two-state solution but you won't recognize Israel's right to exist," Amanpour said.
Meshaal repeatedly said that the "Palestinians are offering peace" and blamed the United States and Israel for working toward situations that are not peaceful.
"How can I accept Israel? They have occupied my land," Meshaal said.
Amanpour asked him directly if Hamas is getting weapons from Iran.
Hamas is a "resistance" against "occupation," he said and it seeks financial, military and other forms of support from Iran from any state that wishes to support Hamas.
The group gets helps from Europe and from Iran, wherever it can get it, he said.
"So the answer is yes," to whether Iran helps Hamas, Amanpour challenged.
"I answered you," Meshaal replied.
Amanpour asked him to explain Hamas' end game.
"The end game is to end occupation," he said, and "peace throughout the region."
Cease-fire reached in Israel-Hamas conflict
CNN’s Ken Olshansky produced this piece for television.
They have to leave or nuclear war, so 3 million to the US a few million to the EU, UK ,AUS.
Keep dreaming. The Arabs must leave – a few million to Jordan and all Gazans to Egypt. Problem solved.
Damned ARAB's – stealing their own land.
Having Native American heritage, don't expect sympathy for Israel, from me.
Israel is the native homeland of the Jewish people. It was invaded by the Arabs and taken back in the 1940's. So you're native american heritage doesn't count here.
You might as well say that the Native Americans should have just left, some to Mexico and some to Canada and there would have been no need for the Indian Wars. I guess you also think Napoleon had the right to sell 2/3 of North America to Thomas Jefferson...and that Sitting Bull should have just recognized these two racist as the true authority, regardless of the fact that his people were the ones actually living on the land and had been there for the previous 600 years. Good thinking...
Devon you're completely wrong jewish immigration to the british mandate of Palestine slowly picked up through the early 1900s and then really became a big movement by the 1930s. Look it up and the Jewish Diaspora. Palestine had been predominantly arab for a very very long time. I of course think Israel has the right to exist and defend itself; I'm just saying Palestine has the right to a country (if they were peaceful) and Israel should stop settling on lands passed the 1967 borders (would make the Palestinians calm down a lot). If Palestine was a state they couldn't be aggressive towards Israel at all
Israel is not the native homeland of the the Israeli people unless you believe in their religion, which most people on this planet do not. If you do happen to believe that is fine but please understand that I believe in the Easter Bunny but that does not mean I have a right to all the Easter Eggs created since the dawn of time. Your ideas are based on nothing but what you think, which is how things like witch trials come into being. Facts are what matter and the Bible is a fairly tail with zero archeological proof to back it up...kind of like Big Foot.
"stealing their own land" ? if it were up to them, it would all be THEIR land. but being a native american, you're probably high from huffing gas and gambling.
Palastinians refuse to assimilate. 21st century democracy is the forefront of civilization. It is inevitable, just as the annexing of American land was. They refuse to move forward.
^ I meant @Catori
How about some jews back to Germany, some to Moscow, some to the ukrainem and some to america. Its not a dream it will be the back to reality Mr. American.
@Max. You are wrong. a majority of people believe in the God of Abraham which gave all of that area to the Jews.
And took it from the Palestinians.
Jews did not steal this land. Jews have lived there 3500 years. So have other people. What most do not realize in that much of the land in that area was bought from the arabs by Zionists. It is legally and historically theirs.
grey, why should the Arabs leave, just because you say so? You are not God to determine people's faith!!
Israel is the native homeland of the Jewish people. It was invaded by the Arabs and taken back in the 1940's. So you're native american heritage doesn't count here.
Oh really? well the so called JEWS in Israel aren't the JEWS from the bible. REV2:9
America stole the land from the Native Americans which isn't talked about anymore and they gave Israel to fake Jews in 1948.
shame on Obama supports killings of children and women. Obama is just like a monster, the blood of those innocent kids are on his hands. I think US is more responsible on the Gaza attack as much as the Israelis. US is becoming like spokesperson for the Israel.
You people are idiots. Not knowing history doesn't change it. The Israelites and the Philistines have been going at it, since before Roman times. If you don't know who they are then you shouldn't be commenting on it. They are similar people with similar lineage. That land belongs to them both, but religion gets in the way yet again. There were Jews before Christians and Christians before Muslims, so if you're going off religion then the Christians and Muslims are invaders on Israeli land, however the Israelis are tresspassing on Egyptian and Sumerian lands, but then we have the Neanderthal who also should take claim, if it weren't for the Dinosaurs.. Let them nuke the land and give it back to the eukaryotes.
You're quite wrong. I think Hungary's Jews have to go back to their Hungary, the Palestinians own that land and will continue to do so and live there. What I said about Hungary's Jews also apply to those from Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Russia, Morroco, Yemen, Iran, Ukraine and Canada. That's how real peace comes back to Middle East. Did anyone every stop and ask:Why are Jews being hated all across history in dozens of countries. In Spain and Portugal, they were kicked out. when the Jews STOP saying 'We are Jews' and START saying 'We are Americans', they'll start to be on the right course. What do these Jews that their God is their exclusive property? do they think ANY rational human being that God will choose the Jews, but not the non-Jews?!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since when is God a real estate broker involved in giving land to anyone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh come on people, stole "from the native americans" like the natives were one giant tribe? They were fighting each other before the white people arrived... so the (relatively united) white people did take land from the different native tribes, but it's not like they were one giant happy family in the first place.
@Catori, if you have read much about history, you would know that there is pretty compelling evidence to show that the Native American heritage you claim a descendent from, actually came across the Bering Strait and the frozen ice sections of Alaska from upper Siberia in the east roughly 6000-5000 B.C. and did the exact same thing that western European's did to Native American's. Just because one event happened in recorded history, and another didn't, doesn't make either case less important.
I LIKE the Idea.
It disgust me to see Israel after imprisoning the Palestinians in the "territories" lobbing shells and bombing them. Is this any different from when the US Calvary would set up their artillery and shoot into Indian villages? We now think that the US was wrong in doing that so why would we tolerate the Israelis doing it? I saw a poll in which 57% of Americans support Israel in this. I guess I'm in the 43 % that doesn't. What Israel is doing is wrong and I want to see Israel have to suffer for this latest transgression.
I kinda agree with ya rick as they say "People who live in glass house shouldn't throw stones"
This war has been going on for a thousands of years and isn't likely to stop anytime soon. To try and compare the United States transgressions on Native Americans as one in the same makes you completely ignorant on history in both the Middle East as well as the U.S.
More than 84% of Americans side with and support Israel. You are in much smaller minority than you thought.
This war has been going on thousands of years? The state of Israel formed this last century by mostly European Jews who have no connection to that land except for their Holy Book. I think W needs to get his facts checked before he calls others ignorant. You aren't George 'W' by any chance? :D
43% people actually care more about American issues and don't particularly worry about people that hate everything America stands for – freedom and equality. Palestinian people need to learn to deal with the criminal element among them and elect leaders that care about them.
According to Wikipedia, the United Kingdom of Israel was established in 1020 Before Christ. if I follow you well, since Israel was Jewish land long before the Arabs conquered the Land of Israel, they have the right to kick the Palestinians to the sea because the Palestinians have bombarded the Jews since they occupy their land and after when the Jews came to settle back at the beginning of the 20th century, that was 1 century ago, 1 century of intolerance and killings, terrorism, what do you want more ?
Since one century now, the Arabs are bombarding the Israelis after having stolen their land, and you compare this to the situation of the US Cavalry and the Indians, taking side with the Indians on one hand and taking sides with Hamas, a gang of rascals, thiefs, mass murderers and terrorists on the other hand.
Islam is forbidding possession of muslim land by foreigners, but has provoked muslims to conquer the whole World since it exists.
What is Hamas and what is the Us Cavalry , and where are the Indians ?
Were the Indian villagers shooting missiles into the towns of white settlers? I must have missed that day in my American history class.
The 57% support Israel based on the false idea that Christianity and Judaism are based on the same god. As unbelievable as it sounds these people actually think that two different religions can have the same deity at the top of the pyramid. The real kicker is that at the time of the Rapture, the end of times as it were the Christians believe the Jews will convert and the Jews believe the Christians will burn. It is just amazing what people will do to avoid going to Biology class.
Rick – I hope your children don't inherit your lack of intelligence.
Rick, you are 100% correct with your comparison of the Native Americans to the Palestine's. Both the Inidian wars and Palestine wars are about land and the removal of one group from the land so another group can settle on the land. And the idea that the war in Palestine has been going on since the dawn of time a complete lie, spoken by people who don't know the difference between belief and how to read a calendar. This conflict started in 1948 when Euro-Zionists showed up on the shores of Palestine, armed to the teeth and took the land by force, which is exactly what the Euro-Christains did when they showed up on the shores of North American. One could easily compare, using facts current day Gaza to a US Naive American Reservation, especially the part where in the more Euro-zion trash that shows up in Palestine the smaller Gaza gets. Then there is the control of movement and resources both in and out of Gaza. The fact that both the Native Americans and the Palestinians want to be recognized as a sovereign state, etc. etc. Some joker here seems to think that if Sitting Bull had rockets he would not have fired them at Custer...he claims to have missed that day in history class. The fact is he missed history class altogether...he was too busy playing Atari and sniffing glue. Time to wake up USA...the only difference between Palestine 2012 and the Indian Wars of the `1970's is...The US Army did not carry weapons with the words, "Made in Israel" printed on them. And you wonder why some people in this world want to kill Americans.
So you think it was wrong for Israel to shoot back? They are all children of Abraham, you know.
Nonsense, the arabs started the war with the Jews who have lived on this land for 3500 years.
Yeah Susie, keep telling yourself that... No everyone is brainwashed!! You see we have a brain of our own and can think for ourselves not for what you are trying to convince the world of!!
Very well said Max, there should be more people like you speaking with facts in hands than believes in religious views that are so extreme... Both sides are victims of the own believe, the Talion law – tht tells you eye for an eye tooth for a tooh, with this mentality the world will end up blind and toothless!! Those who live by the sword shall perish by it!
I read your comment and believe me I agree with you but I wanto to be able to understand. If I'm not mistaken Israel and Gaza were at peace for a while now,then the shelling started, now Israel is defending themselves and you can't argue that Israel has the upper hand because you have a group that's considered to be a terrorist group that hides between it's civilian people in which they pay the ultimate price then blame Israel as the agressors. I understand totally what you wrote but then again,you think the Americans are going to give back the land that they took from the Indians?.
it would seem the hamas leader presented himself well. they want freedom from their oppressors, israel
Micron like most israel firsters would suggest oppression and abuse by israeli's is justifiable. if israel was a real democracy they would grant palestinians the full rights of a jewish citizen, but they won't. why? it would dilute jewish political power in israel. israel is no democracy. it only uses countries, peopl,e and events for jewish people's advantage: not a good commentary for the race.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT MIDDLE EAST. THESE PHOTOS MAY BLOW YOUR MIND......
The last picture says it all. It's not an Israeli soldier! And this falsification has been exposed. I would ask you to check your facts, but you know the truth and you commit fraud deliberately.
By placing the Muslims' blame on Israel, by defending barbarians, you just invite the same furure for your own children and grandchildren.
While these pictures are disturbing, they only invoke an emotional response. You would be more effective if you used logic and explained why it is any better for Hamas to kill children than for Israel to do it.
Evidence of Hamas' War Crimes??
The depth to which israeli's disrespect human life for all but jewish people can be seen by the bulldozing of an american protester in isreal. jewish people now through their govenment practice nazi tactics on the population of palestinians.
all of these pictures are the result of hamas and islamic leaders in palestine who care more about destroying israel than they do about their own children, this has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years, in the last 40 years however since israels creation we have seen lots of attacks against israel compared to israel actually attacking others without provocation
the arabs will claim this is to protect their children, please explain to me when israel isn't occupying gaza anymore, or bombing gaza how sending rockets into israel and provoking their wrath (while those rockets are placed near homes, mosques schools and hopsitals) and subsequently getting your men children and women killed is doing anybody a favor?? because it advances your political position?? while that's wonderful and all how does it advance your society? how does it advance the bid for statehood?? when the whole world understands that israel reacts to attacks on its people with direct force and expects them to, how showing us pictures of your dead and calling it murder when it's clear that those that are killed are only killed because their leaders provoked a powerful military....please explain to me how that is going to bring peace to an area that hasn't known it in centuries
israel won't stop, as long as they feel threatened they will never stop, the ones who need to stop are the same ones responsible for the deaths of their children.....as long as hamas and bibi are in power gaza will never know peace
THESE PHOTOS MAY BLOW YOUR MIND....
Nobody has to leave, Zionism needs to be dismantled. Everybody in Palestine lived in peace prior to the
wretched racism of Zionism, that's what needs to go.
If Zionism "has to go," as one commenter put it, the BLAME for Zionism is on the U.N. and its member nations, who GAVE the land to the Jews. Even back then, there was so much antisemitism that no country offered to take them in.
I don't like religious governments of any kind, but Israel isn't nearly as loathsome as the Islamic states. Toward all nations that don't make war on them, Israel is entirely at peace.
"Zionism" is the word Muslims use for the religious state of Israel. They ignore completely the countless nations under Islamic rule. Maybe we need a word for THAT, too. "Islamism" has already been taken. Let's find a better one, maybe a more colorful one that reflects the ugly realities Islam dumps on whole populations.
I'd prefer if Israel had chosen a secular form of government, but on the whole, they've been tolerant of people of other faiths and cultures, and have only gone up against Arabs/Muslims when they do terrorism for Islam. When Israel was formed, it WELCOMED the Arabs presently living on that land. They became full and honored citizens, and I know of none who had any complaints. ALL the haters in Gaza are descended from haters from other Islamic nations. They are NOT an indigenous people called "Palestinians" who are native to a land called "Palestine." While I detest Newt Gingrich, he is a scholar of history. When he said that Palestinians were an "invented people," he was spot on. The immigrating would-be jiihadists copped the name as their own, then began propaganda to convince the world that the land of Israel was originally theirs. The shame is on US for being so gullible to their endless lies.
They GAVE the land of Gaza to these people who borrowed the moniker "Palestinian" from ancient history, but the people in Gaza are not FROM any "Palestine." They're from other Islamic states, mostly Syria. They came for the sole purpose of jihading against Jews. They've been slaughtering Jews LONG before Israel was formed, LONG before the word "Zionist" was coined. Their holy texts tell them to kill Jews wherever they may be found. The use of "Zionism" is a lamebrained attempt at justifying the killing of Jews. Their hatred is so towering that they can't even utter the words Israel and Jew without choking on them. If Israel ever DID change to a secular state, it wouldn't slow the Muslim hatred down by a hair. Because it really isn't the religious Jewish state that they hate; it's the Jews. Each and every one of them, wherever they may be. The goal of Islam is to wipe out ("cleanse") ALL Jews, through genocide. But they need our tolerance – or at least our restraint – while they do it, because we'll be next, you see. They have to keep us in denial of Islam's true realities, so we'll be vulnerable when OUR turn comes. And it WILL come. We prefer to wallow in denial of it, of course, which is precisely what the Muslim world requires for its success. They're VERY good at propaganda and lies. Better than even Romney! But then, Romney only had a year or so; Muslims have had 1400 years to perfect their methods.
Oh, and after destroying Israel and killing the Jews, they'll turn ALL their efforts into the genocide of ALL infidels. Unless you're a Muslim, pal, that means YOU. And guess what? Even if you hate the Jews yourself, they'll still slaughter you. And your hate of Jews is helping them justify the slaughter. It must make you antisemites proud. They've already launched attacks on the infidel (free) world, but are distracted by the need to wipe out Israel, as well as their own sectarian slaughtering. So much killing to do! So little time! But Muslims are patient. They're content to wait many generations before achieving their goals. They merely move, slowly, but inexorably, and in the end, they probably WILL conquer the world.
Occupying? Mr. Meshaal, please show us the Israeli troops in Gaza who are occupying the residents. If you can't prove it, we won't believe you. Closing highway access and sea blockades are NOT occupation. If Israel was occupying Gaza, they'd have been right there to apprehend the rocket launching fanatics. They didn't, because they are NOT occupying Gaza. I guess many have FORGOTTEN that Israel kicked many of its own citizens off their settlements in order to GIVE the land to the Gazan people, for them to run with complete autonomy. They used that autonomy to elect a terrorist administration, and to lob rockets incessantly at the people who GAVE it to them. It's hard not to realize, in hindsight, what a BIG mistake that was.
We must NEVER FORGET that Muslims LIE. They've been using lies to their advantage for 1400 years. And they have been conquering, nonstop, for an equally long time. This is because conquest is what Islam DOES.
We're next. You may think they wouldn't DARE, or that we're too strong to be conquered by ragtag Muslims.
You would be WRONG. I know precisely how they'd do it, and I also know they'd succeed. You only need to know Islam and do some thinking of recent revolutions, the new Islamic States in the world, the countless millions of Muslims already in residence throughout the free world, and it'll dawn on you how they'll do it. You'll also know that no free country would be able to withstand the onslaught, and even our gun-toting Rambos would be quickly rendered helpless. If Muslims are good at anything, it is conquest.
Study Islam, if you want a studied opinion of it. You cannot possibly have a legitimate opinion of something you know almost nothing about. All you know now comes from second-hand sources, usually heavily biased. The true Islam is in its holy books. Download them, study them thoroughly. Then you'll know. You'll easily recognize the lies, and be able to call them out, using their OWN holy texts to do it. They won't thank you for it, of course.
Before zionizem there was a Holocaust, British colonialism and turkish imperialism in that area.
There was no facebook or twitter or cnn.
People died and nobody cared.
What was so good about that?
Please read some history before posting comments.
Amanpour inerview again did not get the straight answers from the Hamas leader. Again and again there not willing to give a concrete answer and if he thinks that Israel is going to up all the land that their claiming not to mention Jerusalem as their capital there crazy. Hamas has to stop the shelling and Israel will stop bombing. I mean this is common sense, why would you start a war knowing that the odds are 100 to 1. I see this as a political war so Hamas can continue recieving not only arms but also money lots of money from Iran and other countries that support there cause and and what cost you may ask ?, inoccent lives on both sides.
being an israel firster is not an attactive image for you. israel is the occupier and abuse thanks to US technology. you are illustrating you will place an interest group above morality.
Much of the land that Israel sits on was sold by Arabs and Turks to Jewish Farmers. They thought that the Jews were idiots for buying useless land. But the Jews proved them wrong. There were Arab Villages expelled as there were Jewish villages as well in 1948. People don't realize that 1948 was a civil war. One side lost. I give Israel credit, most countries that win land in a war don;t give it back. I don't know of any others that have.
israel was formed through arab land confiscation. the only thing you are demonstrating with your post is you will ignore facts to support your preferred group. I just wanted to let you know it is obvious to all who read. I would try a different tactic if you want to actuall influence people
Look at it this way: Israel is the home of many holy places. Muslims have destroyed Bahai holy places, Buddhist holy places, and Christian/Jewish holy places. As guardians of this land for the world, the Israelis are obviously the only choice. If muslims are going to stay intolerant, they justly shouldn't be tolerated. Blowing up the Buddhist sculptures in Afganistan and desecrating Bahai holy places in Iran have sealed the Muslim destiny. They will never have dominion over these holy lands and that is their own doing.
Excuse me Matt; you have a very superficial point of view. I don't agree with you at all! If you want to solve a problem you can't solve it with another problem which can rise!
In your first saying you wrote that the Jews have to leave Israel. Why the Jews can't be in Israel and the Arabs can?! I want to mention you something. Do you know how many Jewish states there are in the world? (I guess you don't know so let me tell you) there is only one state which is Israel! Do you know what the size of Israel is? (I guess you don't know it too), so the size of Israel is 700 kilometers!! That's it!! Israel is so small; it is roughly the size of New Jersey and El Salvador!!! In contrast, I ask you a question, do you know how many Muslim countries there are in the whole world? 56!!! Where do you want the Jews to go? They have only one country! Where do you want 6 million Jews to go? I think the only solution is Israel. Furthermore, I want to remind you something. The Jews were in Israel over than 2000 years!!! But there are a lot of evidences that the Jews were before the Palestinian in Israel (Although a lot of people deny it!). A lot of Palestinian people think that Israel is their own and the Jews must leave like you said .However, the difference between the Palestinian people to the Jewish people is that the Jewish people want to live in peace, together in Israel, with the Palestinian but the Palestinian people don't want it .They want that the Jews will get away from Israel, and their excuse is that the Jews occupy them and control them strictly.
For your second saying, to erase the Jewish nation from the world by a nuclear war will cause the entire world to a third world war. You don't consider facts. I want you to understand the results of erasing the Jews from the world: Did you know that the USB was made by the Israeli people?
Did you know that the cherry tomatoes were made by Israel?
Did you know that Israel ranks third in the world in entrepreneurship, second in quality of university education and the first in the world to invest in Research and development?
So, I ask you again, can you erase such a developed nation from the world?!
So for your next time you are writing posts, please, consider facts, don't give superficial solutions and please I am begging to you, you don't help for the conflict between the 2 nations so don't make it more complicated than it is now .
They are finished.
Bus bombing inside Isreal?D monopoly of high grade chemicals in a thin sheet of graphite casing called bombs are yet to b felt by d common citizens of dat enclave called Isreal.Get out of all seized or occuppied land of these helpless people or wait for a holocaust in d wings.No escape route wt F-16 as a weapon of negotiation.D palestinians 'll eventually get better wt perseverance.Y enforce a blockade on a people whose land r confisicated wt no food or medic for survival.D ehd of this game is Isreals long plea on deaf ears.U bet.Whither Netayahu for Sharon and d Begin hv their regrets nw..
Last time I checked Gaza boarders Egypt. How do you think the Rockets get into Gaza from Iran. There is no total blockade, sheer fabrication. Makes for good sound bites.
Just to be clear – you are actually condoning rockets and advocate destruction of the sovereign country. What will you propose after destruction of Israel – who would you want for Palestinians to attack next? Actually their purpose in this world will be reached and they will become not needed and irrelevant to the rest of the arab world. They will be nothing compare to their "glorious" existence now.
the world supported the french resistance in their fight for freedom from the nazi's. you would suggest israel has some legitimacy in their actions. oppression of people has a cost
Now we are talking about time lime before they leave, it is the same thing this is slow, before they walked to the gas chambers. They can't be helped.
I use to drink with senior SS people, Hitler was a fool and the Holocaust was wrong. So we help them out, but they cant be helped.
Dude, you are drunk now.
Wow.D world just her citizens who voted Netayahu and Barak to power running frm unguided rockets while they unleash deadlier types on a people they have gagged,enslaved,brutalized in d guise of land grab or better still called terrorist.Hitler saw it in their moves and action early enough.No apologise, and shame to rest of d world who made a pitiful song of d holocaust.
Who dies more often... Police officers or the criminals? who has better weapons and tactics? which one takes the lives of others into consideration? and you're telling me the police officers are the bad guys?
I cant go back in oh well they are finished. Who cares. It was done a wrong was righted. That is it. Whatever. No more about it. You have a back President, it is finished.
Dialogue with HAMAS(declared terrorist by west) is political win for it and game changer. Mehmood Abbas with his authority is out of game
Most of Muslim Brotherhood leaders in Egypt strongly support Hamas. Israel is definitely missing Mubarak more than ever.
Iranians feel marginalised as Egypt has taken international n regional ownership of Hamas. Al Manar TV of Hezbullah also not too excited.
Egypt is going to open official routes(Roads)to Gaza. No more tunnels. Another huge political victory for Hamas.
Khalid Meshal (head of Hamas) is in Cairo. He himself monitored the whole truce talks.
Hamas firing missiles before ceasefire time to convey the message to Israel"you failed in destroying our abilities"
I'm glad Israel made the cease-fire deal. so when (not if) they break it again, they can hit back harder.
also I suggest they lift the blockade, that way if bigger weapons come into Gaza (it was obviously because of weapons from ships) and then the Israelis can carpet bomb the area instead of precision strikes like it just did. If they break this agreement again, they'll wish they were fighting a battle like they just did.
Its easy to talk about war and bombs while hidding behind your keyboard. I bet if you were in this area (Gaza) you'll shake and cry like a little girl. Cowards & bigots like you deserve to be despised & ignored.
I wouldnt dare step foot in Gaza if my life depended on it. I dont support what they support.
I will ask question from Christine Amanpour.. where does your impartiality goes when calling Hamas a terrorist organization? who gave you the mandate?
Hamas is an elected party chosen by the Ghazian.. i see CNN reporting Hamas as terrorist, you do not have any policy of neutrality or impartiality being an independent press.?
I am a Pakistani, we are considered extremists, when i see the discussions of Israeli officials they are far ahead of us in promoting extremism.
Christine is pretty much a Muslim sympathizer. Don’t bash her – she is your friend, Paki rag head.
They are called Terrorists, because of the morals and values they uphold. Styles of political parties are evident, like the differences between Republicans and Democrats. thos obvious differences get you sub-categorized into different categories... Hamas is 'on the record' with hateful speach and endorsement of ideals we here in the civilized world call ter-ror-ism. targeting of civilians and market places and war on a populace is a typical tactic of ancient warfare. Now that I know you're Pakistani, here's why you are most probably called an extremist. You sleep with said ter-ror-ist, and then lie about it. and imprison a doctor when he gives (fairly crucial information) to your "ally" against your governments wishes. you got a lot of stains of your country and your allegiance. something my country and other allies and advocates of a free world don't have.
Your an idiot canada..your makin me look bad because you have no idea what your ytalkin about
Canada, your ignorance is outrageaous! The pakistani people are the first victims of terrorism and they fight it. What Canada do? A part following like a dog the policy of US & Israel. Canada under S.Harper dismissed the "free will", the political autonomy. When israel will end the occupation, the apartheid, the racism and the hate speech the peace will come. Its all in their hand!
so, just to be clear.... you two vote for the "greater of two evils" instead of the lesser? I wouldn't wanna live in Gaza, but Israel isn't bad... besides racists like you smearing it's name.
At least 5 Israelis, 142 Palestinians killed out of this 40 are children
Now you are define the moral values of Israel and the west. US and Europe defended Israel for its actions in Gaza.
aliswar, Ms Amanpour does not call Hamas a terrorist organization. The story simply says that the United States and Israel consider them a terrorist organization...
As for Hamas saying they aren't responsible for the bus bombing, if you believe that, I have some good prime swampland and a bridge to sell you...
Dear .. every host at the CNN calls Hamas terrorist.
Last month the Imam of Kabba called to boycott the western media indeed he is right..
Come on Meshal. Why so Coy all of a sudden. A terrorist never changes his spots.. You lot glory in the killing and mass slaughter of Israeli civilians Its how you achieve martyrdom. Every Israeli murder is a notch in your bloody bedpost.
You call for the annihilation of all Jews and you show your intent by carpet bombing the Jewish state over 14000 times. EVERY rocket shell and mortar intent on killing women and children, old and infirm, Muslim Christian or Jew.
Brave Amanpour caught you out and like a pathetic coward you prevaricated and blamed your enemy for the atrocity. . No ones fooled by your cowardly deflection. Your pathetic attempt at contrition.
YOU PLANTED THE BOMB, YOU KILL THE CIVILIANS YOU HIDE BEHIND HUMAN SHIELDS
Grotesque uncivil and inhumane!
Vanity prevails. There will continue to be rockets or intrusions with the assistance of Egypt.
Israel needs to quit playing wackimo with the rocket launching sights. It needs to definitively crush Hamas.
To the white Americans supporting the idea that the Arabs should leave their own land, when the FUKK are you going to leave MY country.
Blow it out your filthy a-s-s.
That is Israels land, they've been there for 4,000 years. The people fighting for gaza aren't the canaanites, just some refugees trying to fight for something that isn't and never was theirs.
I even hear people calling them the Philistines.... then I shake my head....
Nah...it was taken from you before christ.
when you heal the cancer of the Earth you cause. any time now would help, then we could use our funds to better our world. ... i'm waiting.
Another ignorant person who cannot express themselves without using profanity.
You want to know why you were wiped out? Just keep reading your posts... You'll figure it out.
Sounds like your god needs a better real estate agent.
Nobody will be able to live there if the radiation levels are so high you can cook on rocks.
You just showed your prejudice. Why address only white Americans? Do you think no one from any other "color" can see you're full of s**t? You think Americans are the problem? If not for Americans of any color, you'd be speaking Hebrew now.
I was born here. It's just as much mine as it is yours
You should study history. The people commonly known as "native americans" were not the first people to live in North America. Even if they were, the land does not belong to people if they can't hold it on their own. Lands have been conquered all over the world over thousands of years.
Put away the Ripple and dope and get mainstreamed fast. You are a professional victim.
Read my name.
Wow u people are messed up...Why don't ye all just live in together...you both cliam to own the land...but really how much land can any man really claim...eventually all we get is a six foot by four foot hole in the ground...come on people its time to ends this non-sense
He's right... it wasn't hamas. IT WAS SANTA CLAUS.
a 2-state solution may be worked out - once israel and all arabs treat themselves as "blood of abraham" -isaac and ishmael - jave many things to share - just watch the Precious One reaction to celebration - obama and clinton may try to sabotage by planting seeds in israel ear - israel and arabs are blood brothers, and obama may not know it.
An occupation of Gaza is the most effective strategy to get the peace process back on track. I believe the best way for Israel to be effective in averting future rocket attacks is to maintain an indefinite ground occupation of Palestinian. I say so because if Israel continue to conduct aerial strikes, there would continue to be more civilian casualties. However, if Israel in on the ground, they would be better able to suppress future rocket attacks and at the same time reduce the potential for more deadly civilian casualties.
Whoops, looks like Hamas might have gone to far with that whole bus thing. Little rats are back tracking faster than a live shrimp chased by Michael Moore.
dialog with hamas and its recognition by egypt and israel is a big game changer - obama feels threatened. he will try to sabotage –he will tlk negative about it -clinton knows she was dissed and told obama. the egyptian foreign minister did not credit her in public, nor should he have. - it's all egypt, hamas and israel. NOT CLINTON AND OBAMA.
The entire region should be slagged, Egypt through Iran, Yemen through Syria (the Turks haven't really upset me yet, might give Oman some warning, also). Yes that especially includes Saudi Arabia and Israel. You can drill through glass to get oil.
Obama has his spies in the streams spreading negativity and hate - egypt, hamas and israel are all greater -i hope dependency on america and europe decreases with time. egypt can have higher stature. egypt will keep trying but obama MAY try to sabotge egypt and hamas stature -- obama loathes the happiness and celebration
You're out of your mind.
obama spies can tell obama he is full of crap –obama was drinking french wine in far eat with clinton and his boy toys. obama did not know where to start the peace process. this is historical - we are happy for israelis and arabs - they are of abraham's ancient blood -they know their future without declining western interference now
isaac and ishmael can thank egypt, hamas and israel
Palestinians need to be eliminated anyway possible.Useless garbage.
I am sure you know many Palestininans personally to have such a strong opinion. I am sure you are not an ignorant fool at all.
too bad CNN cannot show a photo of obama shaking his feminine hands with netanyehu, pres. mosry and hamas leader.
let's pray for 24 hours of quiet without obama sabotage
most people do not know isaac and ishmael - CNN and mideast know them well :)
obama feels jealous - the spies have no clue what mideast has planned - so go away little blue lice
Usually, the bad guys don't have any problem claiming responsibility so why wouldn't Hamas? Are they fearful of total obliteration? Sounds like what's been going on between Iran and Israel for the past couple of years.
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY - I wish israel and all arabs well - CLINTON LEGACY??????????? LMFAO
Non-violent resistance is the only way to achieve lasting change and human rights. Violence begets violence. Until the Palestinian accept this they will be no lasting peace. It is a long long
difficult road but it is the only true path to peace and human rights. ask MLK, Gandi, Suu Kyi, Nelson Madela, Egypt, Tunsia, The Dali Lama and Jesus.
sorry, what did you want hamas to ask jesus?
Obama is full of crap - Clinton did NOTHING - Obama made phone calls and promised more "protection and money" for israel - OBAMbi-poo poo is a weak little girl - kiss my "free stuff' dirty b**ch - OBAMBI DID NOTHING FOR THE MID-EAST - HE IS A DIRTY LITTLE GIRL -- HE CAN GO BACK TO BOSTON HOT LIPS - THE MEDIA WATCHED OBAMBI IN FAR EAST DRINKING FRENCH WINE -HE NEEDS HIS SKINNY BLACK BUTT KICKED - SUCK ME
How many eye for an eye, or tooth for a tooth events are there going to be in the mideast? Those that feel that Israel stole the land from the Palestininans need to go back in history. 1. Since when is Palestine a country, 2. When was it recognized by the UN as a country, 3. What does their offical flag look like. Who occupied the lands that Israel now occupies first, it sure was not the Palestinians as they did not exist back then. Who are the Palestinians, nomadic peoples from everywhere. So, the root is Isreal has as more right to live where they do then the Arabs do. They actually made something out of nothing and now the Arabs want what they made becasue they do not have the tallent to make it themselves, they only posess the ability to only distory things.
As usual, point at the other side and blame them for everything. It takes tow to tango and these two have been dancing for many decades. There will never be peace between the two sides in any of our lifetimes, just more of the same repeated year after year. Why bother talking about it?
Have to be show to spell "two" before solving Mideast war!
i do hope a few rockets strike the two terrorists , bibi and peres.
Unbelieveably ignorant putz.
OBAMBI-POO POO DID NOTHING BUT GIVE ISRAEL THE IRON DOME WHILE HE DRINK FRENCH WINE -OBAMA IS IRRELEVANT - CLINTON IS IRRELEVANT - CLINTON IS A FAT WHITE EVIL PIG - OBMA IS A LITTLE WEAK GIRL - NE WAS TOO BUSY WITH HIS BOY TOYS IN FAR EAST TO CARE ABOUT MIDEAST - OBAMA WANTS TO STEAL CREDIT FOR ISRAELI-ARAB SUCCESS - OBAMA DENIES ANY OF HIS TOTAL FAILURES - OBAMA IS A DIRTY PIG
Well that settles it Christiane, they said it wasn't them so it must not be. I think I have sort of accepted the fact that our President is fine with letting Israel burn...and so is the mainstream media. So be it I guess. Its what we voted for. I am confident the inner city voter had a deep understanding of the issues at hand. Right?
Even if it wasn't the responsibility of Hamas (in which I highly doubt), they are the ones that brought upon these tactics to the Palestinian people! It is because of them and how they project Islam on their people, that makes it okay for Palestinian radicals to plant bombs on crowded buses. Directly targeting civilians and aiming for maximum casualties. But yet when Israel specifically targets one individual and prevented unnecessary casualties, to the best of their ability, it is seen as an attempt to eradicate Gaza! Listen, if Gaza is ever gonna survive and live in peace along side with Israel, Hamas has to be cut out like the cancer that it is, brainwashing and using its people as mindless drones. The BEST part about this article is how Hamas feels justified for the a bomb going off in the middle of Tel Aviv, because they feel that Netanyahu pushed them to this? Pushed the Palestinians to act this way? We have been down this road before and it resulted in bombs on school buses packed with children, improvised hand grenades covered in nails being thrown into crowded shopping malls, and suicide bombings at restaurants during peak hours. Israel should not and will not live in fear. Hamas is a group of cowards that hide behind the people of Gaza. End of story.
ISRAEL SHOULD WIPED OFF THE FEACE OF THE EARTH SOON
Now, if you were apart of Hamas or Iranian regime, that comment would be forgotten. and Israel slapped for being bad.
"That bomb on the bus wasn't us. Those 2,000 rockets,..... well yeah, that was us." What a hell-hole.
Yeah, he says they were not behind it, but cheered the attack.
he doesn't say it!
she asked him if they claimed responsibility and he said they haven't. have they disclaimed responsibility?
They are denying that they refute that they confirm that the don't believe that maybe they did it.
OBAMA IS A DIRTY PIG - HE AND CLINTON TRIED TO STEAL CREDIT FOR MIDEAST PEACE - THEY DID NOTHING
Redfireball is a pork chop eating goat loving piece of camel crap'
Please read the bible ... the jews are not from israel.. the are also nomadic people.. they are originally from somewhere in present day Iran.. the Palestinian people have every right to the land as the jews.... the bible was written by jews so of course they would say god gave them the land after they had invaded it.. revisionist history.
I agree with this guy, Read the bible. and then disagree with everything else he says.
Typical Muslims. Either you join them or face being "wiped off the face of the earth". Hitler tried that once.
There is no difference in Muslims and Nazis except the Nazis are more clean.
Please use the qualifier "Extremist". Most Muslims are peaceful. In fact that may be the other weakness, is that they are not speaking out against the extreme activity of those that have hijacked their religion.
wiped this evil country israel off the face of the earth. terrorists are all jews
obama and clinton cannot steal the credit for mideast peace - they were in far east drinking french wine while mideast worked it out -- clinton is a pig, she is a big fat white PIG for stealing credit –CNN may have to say obama and clinton helped but we all know the truth - they were in far east - mideast was killing each other then agreed to cease fire - i hate obama and clinton for trying to steal credit - EGYPT, HAMAS AND ISRAEL - HILLARY CLINTON IS A PIG - SHE IS A BIG FAT WHITE PIG –SUCK ME HILLARY-DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND SUCK ME --OBAMA CAN SUCK ME LIKE THE WEAK LITTLE GIRL HE IS - SUCK ME LIKE YOU DO BOSTON HOT LIPS DEVAL PATRICK -SUCK IT B**CH
To say there was never peace in these area please read your history.. the was not conflict when it was part of the ottoman empire it was only after the Jews wages a terrorist campaign against British occupation and won Independence did they create the divisions between Jews and Palestine, They were all palestinians before this as this was the name of this area.
yes, do, please, read your history. and you will find that arabs started ethnic violence against jews in 1920 in that area and haven't stopped since. not that jews have been able to enjoy a lot of peace elsewhere in the arab / muslim world before then.
This story makes me want to puke. On almost ever news agency there are stories of how the Hamas leaders were celebrating the death of the jewish civilians on the bus. When will you start being honest CNN and admit violent muslims actions are the focus of Hamas, and not the "we just want peace" story you try to paint of the palestinians. Like ever group that doesn't mean all, but that is the main focus of the majority of Hamas's actions are to wipe Israel off the map. So you can talk about being keep from their homeland, but that is ridiculous since that is the outcome of war. Boundaries and borders change. These are the current borders of Israel. Live with it.
Get over it Refireball, you lost the election and your comments show why your ilk lost, nothing relevant only rhetoric inflammatory BS. That being said, I normally side with Israel, but from what I read this all started with an assasination of a Hamas leader. Israel may not like who they elected, but that's too bad, they were the aggressors.
You simply desinformed by biased media. Israel assasinated the head of terrorists after long weeks of rockets raining on Israeli southern cities. More of that, during just one week before start of this "Pillar of Defense" arabs attacked twice with RPG israeli patrol jeeps which were on ISRAELI side of the border, seriously wounded soldiers in jeeps. So who is agressor ?
Come on guys dont be stupid. whats the definition of a "terrorist organization"? something that kills civilians? well it fits quite good to any army including americans, izraelis, pakistanis , u name it.
"hamas is a terrorist organization" , what does it mean anyway? Every liberation movement starts as a terrorist organization, check out some history for that. if hamas had some f-16 or drones it would have been a frontal war. but they dont have them? so what should they do ? anyone in their place would try to cause as much damage and fear to the other side with what they have (stones, knifes and some primitive rockets :D).
and what is this: they kill civilians? in any armed confrontation the majority of victims are civilians.
ever think... they put themselves in that place? why not just annex to Israel? you're for your family and a good life, not the lust of control. at least that would be my priorities. as for me, I'm patriotic of my country because it's good for my family... much like Israel as a matter of fact. Give the palestinians that live in Israel the chance to go back to Gaza and see how many still stay in Israel. convenience I guess is only good if it's something your in control of.
definition of a terrorist organization isn't someone who kills civilians. you come up with a fallacious definition, base some dumbphuckery on that and then lament that dumbphuckery resulted and you can't figure it out now.
terrorist organizations _target_ civilians. aiming to hurt civilians, kill civilians, and terrorize the general population. they take ordinary people hostage. every army out there doesn't do that. armies fight armed militants and their infrastructure to protect the civilians targeted by those militants. i bet you can't tell a difference between policemen and organized criminals either, huh? you're trying to justify terrorism, but you will need to try a lot harder before you make any sense at all.
People bringing up and mentioning Native American Indians is a joke. Its a great example but horrible joke, why? Because you don't hear them crying all the time about affirmative action do you? Nope, and you don't hear them crying about jobs and racism do you? nope but so how people here want to say "we now know that was wrong" REALLY? Did we suddenly recognize we did something wrong? Did we suddenly say we will leave all the land we took from them and let them have it back? Nope we never have giving them anything, and they don't go around crying and holding their mommies skirt looking for a hand out either. Please don't disgrace NATIVE American Indians and their history by comparing it to a bunch of terrorist and thugs.
According to the Mormons the Native Americans are Isrealites
cnn, "Hamas leader: Bus bombing wasn't us"
really? where does it say so in this article? the question was if hamas had claimed responsibility for the bombing and the answer was that they hadn't. failing to claim responsibility isn't the same as disclaiming responsibility. and if it wasn't hamas, why did they repeat their dumb post about opening some gates with their own soiled hands? what was that if not admitting responsibility?
WE WILL BUILD THE THIRD TEMPLE NOW.
THANKS TO THE ARAB WORLD
Christiane, you totally forgot to ask Meshaal about this statement made by Hamas:
"Hamas blesses the suicide bombing and assures that it is a natural response to the massacre of the al-Dalou family and targeting of innocent Palestinian civilians."
And this statement made by Hamas' official spokesman:
"We need more of these painful strikes inside the depths of Israel, in all the towns and cities and villages of Israel."
Christiane, you might want to bring some notes to your next interview so you don't forget to ask questions that can't easily be brushed aside.
the question was: "I'm asking you. Did Hamas claim responsibility? Did Hamas do that?"
the answer was:
"Meshaal: Not Hamas, not others, not other people from, not Hamas. No one can announce except those who committed, not me."
she asked if they had _claimed_responsibility_ not if they had done the deed and he answered that it wasn't up to him to claim responsibility.
Your comment is self-serving convoluted dribble. Is it so difficult for you to admit you support the intentional murder of innocent women and children to further your political cause?
"...the first Kingdom of Israel was established around the 11th century BCE." ... "In 635 CE, the region, including Jerusalem, was conquered by the Arabs and was to remain under Muslim control for the next 1300 years."
I am a big admirer of your professionalism
particularly in this interview where you stood up to his agressive body language.
You are a women's leader.
Unfortunately I must say Christiane wasn't as impartial as se must have been being the journalist that she is!! It's obvious Christiane stands for Israel!
Is anything being achieved by this sequence of comments?
Palestine is not a homeland of any Arabs. The Arabs owned the land when it was part of the Ottoman Empire, at which time they started selling it to the Jews for as much as 10 times the value. The Jews bought it, drained the swamps, and made the land prosperous.
At that time the Arabs started coming back looking for work on this suddenly prosperous land. That's when they came, after the Jews were already there. Also, the Palestinian Arabs do have a homeland declared as part of the Balfour Declaration. That land is named Trans-Jordan.
Hamas victory over idf has shown jewish state to be impotent. total victory is next war. all palestinians now rejoice in victory over idf.
ROTFLMAO, If you count firing missles and blowing up a bus victory, I get your point. If Israel would PLEASE stop worring about pictures of (innocent???!!!yea,right) hamass members suffering, the is lamic problem would be SOLVED!!
Israel, PLEASE just drop the hammer on ALL of hamass, those who love freedom will thank you!!!!
I figured that the bus bombing was a false flag, inside job to make the Palestinians look guilty.
See? there are Israelis that do want this war.
I hope it's a bad joke...
Land shall not be linked to nationality, religion or alike. It should only be linked to money. You pay for it, you get.
Wow. Deny responsibility for the action but cheer in delight at the results. Class act, Hamas. And before you come after me and start barking that I am "pro Israel," , there is enough bad behavior on BOTH sides. But the behavior of a political "party" responding positively to an act of violence that resulted in civilians being injured can only be labeled as reprehensible. There should be no room at the negotiating table for Hamas.
Hamas deliberately targets civilians whilst Israel does it's utmost to prevent any innocent loss of life.
There very nature is revealed in this!
Hamas is an evil organization.
Here in the west, we cannot understand
how two of the most religious peoples of the world (Jews and Muslims)
whom believe in only one true God and call others their brothers and sisters,
are killing each other for a handfull of sand...
Dear God, please govern their minds & hearts so that their political toxic-leaders (Netanyahu & Meshaal) don't misguide their innocent peoples to more hate.
150 M muslims = 10 nobel prizes
14 M jews = 130 nobel prizes
Give Texas and Oklahoma to the Israel.
Why listen to Hamas?
Hamas is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
I can't believe CNN would hear the terrorist side of the story.
In order to have lasting peace, Hamas must be annihilated. Remember, Hamas does not represent Palestine. It was better during the days of Fatah. Please look back at the crimes of Hamas against the Palestinian people especially the murders during the Hamas – Fatah Conflict.
Now, they are using the Palestinians as HUMAN SHIELD against the Jews.
DON'T LISTEN TO HAMAS, NO NEGOTIATION WITH TERRORIST POLICY!!!
1500 Million muslims = 10 nobel prizes
14 Million jews = 130 nobel prizes
Adolph Hitler was of Jewish origin too as was Alfred Rosenberg who developed Nazi ideology. Number of deaths are untold tens of millions including six million of Hitler's fellow Jews. Then we have Karl Marx and Joseph Engels who wrote the Communist Manifesto who were both Jews also. They have untold hundreds of millions of deaths on their hands!
Lance Sephyr : I'm talking about the nobel prizes not the nazi leaders.
but we can talk about leaders:
BTW- How many Arabs kill Arabs last year? Do you care?
BTW- how many Arabs have beed killed by their leaders last year? anyone care in the world ?
How many gays, women have been killed by the one and only Iranian learder?
it's not sound a peacefull race or peacefull religion .
Lance – I'm talking about last year, not 1940's. Who kill more arabs ? Arabs (Islamic) leaders or jews?
WHY DO THEY KILL THEIR CITIZENS ? WHY DO THEY KILL THEIR BROTHERS ?
Why the western world don't fight them?
Why they kill gays?
Why they kill women?
plz be honest for youself – Do you think is it peace religion?
BTW – arabs as individual ppl have the all rights. I'm talking about the arab culture and Islam religion (and not on years ago- thats anyone can't check , just last time)
and yes I know my English is bad- but read the contest not the grammer
All this interview shows how Mashal avoids giving answers to all the obvious questions.
He avoids because he knows no one in the free world agree with him. No one agrees to resist by throwing rockets on civilians, Everybody knows that Hamas's demands are not reasonable and no other state would have accepted them.
All Hamas and Mashal wants is more and more violence, even the Israelies are more concerned with the palestiniens well being (the civilians) than Hamas. This is why many israeli strikes and operationes were canceled in the last minute, because they didn't want to hurt civilians.. while Hamas targets israeli civilians.
Hamas will not lead the palestinien people to no where but endless violence, which you see Israel can be very good at if cornered. Israel does not want violence, it wants PEACE. The palestinien people should think about who they want to lead them and to where.. Hamas is definately not the way to go. It is recognized as nothing but a terrorist organization by the whole world except Iran and Syria. Palestiniens, these are your leaders? Just another terror organization? Wake Up!!
Look where they are leading you to. Israel is strong, you cannot defeat them by force! and Israel can't defeat you by force. But we shouldn't find a way to defeat one another, but to leave the violence behind us, and to recognize each other and learn to live as good neighbours.
So Marshal has admitted that Hamas aims not for peace or the two-state solution but only the complete destruction of Israel. Can any anti-Israel people here explain to me why Israel shouldn't response with full force to eliminate an organization that aims only for the destruction of her people?
Then ask yourself, if Israel is seeking to massacre Palestinians, why is Israel not blockading or bombing the millions of Palestinians living in the West Bank?
I have a bridge to sell this terrorists liars.
make a good post and they dont post. Write some ignorant hate filled comments and it gets posted. Way to go CNN you are a joke, more than Hamas and the people who support them. I hope you fire another rocket, so the international community can see that you dont want peace, only war.
They didn't bomb the Bus ? Jeez, I guess we had you guys all wrong ! ..................
It's perfectly easy to believe that Netanyahu ordered Mossad to stage the bus bombing in Jerusalem today. The jewish leaders of the racist state of Israel have done things like that many times before.
It is impossible to reply to your post but only that way – you are HOPELESS IDIOT. I am sorry.
Jews god is Christian God. Jews just mess up the Jesus thing and will get it at rapture. Same God is Muslim God. Muslim extremists can't read. Their religion is racist. Same message but they didn't want it from a Jew so Muhammad an Arab tells the stories, changes he details to fit Arabia, makes sure they keep money and travel coming to Mecca and Medina and use the sword to further his message despite the Koran calling Jews and Christians people of the book and all claiming the same descendants back to Abraham and even Adam. We find out who is right at death but unfortunately the extremists are being tricked into thinking killing themselves gets them a special place. In history the uneducated always get taken advantage of. Popes did it to Christians too. Everyone should read a little history. It just keeps circling aroundl.
We find out who is right at death....and the sooner the better for Hamas!
No problem with Hamas and their explanation since they are always so honest and sincere....just coincidental I'm sure. NOT
I don't know whether or not we can believe that Hamas was not involved in the bus bombing, however, it looks as if it had been designed to upset the possibility of a ceasefire. If not Hamas, I would guess Fatah or a splinter group from Lebanon.
Seems to me that the Palestinians will destroy themselves if given enough time and are allowed to be together again. The only reason they do not do this now is because Israel is situated between the two factions. They don just hate Israel, they hate themselves. Even their so-called "supporters", do nothing the ease their problems, except stoke their anger against Israel which costs them nothing.
why is this btch keep asking for destruction of israel from hamas. didnt he say he looks forward a palestenian and a israeli state by 1967 borders. go back and ask israel why are you not in your border. if you step over water your bind to go under water.
Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that no one on here can spell?
Anyway, I am half Jewish (European) and half Arabic – if someone is setup to be fair on this issue, it's me..
In my opinion, it is truly sad how we Americans are so biased on this issue. If only more Americans understand that only fifty years ago, hundreds of thousands of native, indigenous people to that area (Palestinians) were basically killed or literally thrown out of their homes.. What do you expect from a people who have been kicked off their land??
By the way, since everyone originally came from Africa, I am planning to go carve out my own country there. I have a right to the land, since my ancestors were there. Think they'd care?
This whole topic is just ridiculous..
It is hard to believe to your claim that you are half-Jew and half-Arab because you are liar. Seems like you made this claim just to add credit to your lies. The most majority of arabs who left their homes in 48 did it by their own, because they were called to do so by leaders of arab armies invaded just-born State of Israel from all around. They were called to leave their homes for to not fall victims of massacre that those arab armies planned to do on Jews. But then arabs lost the battle. And "refugees of '48" should blame themselves only and their fellows arabs.
Notwithstanding Israel-Firsters’ best efforts (which are pretty pathetic), fellow readers, please feel free to use any of the bullets below whenever Israel-Firsters complain that the Palestinians are making use of civilians as human shields. These bullets should be used one at a time and can be modified as needed so that the Israel-Firsters no longer have a monopoly on the subject of “human shields”, which they use to justify attacking Palestinian civilian infrastructure like apartments, buses, ambulances, press headquarters, factories, houses, apartment blocks et al each and every time!
My only advice is for different people to take the bullets required and use them individually one at a time as required multiple times on as many web forums as is feasible. Saturate the use of this information to the point that it is widespread with both the media and other readers so that Israel-Firsters become laughing stocks whenever they complain of Palestinians using civilians as human shields when it is obvious that Israel has turned its entire population into human shields that the Israeli military cowardly hides behind!
• Why does Israel endanger its citizens and use them as human shields by demanding that its soldiers use public transportation including buses to go to and fro to military bases? That is wrong, and Israel must stop endangering its citizens by hiding its military, their bases, and its soldiers among the civilians.
• Israel keeps complaining that Hamas hides among civilians but why does Israel endanger its own citizens by telling its soldiers to use public transportation to go back and forth from military bases? Israel stop using your citizens as human shields.
• Why has Israel embedded the Israeli Defence Headquarters deep in the heart of Tel Aviv and demand that soldiers use public transportation to go back and forth there given that Israel is knowingly making its own citizens into human shields?
• It is ironic that Israel is knowingly making its own citizens human shields by demanding that Israeli soldiers take public buses back and forth into and out of military bases, and then locates these bases including the Israeli Defence Ministry deep inside major population centres like Tel Aviv).
• Sad that Israel is using its citizens as human shields when it demands that its soldiers take public buses in and out of military bases that are embedded deep in the centres of Israeli cities like the Israel Defence Ministry located in the heart of Tel Aviv and where a bus was attacked that carried soldiers.
• Horrible to see how Israeli soldiers use Israeli civilians as human shields by demanding use of public buses and taxis in and out of military bases embedded deep inside of Israel’s major cities or even when they are outside. Why is endangering its own citizens by making them into human shields?
• Enough is enough….Israel always claims that Hamas is using civilians as human shields but why are Israeli soldiers wilfully using public transportation to get in and out of their military bases including public buses and taxis. Further, why are Israeli military bases and centres embedded deep inside of Israeli cities like Israeli Ministry of Defence in Tel Aviv (where a bus was attacked that also carried soldiers)? Also, why are Israel’s munitions factories and armament production facilities located inside of these cities. Sad that Israel is using its own citizens as human shields!!!
• I find it disgusting that Israel uses its own citizens as human shields by telling its soldiers to take public transportation including buses and taxis in and out of military bases that are embedded deep inside of major population centres. It is equally disgusting that Israel has located its major munitions and armaments factories inside these civilian areas thereby making its own Israeli citizens human shields.
• How ironic that Israel complains about the Palestinians using civilians as human shields as Israel wilfully endangers its own citizens by demanding that its soldiers take public transportation including buses and taxis into and out military centres such as the Israeli Defence Headquarters in Tel Aviv (where a bus was recently attacked)….crocodile tears by Israel ain’t gonna cut it no more. Israel stop using your own citizens as human shields!!!
• Too bad that Israel uses its own citizens as human shields by locating its military centres such as the Israeli Defence Ministry and military bases deep inside Israel’s major population centres such as Tel Aviv and doubles up the use of Israeli citizens as human shields by requiring that Israeli soldiers use public transportation including civilian buses to get in and out of these areas. Talk about using civilians as human shields, Israel is the best at this and then shedding crocodile tears to try to get sympathy.
• Hey, why is Israel embedding its major armaments and munitions factories deep inside its major population centres like Tel Aviv? Why is the Israeli Ministry of Defence located deep inside the heart of Tel; Aviv and why does Israel demand that its soldiers use public transportation including public buses and taxis to get in and out of its military centres? Sheesh but talk about Israel endangering its own citizens by using them as human shields.
• Israel must stop building munitions and armament factories deep inside of its major population centres as it is making its own citizens human shields. Moreover, Israel must stop building military bases and headquarters like Israel’s Defence Ministry in the centre of major cities like it has done in that case as again that makes its own citizens human shields. Worst of all, Israel demands that its soldiers use public transportation including buses and taxis to go to and fro from these military bases which is wilfully endangering civilians and making use of them as human shields.
• Ironic that Israel keeps complaining about Arabs using civilians as human shields when it has done exactly that by embedding the Israeli Defence Ministry and many military bases deep inside major population centres such as Tel Aviv and then requires its soldiers to use public transportation including buses and taxis to go in and out of there. Then it also locates its major munitions and armaments factories inside these major population centres and cries wolf when those locations are targeted. Israel stop using your people as human shields.
• The days when people are ignorant of how Israel uses its citizens as human shields is now gone. Israel, how dare you endanger your citizens and use them as human shields by demanding that your soldiers use public transportation including buses and taxis to get to and fro from major military centres such as Israeli Defence Ministry (located deep in the heart of Tel Aviv and where a bus was recently attacked), and military bases inside of major population centres. Israel must stop using its own citizens as human shields as that is disgusting!
• Why are Israeli soldiers making use of other Israelis as human shields by demanding to take public transportation in and out of major military centres such the Israeli Defence Ministry (which is located deep inside of Tel Aviv)? Additionally, why has Israel situated its major armaments and munitions factories deep inside its major population centres. It is disgusting that Israel is making its own citizens into human shields.
• Too bad for Israel that Americans are now on to the fact that it uses its own citizens as human shields when Israel demands that its soldiers use public transportation to go to and fro from major military centres such as the Israeli Defence Ministry in Tel Aviv (where a bus was recently attacked that had soldiers on it also). Equally bad, Israel has located major munitions and armaments factories deep inside these major population centres thereby wilfully using its own citizens as human shields. Hey, why has Israel located major military centres deep inside of major population centres anyway except to complain about civilian deaths when these centres are attacked. Sheesh, talk about cynically using your own citizens as human shields! Israel should be ashamed.
• Enough of crocodile tears by Israel that Palestinians are using civilians as human shields. Reality check: Israel demands that its soldiers use public transportation including buses and taxis to go to and fro from major military bases making civilians hostage to being attacked and thereby being able to whine how victimized the poor Israeli civilians are when they being victimized, in fact, by Israel’s own military and its political and military leaders! Reality check: Israel has located major military centres such as the Israeli Ministry of Defence deep inside the heart of Tel Aviv knowingly turning its own citizens into human shields! Reality check: Israel has knowingly located its armaments and munitions production centres deep inside major population centres again making Israeli civilians into human shields and collateral military targets. Israel should be ashamed of turning all of its civilians into human shields and shedding crocodile tears when they are victimized!
cnn is not respected, its asking one side questions and the other side they dont ask them question they tell them you have the right to live. they shouldn't be biased, they shouldn't tell one side they should ask both sides. now i demand and the whole freedom of speech follower's ask israel go back to 1967 border or else keep facing resistance. and resistance will come in all faces. and we support it. i support it and freedom to life support it. now you heard it live on cnn what the hamas wants. what he said is freedom of life and before you say their agenda is extinction of jews your wrong. and i bet you this is what the jews want to hear in the media that they want to kill us so they can go and kill and capture land. thats their agenda. agree it and see it.
"Israeli PR methods:
1. We haven't heard reports of deaths, will check into it
2. The people were killed, but by a faulty Palestinian rocket/bomb
3. Ok we killed them, but they were terrorists
4. Ok they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields
5. Ok there were no fighters in the area, so it was our mistake. But we kill civilians by accident, they do it on purpose
6. Ok we kill far more civilians than they do, but look at how terrible other countries are!
7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti-semite?
8. Repeat from step 1 (Test this against the next interview you hear or watch.)"
This is hilarious – very true!
Hamas Terrorists PR Methods:
1. Push Israel in to the SEAS!!
2. Death to all Israelis!
3. They Started it!
4. We want Peace. As long we getd everything and they get nothing!
5. Let the Jews go back to Poland and Germany!
Repeats as often as necessary till all the jews are dead!
coldcanuk ( dare to reply back)
this is what i mean. go back and listen carefully either you have bad hearing or your just saying what your jew fathers want you to hear. he said we accept the 1967 border. do i need to tell you during what time he said throughout the video above here? he said its up to the israeli's now what they want go back to international border line or face resistance till the extinction. your choice. same with me , if im oppressing and stealling land of innocent people you have the right to fight and resist me by all means. can you say that vise versa? be a man and lets hear that.
i think this amampoor is a israeli lover. as a reporter your not doing your job correctly. you just said that the palestinians right to return does not mandate or something like that she said... i think you should ask the media first what do you agree to israeli's border of international agreed border or what they captured. infact im going to call cnn tomorrow morning first thing. ask that lady what you agree. because her questions are all beyond the point of israeli occupation. ask a question that is inside the border line. enough is enough.
In my opinion, it is truly sad how we Americans are so biased on this issue. If only more Americans understood that only fifty years ago, hundreds of thousands of native, indigenous people to that area (Palestinians) were basically killed or literally thrown out of their homes.. What do you expect from a people who have been kicked off their land??
"There will never be peace until our enemies love their children more than they hate us!" – Golda Meyer
"We can forgive you for killing our children, but we cannot forgive you for making us kill yours!" – Golda Meyer
i dont think you have the right to ask questions if you agree with the occupiers and oppressors. this guy said million times we dont want to kill civilians. we are resisting. and this guy will fight untill israeli's go back to the border because thats what the millions of palestinians are waiting to go back their homes and land in refugee camps resistance is for their homes. resistance is for those homes demolished by israeli's out of their border. so will always support those that are being oppressed and defensless.
those that take one incident and say look their barbaric when one has a stone and the other has USA technology. look at what happend in new orleans during katrina . the police officers were killing , civilians killing civilians. should we defame the whole USA a barbarric. NO. but here the israel'is have the utmost technology , but that dont give them the right to steal people's lives and steal land. No Technology no Money, no weapons is adn will never be above life.
Israel-Firsters have conveniently ignored, masked, or hidden the fact that Jews were also killed by fellow Jews in World War II in untold numbers which many people do not know.
The fact is that Adolph Hitler was of Jewish origin as DNA analysis of his living relatives including a nephew shows and which has conveniently been ignored or hidden by Israel-Firsters for far too long!
Additionally there were tens of thousands of Germans of Jewish origin that served in the German Army at all levels including at the staff level re. Colonels and generals.
These Germans of Jewish origin were specifically defined as meschlinges by Germany. Many of these Germans of Jewish origin also participated in the murder of fellow Jews in the Holocaust or ignored that it was happening thereby making these Germans of Jewish origin equally complicit in the murder of fellow Jews.
These German soldiers of Jewish origin of the Nazi war machine were also referred to meschlinges in the German army definition manuals.
Israel-Firsters will either try to hide this fact or deny it or try to obfuscate this but it is a fact of history and readers can google the information or themselves by googling a variation of "Jewish soldiers of the German army in world war II".
Israel-Firsters can run but they cain't hide no more notwithstanding all their whines that "We are the only victims".
It is sad that so many millions of Jewish people were murdered by their own. It is equally sad that Israel-Firsters demean the memories of the victims of these Jewish Nazi soldiers by ohhhhh so conveniently ignoring the fact that millions of Jewish people have been cannibalized figuratively speaking by other people with Jewish origins including Adolph Hitler himself (DNA analysis of Hitler's currently living descendants including a nephew conclusively proves this – readers can google this information also if they google a variation of "Hitler's Jewish origins and DNA analysis". ' Nuff said!!!!!
reply back coldcanukkk
Your Sentiments in this matter are showing as extremely ainted and very racist just by your comment about my "jew fathers"!
You cannot deny the truths in my comment and you choose to attack racially instead. I pity you!
Name calling is the last defense of a person that has no intelligent response!
Israel has the right to exist Understand thats coming from me and all the Muslims in the world. because our ideaology is not based upon peoples race color religion or nationality. it is judged by peoples actions. the part you hear or see if you read about the religion completely it states about Jews was what they have done in the past how nonthankful they were and were arrogant and oppressing and if the revirt from this then they are good people. and if a muslim is arrogant and oppressor and nonthankful they are on the wrong. and we will resist them either be muslim or not. just look at the arab spring they are muslims fighting muslims one side is oppressor the other is freedom to live.
when 6 million of your people are systematically targeted for destruction, across an entire continent, based soley on the ancenstory, then you will have a voice that can be heard.
The terrorists amongst the Palistiniams are attacking Israel and when Israel retaliates they become the bad guys. This flawed logic shows your lack of knowledge of the history and past of the region and its people.
Again. I pity you.
yes targeting because israel is outside of the border of international and what the palestininans want their land back. starting from international and it is not meet. so can you fix that problem first then come and bring you claim then tell me who is looking to attact the israel after that i will fight them for you.
Remove the Zionist and those of the 13 tribe of Israel and peace will come to the middle east.
Based on International borders
That to international up until it is fair and square on both sides.
any one wants to battle with me Im on the palestinian side, any israeli or their side come up and step up for a challenge.
I hope the anointing of Joshua comes upon the army of Israel and that the terror of God goes before them. Wherever the soles of their feet shall tread the land belongs to them. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob shall rise and defend the apple of His eye.
its like cancenuk your saying a bully is saying why is the oppressed trying to look for a means of not beeing bullyed , why dont he shut up and sit quietly so i can bully . thats what your saying
Not at all. I am saying stop killing the children of Israel and forcing them to kill yours. Israel never blew up a school bus or bombed a school. They go after the leaders of the terroists who surround themselves with human shields and then cry when their shields are killed!
did you not hear. stop the occupation and stop the stealing of land the killings will stop. killing is called resistance. same when someone is about to attack you without being your fault its called self defense. so you saying stop the israeli killings. the first problem is israeli's occupation. because the occupation came first then the killings. what will you do?
this stupid anchor, says again and again ... "this is endless war, what u will do now to bring peace , this is endless war". well why don't u go to israel and ask them all these things... those cruel and ruthless people... how silly it is to ask a victim to end the fight... shame on u ... stupid pro israeli anchor. stop acting as neutral body.. u all are on israel side... stop being a jerk.. at least have courage to say in face that u are israeli's balls lickers... i took pity on u .. so scared of jews in america coz they control all ur economy.. these zionist control u all Christians... shame on u ....
All the people here and in the world that say israel is defending itself. first answer this problem do not oppress and do not steal land.then you wont be targeted. now lets see who is in the right side.
Israel – current status – weapons guns fighter jets and just to remind you NUKES, they dont have the balls to admit in international community because they know they are illigally occupying land and so on.
Palestinians – current status – rocks, un guided missiles ( if they were guided they would be towards the military first, then those people that support the occupation and so on ) resistance against occupation.
now if the israeli's are clean then and only then their right to exist can be honored
Why do you post using western first names? Who are you trying to fool?
Israel exists. It's a soverign state. It doesn't really need anybody's permission to "exist" Hamas believes that Israel is a group of Jews occupying the Palestinian' land. The problems in that area will continue as long as Hamas continues to act on that premise.
if you do that and after that anyone kills you i will support israel. and muslims will support.
let me ask you this , : what comes first occupation or killings
First strike is URDER and the Palistinians struck first with their rockets into civilian areas of Israel! Retaliationis just that! Protecting their citizery!
Using your flawed logic, then the US should never have gone after Al Quaeda because they were justified by their beiefs to do what they did on 9/11.
Your logic is so flawed it shows your racisism so overtly it is sad.!
you idiot dont you hear that israeli's will be considered innocent only if they are in their own border . let me give you an example obama told israel stop all settlements. why? you tell me.
let me explain to you little more better since you might not have a normal caring and a humane heart:
Occupation(killing is considered sin, and wrong and illigal, and dying while occupying what you get is hell if you believe)
Resistance( killing is considered good as self defense, its good in all good views and honarable, dying is martyrdom)
Murder is Murder. Calling it resistance does not change the fact nor the act.
I believe that there has to be a solution in the Middle East and I hope to see one in my liftime, but not as long as the Terroists teach their children to hate and that to kill a jew is a road to heaven and martydom.
Al Queda was RESISTING against the US Policies on 9/11. So you are saying they were jutified then?
Go blow a dog, towler-boy
If the murdering, lying terrorists say they didn't bomb the bus and murder innocent Iraelis...then why should we not believe them?
And on that Chris... I will stop responding to you for you are no different than a barking dog to me. You make noise and the more you make the more foolish yu look. Your OBVIOUS bias against the Jews is evident and your bigoted beliefs will not change by trying to have an intelligent iconversation with you as you only see your side and deny the truth about the rest. I am willing to bet you deny the Holocaust too.
Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover a myth?
Where is the real proof – archeological evidence, state records and primary sources?
Here's a question for you: what do actor Charlton Heston, DreamWorks animation studios and Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin all have in common? Well, they've all, at one time or another, perpetuated the myth that the Jews built the pyramids. And it is a myth, make no mistake. Even if we take the earliest possible date for Jewish slavery that the Bible suggests, the Jews were enslaved in Egypt a good three hundred years after the 1750 B.C. completion date of the pyramids. That is, of course, if they were ever slaves in Egypt at all.
We are so quick to point out the obvious lies about Jews and Israel that come out in Egypt – the Sinai Governors claims that the Mossad released a shark into the Red Sea to kill Egyptians, or, as I once read in a newspaper whilst on holiday in Cairo, the tale of the magnetic belt buckles that Jews were selling cheap in Egypt that would sterilize men on contact – yet we so rarely examine our own misconceptions about the nature of our history with the Egyptian nation.
We tend, in the midst of our disdain for Egyptian, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, to overlook the fact that one of the biggest events of the Jewish calendar is predicated upon reminding the next generation every year of how the Egyptians were our cruel slave-masters, in a bondage that likely never happened. Is this really so different from Jaws the Mossad agent?
The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.
It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist's best friend) with Hebrew writing on it. It is remarkable that Egyptian records make no mention of the sudden migration of what would have been nearly a quarter of their population, nor has any evidence been found for any of the expected effects of such an exodus; such as economic downturn or labor shortages. Furthermore, there is no evidence in Israel that shows a sudden influx of people from another culture at that time. No rapid departure from traditional pottery has been seen, no record or story of a surge in population.
In fact, there's absolutely no more evidence to suggest that the story is true than there is in support of any of the Arab world's conspiracy theories and tall tales about Jews.
So, as we come to Passover 2012 when, thanks to the “Arab Spring,” our relations with Egypt are at a nearly 40 year low, let us enjoy our Seder and read the story by all means, but also remind those at the table who may forget that it is just a metaphor, and that there is no ancient animosity between Israelites and Egyptians. Because, if we want to re-establish that elusive peace with Egypt that so many worked so hard to build, we're all going to have to let go of our prejudices.
ok coldcanuk let me ask you this. lets say i forget all the killings the palestinians did and all the israeli's did.
tell me if im right or wrong. I (individual) am saying i want the israeli's to stop the illegal occupation and stop stealing the palestenians lands. what should i do.? tell me a plan that will help me.. im open to hear your plan.
bigger issues.....like stopping obama from using the white house curtains to wipe the fried chicken grease off his fingers...I shudder to think what mooshells white house bathroom looks like.....ill bet its filthy knee grow
The reality is that the vast percentage of those that call themselves Jews today are only Jews by conversion and are NOT descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible at all nor do they have any connection to ancient Israel at all except what they have falsely mythologized as being their history.
In other words, a "myth for a people living on a myth".
The fact is that if Jesus was visiting today, he would be leading the fight against Israel's murderous occupation over the Palestinian Christians and Palestinian Muslims just like he served as the focal point against the resistance towards the Romans!!! Christian Evangelicals like myself don't buy into the nonsense spouted for too long about IsraHell by Evangelical leaders such as it is America's friend and ally and that those who bless it will be blessed by God blah blah blah......what a bunch of hoke. Last I heard, the Germans and the other European countries who had participated in the Holocaust and who had actively supported the Nazi's were all doing very well so sound bites don't cut it anymore.
The truth is that Israhell cares for nothing about America except how much money it can leech from the good ole US of A, and has corrupted America's body politic through it's special interests such as the America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)!
Fact is that America has prospered through it's own hard work and not anything IsraHell did. In fact, IsraeHell has prospered by leeching off American taxpayers and has been a curse on us since it's founding given the way that our cities have decayed, our schools don't have enough funds, and we are losing our jobs and our homes!
Moreover, God does not like racist apartheid states like IsraHell is, and it defies common sense for decent Americans to stand by and acquiesce silently to having made in America weapons used to kill Palestinian children, women and other civilians as IsraHell has been doing for far too long in order to steal their lands. This is against everything that has been taught to Christians and it is time to speak out loudly and forcefully no matter how false slurs of anti-Semite, Nazi et al are hurled out to silence decent Christians... This should be done even in the Presidential debates particularly seeing the outright deceitful behavior of the candidates including the serial adulterer, Newt Gingrich who foolishly stated that the Palestinians are an "invented people".
The truth is that IsraHell is an "invented state" built on an invented myth of a "land for a people for a people without a land" as even noted Israeli scholars like Shlomo Zand of the University of Tel Aviv in Israel are saying (read his ground breaking and highly acclaimed book call the "The Invention of the Jewish People".
Palestine, was never an empty land but always had (including at IsraHell's founding), thriving cities, towns, and villages, in which millions of the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible, namely, both Christian/Muslim Palestinians, lived since time memorial and whose very history is reflected in the Bible!
Prime Minister Nutty-Yahoo of IsraHell keeps on falsely demanding that IsraHell be recognized as a "Jewish state" rather than as a "Hebrew state" because he knows that neither Ashkenazim (European Jews), nor Sephardim (Middle Eastern Jews), have any connection whatsoever to the ancient Hebrews of the Bible, nor to what they call Israel period (except as far as their conversion to Judaism goes), as well as the knowledge that the Palestinians (both Christian and Muslims), are, in fact, the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible.
Fact is Ashkenazim/European Jews had their DNA analysis done (via project being done by National Geographic), they could verify for themselves that they have no Hebrew ancestry whatsoever but rather are of Slavic origins, and in some much more limited numbers of people either Berber Arab or Yemeni Himyar tribe background and this can be readily proved via mitochondrial DNA analysis.
This is why Nutty-Yoo's actual lineage is Polish as is that of Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Shamir, and Menachem Begin, while others such as Arik (call me Arial Sharon) Scheinermann, Golda Meir, and David Ben-Gurion are Russian.
Though some Ashkenazim may claim near Middle Eastern ancestry that still doesn't make them descendants of King David or the Hebrews. They were also converts to Judaism. To illustrate as said above:
– Yemeni Jews are converts to Judaism from the Himyar Tribe
– Jews from North Africa are converts to Judaism from the Berbers
– Jews from Spain, Portugal and other countries in Western Europe such as France, the Netherlands, Britain, as well as those descended from the Jews rescued by Sultan Mehmet II of Turkey from the Spanish Inquisition period (large numbers who migrated to Eastern Europe during the Ottoman Empire period), are also descended from the Berbers.
The truth is that European Jews (Ashkenazim) from Poland, Russia, and other parts of Eastern Europe as well as Europe in general are not from the Middle East nor are they descendants of the Prophet Abraham nor decendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible. They are descendants of the Khazar people of eastern Europe who converted en masse to Judaism between the 9th & 11th centuries under king Bulan II, or the Berbers of North Africa, or the Himyar Tribe of Yemen!
This is a historic fact and DNA analysis clearly shows that both European Jews (Ashkenazim), and most Middle Eastern Jews (Sephardim), are not related to the Hebrews of the Bible are of Slavic (Eastern Europe including Poland, Russia et al), origin, or Berber, or Yemeni origin.
By contrast both Christian and Muslim Palestinians are the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews of the Bible who converted to either Christianity or Islam, and DNA analysis shows this also.
In this context, as converts, while European Jews can practice Judaism, they are still neither of ancient Hebrew origin nor from the Israel of the Bible whatsoever.
It is for this reason that Prime Minister Nutty-Yahoo of IsraHell demands recognition of israHell as a "Jewish" state and NOT a "Hebrew" state – Nutty-Yahoo already knows that irrefutable DNA evidence would show Palestinians (both Christians and Muslims are direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews whereas Jews (both Ashkenazim/Sephardim), are not, and that these latter are, in fact, converts to Judaism who have falsely co-opted all the history of the Palestinians and the Bible for themselves – they have been living a myth that they are descendants of the Biblical Hebrews.
In other words, IsraHell was founded on " a myth for a people living on a myth"!!!
lighten up lance...no need to write a freakin novel
If you do not want to read, that is your prerogative! It is my prerogative however long I wish to as long as I want. Who made you the BeenYammerin' NuttyYahoo of these boards?
Finally .....someone knows the history of jews.... Couldn't have stated better!
In all wars, throughout history, to the victor goes the spoils. Only in the latter half of the 20th century did this BS about giving back started. Israel does not OCCUPY Gaza or the West Bank. They have given them to the Palistinians. They want MORE! They want all of Israel and ghave stated it and continue to state it to this day.
Is Israel 100% right ? No. are the Palistinians? NO! But that does not forgive the aggression against civilian populations by one saide that when they are retaliated against, become fodor for more hatred and loathing.
Lay down the arms and talk peace! But to talk peace, youhave to accept realities as they are today! Not as they were 50 years ago or even 1000 years ago!
The Ottoman Empire did not GVE BACK their territory. They lost it in wars. As did the ROmans and the Greaks!
Israel has made the first step. The Terroists in Hamas have not! There is no EMBARGO in the West Bank because they are trying to make peace work. There is in Gaza because they are not! And this you CANNOT DENY!
im not denying. just say you are the occupier and the oppressors. you have to look from every persons eyes before you fly that fighter jet. before you use that naval ship missiles. every dog has a day. and if a day begins it ends also just remember that.
We are the resistance and the resistance for the powerless. and we would love to be that till we die. because we are on the right.
When you fire he forst shot, you are the aggressor. And when missles fly back, they are in response to your aggression. And Israel did NOT shoot back after 1. They shot back after MANY! so restraint WAS shown, but comes a point when you must respond and this is what happened. You are not oppressed. You are aggressors that need to be held back for the security of the people of Israel. Stop being the Aggressor and the talks can begin again, in earnest!
President Morsy is an examp-le of putting aside your own ideology to find peace. I am sure his first instinct was to attack but he stood by the peace treaty and worked to make a calm so peace could be discussed. We need more of his kind in Gaza for this to work!
And let us agree on that last point about President Morsy and leave it at that Chris, as I am sure we won't agree on the rest and I grow weary of arguing with you about your percieved truths vs mine :)
RESISTANCE SHALL PREVAIL AS THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL....
His word is worth diddly. Just like that CNN report a few days ago about poor little Mahmoud that you broadcast the other day. Killed by Israel bombs and 3 1/2 minutes of vilifying Israel. Problem is, poor little Mahmoud was killed by a defective missile fired by Humas.
When it comes to biased, unresearched reporting, CNN is the world leader.
im going to call this biased reporter in the mornign as she said forget the history whats now. this leader told her they agree to the israeli's as recognized by the international community if they go beyond that we will resist. now im going to ask her go and ask the terrorist israeli leader the hamas is saying we regognize you if you stay in your border. why the occupation why the aggression. WHY WHY WHY . as she says why the killing of israeli's. she better ask him WHY the occupation and WHY the aggression, and WHY the settlements in the stolen land. why dont you go back in your own border and live peacefully. why? why?
idiot . why you keep pointing at resistance attacks as aggressors. when we are saying our attacks will stop once the occupation stops. end of story. so go back to you bed and wake up and pay your hard earned tax dollars to the oppressors because thats what best you do any how. thats the truth.
A closed mindis a terrilbe thing Chris. But you try and have a good night too. I am done as I laid out an olive branch for agreement between us and peace and you once again started with name calling. I am sorry for your hatred. I have none for you or anyone.
anyway's the jews controll the usa anyhow's. when did you eve hear the politicians say if isreal is right we will always support. they just say we support israel in any cause. as if they are not humans they cant make mistakes. actually just to remind you thats how they acted in the history books as arrogant and thinking they are above all people. and God never likes the arrogants. let me remind you thats in the bible also. incase you start a religion war here. lolz.
My gut feeling tells me that it was Netanjahu's people who planted the bombs on the bus, so they can pin those terroristic acts on the Palestinians or the Hamas. It is very clear to me. With acts like these, Netanjahu manipulates people's emotions so he can be re-elected for another term and be justified to attack or invade Palestine. Netanjahu doesn't want the United Nations to recognized Palestine as a nation, who in his mind are less than humans.
An George W Bush Blew up the World Trade Center becuase he wanted to start a war with Iraq. Sigh...ignorance knows no bounds.
atleast i dont have hatred towards color race or religion. my hatred is towards the arrogants and oppressors who think their race is above all. ask a jew yourself he'll tell you were better than the christians. were the chosen people. we say the believer and a righteous person is a good person. we say even muslim will go to hell if his good deeds are not met more than the bad.... and we pray for his forgiveness when passes . what do the arrogants say ? ' He's in heaven.
I went to funerals of christian friends and to jew's friends. you know what they say during his funeral they all say he/she is in heaven.
I say may God forgive his/her deeds and accept them in heaven because everything belongs to him.
listen you all in the European and USA have a major voting to go to so all your expressions can be expressed. dont be late. for the next vote in the supreme court.
Why do Liberals support Hamas?
It makes them feeeeeel soooool useful and gooooood!
This is the True face of Islam and Peace. just to remind you the palestinians suffered the most deaths and destructions still at the agreement of ceasefire going to affect they are happy and feel good. and if you look at the isreali side theirs is opposite.
Palestinians reaction to ceasefire: Many Palestinians in Gaza City took to the streets to celebrate the truce on Wednesday night, blasting car horns and setting off fireworks from rooftops amid celebratory gunfire.
link below to prove you...
isreali's reaction to ceasefire: its all about politics
You clearly are uneducated about war.
When religion is put in the discourse making people believe that they are better than others or that they are the 'chosen people"..... by whom?.I wonder...by god?... what god?... whose god?... the powerful and corrupt are the ones who do not follow the teachings of God and freely commit crimes without repercussions to them. In many instances, they have alliances with religious organizations, who instead of teaching love, justice and peace, claim for the assassination of third world leaders who do not support their materialistic values.
They dont want peace they want time and more destruction in the future. agreed or not?
PALESTINIANS HAVE OCCUPIED JORDON AND INTEND TO TAKE IT OVER TOO....THE JORDANIANS ARE NOT IMPRESSED BY THEIR HYPOCRISY!!
The bottom line is that Hamas will not accept Israel's existance becuase they view Israel as the occupation of Palestine. They will keep doing what they can to destroy it as a state, claiming that Israel is trying to destroy them. The conflict will just pick up again once Hamas refuels and rearms.
You guys all sound like clowns. Hamas is a terrorist organization and all they have ever done is targeted innocent people. They're all crazy. Israel isn't innocent either but the world is a safer place with them being more powerful than Hamas.
Iran is main supporter of Many Terrorist groups. We(The GOOD OLE USofA) and NATO need to take out the snakes head before they can get leverage which will be very soon!
I guess you are comfortable with the 40 years of oppression and killing by israel. most people have a conscience the other way. most people like consistant standards and balance. i pity your wife
by the way, can I come to your property, kick you off and then order you to accept it or die? you seem to have logic and decency problems. were you abused as a child?
"Dear Fakestinians. You suck." – The Civilized World
I have to admit, CNN was way more balanced than any other media group covering the Israeli attacks, while not forgetting the Palestinians.
Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by only 2 countries?? Lol
Bullsh!t. Complete and utter bullsh!t by Hamas. But then again, that's nothing new for them.
Enough of this argument about who's land it is because of when they lived there. Humans started in Africa, in the south, then migrated out through that land tens of thousands of years before the Israelis or Palestinians became an ethnicity (though how you get to be an ethnicity when you're a religion anyone can join is beyond me). So for all you fans of giving the land to those that got there first, Israel belongs to South Africa.
the only relevant history on land ownership is 1948 when land was taken from arabs and given to jewish people. is was a natural injustice to arab people in the region. end of story
Israel is an aggressor nation that creates conflict for its own benefit
1949 not 48
The biggest cancer in this world are Muslim fundamentalists wherever they are, whatever form they exist. If they are eliminated I would imagine 95% of the worlds bloodshed would be gone and the world would be peaceful. They preach intolerance and hatred like no other. Instead, they should spend money to help their people and not to make bombs. When their people have hope and something to look for, peace would follow. I guess there is money to be made by extending the cycle of violence. Didn't PLO leader had immense wealth when he died?
so you feel palestinians should live under occupation endlessly? perhaps we should have continued black slavery
Palestine people should not be the pawns. They should be provided the opportunity to improve their lives, which their leaders apparently have no interest in doing. The reality of the situation is that Hamas and the Arab countries don't have the capacity to defeat Israel militarily even without the US help. So the smart option is to face the reality and make the best out of the situation. Develop the areas that they control and give a better life for their people. I don't know much about ancient history of Jews and Arabs to know who has taken land from whom. If there is a genuine cause, Palestine people should look at how Gandhi achieved a lot without bloodshed.
kamal , U F-N jack Ass u are.
Where is Captain America??????
......."Here I come to save the day".
Hamas must have a representative in Israel who will be responsible for any irresponsible behavior by its members. This is the solution and here begins peace!
Guess these people are dumb. Look at war in history. You can't win your land back then go somewhere else. Look at America....Native Amercians were forced from their land. Hamas need to either invade Israel and man up. Stop your little bull crap rockets and stop hiding behind foreign policy. You want your land go take. Can't promise you that you wont be crushed, cause you will. Hamas don't want pease, so send somewhere else or crush them.
Just to reiterate the facts................the truth is in this post from yesterday.
If Zionism "has to go," as one commenter put it, the BLAME for Zionism is on the U.N. and its member nations, who GAVE the land to the Jews. Even back then, there was so much antisemitism that no country offered to take them in.
Study Islam, if you want a studied opinion of it. You cannot possibly have a legitimate opinion of something you know almost nothing about. All you know now comes from second-hand sources, usually heavily biased. The true Islam is in its holy books. Download them, study them thoroughly. Then you'll know. You'll easily recognize the lies, and be able to call them out, using their OWN holy texts to do it. They won't thank you for it, of course."
Reading conversations like this always leaves me with mixed feelings.
On the one hand I am encouraged by the fact that there are still people who are able to asses facts and context and call a spade a spade, even in this 'age of communication'.
However, I read so many dangerous words from so many people, penned from vehement mindset due to ignorance and/or malintent, even people who have free access to information, that I fear history is likely to repeat herself, except this time with far greater power to destroy placed in the hands of those who bay for blood.
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Do we really need another world war before we rid ourselves of the self-inflicted curse of political correctness, in whose name wolves parade as sheep, and that with impunity?
Is it true that our politicians and journalists pay respect to killers and liars on the world stage?
Do we really allow our young minds to be told that each and every religion is of equal value?
Matthew 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbour and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.
5:33 – "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement".
My fellow readers, I have no intention of causing offence. However, if the truth should offend you, and you wonder why, I would say this: those who create your metaphors create you, for thereby do they control both your thoughts and your emotions.
The pen is indeed mightier than the sword and by a word men both live and perishe.
As Jesus Christ once said, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free," as recorded in the 8th chapter of the Gospel of John.
May each and every one of you live by these words.
Time to grow up folks, because you reap what you sow.
The palestinians will kick out the jews eventually and will get their revenge from their family killers.
Israel, Jews were the cause of their problem today, and it will never end. The day Israel will find peace will be the very day the world comes to an END. They disobeyed The Almighty God, Unfinished Asingnment on the Promised Land
How much arabs paying to you to support your brodcasting shows or everyone know Obama supports and payd money for his campain.Freemasons.
Israel is onlu country what will stand forever.Lord Jesus comes and judge his enemies.So far everyone has time to get mercy and grace for God Almighty.
Allah is not prophet.,he is well know Moon worshiper.What he prophecied.
Live long Israel and destroy your enemies.
This was the first time I've ever seen Amanpour ask the real and hard questions and not just accept the propaganda as a valid response. Interviews are not advertisements; they should go to the core of the issue to expose true opportunity or evil.
Amanpour doesn't really get what the hamas leader's answer exactly, and keep asking the reverse questions
1. Shame on CNN to interview a TERRORIST with blood of the innocent on his dammed hands.
2. Palestinians nationality is the biggest lie of the 20th century. It never exist and there for a Palestinian state was never existed, which mean their talk of occupation is rubbish. If you do not believe me then try to fins any historical evidence of a Palestine state, coins, buildings, cultural items, somthing...
3. The Jewish – Hebrew right of the land of Israel is historical, you can travel the land and find old ruins with ancient hebrew text carved on the walls, text that almost every Israely people can read. The ruins are dates as to 2000-3000 years old, so what occupations are they talking about?
4. The truth about the Palestine people is that they are immigrants from all the arab lands around Israel, they during the 18th and 19th century to work for the Turks and English who ruled the land that time. small example: In Gaza there are alot of famelies with last name "Al-Masary", Masary in arab came from the word Egypt, in hebrew (Hebrew is very similar to arab) its sound like "Mitsraim" which mean – Egypt, also alot more of examples of places and cities from Syria, Lebnon and Jordan.
Iran was the first state to recognixe the jewish state, Turkey was the first arab state to recognize the jewish state.In the Oxford Dictionart a semite is a Arab, Assyrian,jew, or Phoenician,they are all cut from the same cloth. Any religion that tell one group that they are the chosen people and are better in the eyes of god has problems with it's neighbors. The Christans talk to god ,we call that praying, if god talks to the jew they have achizophrenta.
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