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Choosing Francis: Behind locked doors

March 14th, 2013
06:57 PM ET

According to veteran Vatican journalist Marco Politi, the initial traction in the papal vote was not for then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

“From the first leaks we understand that there was a strong candidate,” Politi told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Thursday. “The Italian Archbishop of Milan, Scola, who entered the conclave with the strong determination of his supporters to make him Pope But in the first ballots he couldn’t provoke an ‘avalanche effect’ to get more and more votes.”

Politi said that Scola then stopped campaigning and a compromise “bridge builder” like Cardinal Bergoglio began to lead the way and that man is now Pope Francis.

In the video above Politi shares other fascinating details about the papal vote.

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  1. porcupinefisheats

    It's odd that people keep referring to Argentina as "Third World." First, that's an outdated term. Second, Argentina isn't Third World.

    Anyway, I like the choice .... Francis is off to a good start.... I was never really a Benedict fan.

    March 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm | Reply
    • Frank

      Argentina will soon (again) be part of the broke world, never mind third world.

      March 15, 2013 at 1:39 am | Reply
    • Rodney

      Excuse me sir, but I LIVED in Argentina and yes, it IS a third world country. You may have been trapped inside the Buenos Aires bubble, but have you actually gone out and explored then you wouldn't have posted such an ignorant comment. Also, not sure if you follow Argentine politics but the president is a complete disaster and is slowly turning the country into the next Venezuela (she was an avid supporter of Chavez and his beliefs), so there is NO CHANCE of recovery.

      March 15, 2013 at 5:58 am | Reply
    • john

      The inflation in Argentina in 2012 was 25%...

      March 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Reply
  2. Daily Omunz

    Whoa!! Campaigning for pope? Please....

    March 14, 2013 at 10:01 pm | Reply
  3. jimmy lim

    What I cant understand is why argentinians are so stupid. Why fight over Falklands?
    1. In terms of land mass, Falkalnds must a minute area of the whole of argentina
    2. Land is barren until recent discovery of oil in the nearby sea
    3. No argentinian stays on Falkland
    If their argument is correct then Sabah must belong to Philipppines and Australia must belong to the aborigines and USA must belong to the red indians
    Argentina's claim is so ridiculous. Must b politics

    March 15, 2013 at 2:08 am | Reply
    • arumnbest

      whether u like it or not US of A originally belonged to the native americans until the british invasion, thats a fact. who are the so called aussies? its the british right???

      March 15, 2013 at 2:26 am | Reply
      • geoff

        Aussies are the Australians!!!

        March 15, 2013 at 3:02 am |
    • Anti colonialism carl

      What would you feel if suddenly a bunch of people come to your home and take over it, just because they are larger in numbers than your own family and they believe to be stronger and better than you.... They appreciate more your land and they believe they will make better of it, they build a bigger house and you can stay at the back of tha house doing some labour until your complete extinction and all of your descendants. What would you feel?...
      Colonialism is WRONG in my eyes, little too late to do something, it is all already done.... But I wouldn't use your arguments, they are wrong! Your home, your house and your piece of land should belong only to you and your descendants. Perhaps we wouldn't be here but we wouldn't have stolen anything from anyone.

      March 15, 2013 at 2:49 am | Reply
    • geoff

      The fight over the Falklands is about oil. It is now a known fact that there are huge oil reserves in the sea around the Falklands. That is where the issue beings and ends.

      March 15, 2013 at 3:04 am | Reply
    • oladapo famodun

      it's surprising that you could say such things .

      1. with the disparity in distance between England and the Falkalnds . how can they just claim right over the land .
      2. are they any British nationals who are living there ?.
      3. do you think if it was Russia or china or some other country with equally strong military might . do you think england will have the balls to declare war on them .?

      lets be honest, it's a classic case of over strong oppressing the weak .

      March 15, 2013 at 3:31 am | Reply
      • paul

        you Moran the Falkland people want to stay with the Brits. Argentina has no rights at all. The don.t care anyway about the People there. They want the oil.

        March 15, 2013 at 3:40 am |
      • jefnvk

        How long did Britain control Hong Kong?

        March 15, 2013 at 1:00 pm |
      • Marunchak

        As to your point #2, there are almost 2900 British nationals living on the Falkland Islands. Many of their families have been there since the 19th century.

        And as to your point #3, Britain hasn't declared war on anyone; Argentina invaded the islands in 1982, and the British expelled them; Argentina was the aggressor, not Britain.

        March 16, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
  4. Ram Kumar

    It is so good to see our new Pope. Everyday we read about fight and terrorist activities all over the world specially in the middle east and some Asian countries. Only the real God can bring peace and joy to human kind. Jesus came to spread love and joy to this world, lets our pope continue to spread the love of Jesus Christ. Lets stand firm and support our Holy Father. I want to see this world without terrorists, you know what i am talking about.

    March 15, 2013 at 3:51 am | Reply
    • PopesValet

      You should be ashamed of yourself. Your commen is extremely painful and the pain is compounded by the fact that this is second day of Pope Francis' investment. Please apologize forthwith.

      March 15, 2013 at 4:08 am | Reply
      • Person

        And your point!!

        March 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
  5. TrueBeliever

    His eminence was pleased.

    March 15, 2013 at 4:04 am | Reply
  6. PopesValet

    We approve.

    March 15, 2013 at 4:05 am | Reply
  7. Gerechtigkeit

    Absurd to say Scola was campaigning to be Pope.

    March 15, 2013 at 4:18 am | Reply
  8. Rocky

    woow... I thought the topic of discussion was the Pope... why are we talking about Argentina v/s Britain... this is not a Falkland forum... chill guys. There is a new hope and he brings in some Hope. Forget inter country conflicts and lets try to focus on how we all can be a better, smart and compassionate race

    March 15, 2013 at 4:24 am | Reply
  9. rom8222222

    another leak: the connection beetwen vatican and militar junta. vatican knew already in 1979 the thruth about the desaparecidos

    March 15, 2013 at 4:59 am | Reply
    • Wild_tango

      Not at all. Pérez Esquivel, Nobel Laureate for Peace, has stated that "Bergoglio has no connection to Militar Junta". The photo pertains to another priest, 30 years older than Bergoglio at that time.

      March 15, 2013 at 5:05 am | Reply
      • rom8222222

        the vatican knew.. thats enough for me

        March 15, 2013 at 6:21 am |
    • Person

      Until they allow women clergy and stop the "good ole boy club" our catholic relegion will have problems. This new Pope just put us back about 100 years with his ideals.

      March 16, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Reply
  10. OBY

    I DARE YOU.....

    March 15, 2013 at 5:16 am | Reply
  11. Sandra Blair

    Pope Francis, What lies ahead...

    March 15, 2013 at 5:20 am | Reply
  12. sirahj

    isn't it interesting that a Pope, representative of God on earth ( at least for Catholics ) is chosen by humans, not god himself.

    March 15, 2013 at 5:35 am | Reply
  13. sangye Thubten

    No one will be poor soon, when we get away with money.

    March 15, 2013 at 6:06 am | Reply
  14. Sergei

    @ jimmy lim

    What a ignorant fool you are.

    What I cant understand is why argentinians are so stupid. Why fight over Falklands? .
    ..... 'Cos that belonged to the Indigenous Argentine before it was discovered by the Westerner!

    1. In terms of land mass, Falkalnds must a minute area of the whole of argentina ..
    ..... mass is immaterial. Falklands is just a stone throw away from the mainland of Argentina. It is thousands of miles from the British shores!

    2. Land is barren until recent discovery of oil in the nearby sea
    ..... barren or not, it is a piece of real estate!

    3. No argentinian stays on Falkland
    ...... who told you this nonsense??? The Indigenous people were there well before Westerners.

    If their argument is correct then Sabah must belong to Philipppines and Australia must belong to the aborigines and USA must belong to the red indians

    ...... Sabah is indeed part of the Phillippinese. The Brites screwed up, just like what they did to the Indian continent with the splits of India, bangladesh, and Pakistan, not to mention Palestine!
    .... Australia and New Zealand belong to the indigenous Maori!
    .... U.S.A. belongs to the indigenous Indian!

    Argentina's claim is so ridiculous. Must b politics
    .... Argentina claim is legit, but it is up against a land grab Western nation with support from its fellow grabbers. In time the Brit will return Falklands to Argentina. Just like Greenland which will soon be independent from Denmark.

    March 15, 2013 at 6:13 am | Reply
    • jefnvk

      In that case, all the Argentine people that descend from western countries should leave and allow the purely native people to resume control of Argentina.

      March 15, 2013 at 1:02 pm | Reply
  15. Moe

    Can you imagine, Pope S-cola? Coca-Cola would not be amused...

    March 15, 2013 at 9:12 am | Reply
  16. HeyMoe

    and Craig Ferguson said that former Pope Benedict will now be referred to as "Pope Classic"...

    March 15, 2013 at 9:59 am | Reply
  17. GMak

    I read the article twice and could have sworn it was about the selection of Pope Francis. I guess I need new glasses. The "comment string" clearly is about England and Australia, and the status of Argentina and Venezuela... gosh, could have fooled me...'m going to read the article again and see where I missed it...

    March 15, 2013 at 10:39 am | Reply
  18. mkeey

    Pope Francis is an humble Pope. He fulfills my idea about a Pope. May God always bless him. I just hope though that in settles and balances the "the college of Cardinals". That in my opinion would be the first step to help giving the poors across the world voices in VATICAN. It cannot be that over 50% of the college of Cardinal are mainly Europeans. Solidarity, righteousness and commitments to the will of Jesus Christ shall not prevail as long as the poorest across the globe are denied their "fair right" to vote in a clean, fair and balanced "college of Cardinals".

    The Church preaches and teaches us how it is good to be "fair, righteous and teaches not to oppress the poors. The college of Cardinals is just narrating the oppisite of the credo of the catholic church. Lets hope that finally something is done about this.

    March 16, 2013 at 10:56 am | Reply
  19. RLTJ's

    I assume the Bishops are familiar with the characters of each candidate for Pope. Majority of them is in the new Pope, his leanings.

    March 16, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Reply
  20. astor

    as a non catholic and after 2 millennial of existence of the papal system i am sure i am not in a position to say an opinion but that has never stopped me before

    is it necessary for the resignation or death of a pontiff to select a pope. there should be a successor wel before the end of one term. Vatican is not a democracy that it can afford an interregnum and anyway even some democracies have elections before the end of term of a leader,, eg USA

    what was the original system of selection in the early original catholocism. was there a conclave after St Peter?

    March 16, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Reply
  21. Newman

    God rules the world not human.

    March 17, 2013 at 2:37 am | Reply
  22. Gerry

    With the new pope coming from Argentina, there should be renewed interest in the politics of the Vatican during the 1982 Falklands War.

    The first ever papal visit to Britain, which had been arranged well in advance, took place in the midst of the Falklands War between Britain and Catholic Argentina. The Vatican was compelled by political necessity to follow the British visit with a hastily arranged papal visit to Argentina, otherwise it risked undermining its Latin American base.

    The cooperation of the military junta that ruled Argentina from 1976 to 1983 was needed for the latter visit. Suggestions that the Pope cold shouldered the junta during the visit do not match the facts. Two particular photos that appeared in the Catholic press at the time are of particular interest in this regard.

    These photos are to be found in an article about this fascinating chapter in papal history that reveals a great deal about the Vatican’s modus operandi in modern times —

    March 18, 2013 at 3:13 am | Reply

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