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Iran's new president: Yes, the Holocaust happened
Editor's note: This is an excerpt from Christiane Amanpour's full interview with President Hassan Rouhani, which will air at 2 p.m. ET Wednesday on CNN International.
By Josh Levs and Mick Krever, CNN
Iran's new president has acknowledged the Holocaust, furthering the stark contrast between himself and his predecessor.
"Any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime the Nazis committed towards the Jews as well as non-Jews, was reprehensible and condemnable," President Hassan Rouhani said in an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour.
"Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews we condemn. The taking of human life is contemptible. It makes no difference whether that life is a Jewish life, Christian or Muslim."
He followed with an apparent reference to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, saying it's not acceptable to "usurp the land of another group and occupy it." He called for "an even-handed discussion."
Rouhani also emphasized that he is "not a historian."
The Anti-Defamation League responded quickly.
"It is about time an Iranian leader acknowledged the Holocaust as a tragic fact of history," ADL National Director Abraham Foxman said in a written statement.
"But in practically the same breath President Rouhani engaged in the more subtle form of Holocaust revisionism, minimizing it by accusing the Jewish survivors of taking vengeance on the Palestinians in fulfilling their 2,000-year-old dream of returning to their homeland, Israel. This was a gratuitous swipe at the survivors.
"There is no moral equivalency between the slaughter of 6 million Jews and millions of other innocent men, women and children in the Nazi gas chambers and the plight of the Palestinian people living in the West Bank and Gaza. The Iranians, apparently, are willing to come only so far."
Days earlier, in an interview with NBC, Rouhani declined to say whether the Holocaust happened.
The country's previous president, the firebrand Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, infamously denied the Holocaust, calling it a "myth."
Rouhani, widely considered more moderate, has struck a positive tone and reached out to the West to improve relations, particularly with the United States.
"I would like to say to American people: I bring peace and friendship from Iranians to Americans," he said in English, marking the first time he's spoken the language in a TV interview since becoming president. For the rest of the interview Rouhani spoke Farsi.
In many ways, Rouhani is the "it" man of this week's U.N. General Assembly, as Western leaders look to gauge whether his diplomatic overtures will translate into concrete policy changes.
There was widespread speculation that he and U.S. President Barack Obama might meet face-to-face.
"There were some talks about" a possible meeting, Rouhani told Amanpour through a translator. "And preparation for the work was done a bit as well."
But no such meeting happened.
Two senior U.S. administration officials told CNN Tuesday that the encounter was called off because it was considered "too complicated" for Iran back home.
"I believe we didn't have sufficient time to really coordinate the meeting to the full extent that we needed to," Rouhani told CNN.
Still, the two men recently exchanged letters, and Rouhani said the ice is "already beginning to break because the environment is changing and that has come about as a result of the will of the people of Iran to create a new era of relations between the people of Iran and the rest of the world."
There is sufficient time to coordinate a meeting, he said.
Rouhani said he has full permission from Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to negotiate with the West.
"I think that the president of Iran has the authority whenever the national interest of the country is involved," Rouhani told Amanpour. "The supreme leader of Iran has said that should negotiations be necessary for the national interest of the country, he is in fact not opposed to it."
"Now, if an opportunity was created today, had arisen today," the Iranian president said, "and the prep work for that had been done, most probably the talks would have haven taken place, primarily focused on the nuclear issue or the developments on the Middle East. Therefore the supreme leader, I can tell you, has given permission for my government to freely negotiate on these issues."
UPDATE: This article has been updated with reaction from the Anti-Defamation League
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Getting fed up to the back teeth with this LIE about ' Palestinian lands'
The Pals don't own ANY Land. They never have
The land was owned by Jordan but they lost it when they attacked Israel is 1967
Israel own it LEGALLY under international law
Hague in Britain, Obama, this Persian etc can claim its PALESTAN Arab Muslim lands
ITS NOT,
I'm glad the holocaust happened. It put Jews in their place.
You are probably one of the biggest idiots that has ever lived, moron.
Jews were already in their place in Germany when the Holocaust happened.
A comment like yours and no name to go along with it, shows how much of a coward you are
You are one sick individual. No one deserves what happened to the Jews and others by the Nazi's during WWII.
Sort of like clild predator laws put you in yours.
When you die and your soul is freed forever and lives forever and you realize you are isolated forever (hell) it will be because of comments like you just posted. I grieve for you.
I'M A ARAB AND I THINK THE HOLOCAST WAS HORRIBLE .. ARAB AND JEWS NEED TO START TREATING EACH OTHER LIKE HUMAN, AFTER ALL YOU COME FROM THE SAME BACKGROUND THE EXTREMISTS ARE THE PROBLEM ON BOTH SIDES.... TIME TO CHANGE !
Oy vey all this anti Semitic behavior is disturbing.
Check your bloodline. Somewhere along the way, one of your grannies got tapped by a Heb.
You are a bigoted troll
I hope someone puts you in your place or should I say grave real soon, your not worth the air we breath after a stupid comment like that.
You are an idiot.
I guarantee that this guy is a racist Tea Party Republican obsessed with keeping America white and Christian.
IP address logged, watch list updated.
you really really REALLY need to read Genesis 12.
Sieg Heil Adolf
To: Don
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I guarantee you are an idiot.
@ everyone
you must be a moron.
And you are an a ss hole.
To: Current
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Actually, from the time of Abraham.
Don, you and 'Everyone' are competing for the biggest idiots of the year.
Troll Level: Expert.
Your place in hell is being prepared as we speak. I bet you'd like to be Hitler's neighbor in there...
Come on guys, first rule of the internet. Don't feed the trolls.
I'm gonna call this one out and say TROLL. As a general rule when you guys see a comment like the one that Everyone has posted it would be wise to ignore and not be troll food. We all know that if someone thinks the holocaust did not happen they either live under a rock or are nuts. So do us all a favor, ignore him and, again. PLEASE! DONT BE TROLL FOOD
I will say a prayer for you, that you should ask forgiveness from the Almighty for that comment. Imagine if it had been your people or loved ones.
Do you like the way your Mother tastes ???
The Holocaust was the best thing that ever happened? I'm Jewish and I hope you die today.
Would it be good then if the holocaust were recreated to destroy as many Muslims as possible? Such a thing is evil in any civilized religion.
and im glad little 16 year olds get on CNN and post immature comments about history they most likely dont have the slightest clue about
When they come for you, the rest of us will conveniently forget to speak up on your behalf.
If you possted your comment because you believe what you say, then you are woefully misinformed about history and you should educate yourself before posting again.
If you posted your comment merely to get a reaction, you are an unbelievalbe idiot and should sit in a quite place and think long and hard about why you felt compelled to post such a comment.
Idiot. Go back into the hole you crawled out of.
Go to hell.
Last I checked Hitler was dead, the Nazis lost the war and the Jews are flourishing. You sound like a loser and you picked a loser.
You will pay for what you said...trust me you will. You may laugh and be like yeah whatever but I put a curse on you and soon you will wish you never said that. May be 1 week or 1 year but misfortune is coming your way
You are one sick individual! You shouldn't be allowed to live on this planet!!
If they had a lot of people like you in Germany through the 1930's, there wouldn't have been a holocaust.
Well, at least not to the Jews.
I have a feeling somebody is going to trace you and find out who you really are. I don't think you will be able to erase your fingerprints form your post fast enough. If you are so ignorant of history and humanity, you should keep your thoughts to yourself and whatever clan you belong to.
How does nobody get this comment? "...put Jews in their place." As in Israel.....
Imagine all the cures to diseases that were not discovered because "Jews were put in their place" 70 years ago. Imagine all the literary classics that were never written because "Jews were put in their place". Imagine all the wonderful movies never produced starring the actors who were never born because "Jews were put in their place".
One day "Everyone", you or a loved one will be facing death and you will plead to a Jew and to the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to save their life. The Jew may be your Dr. or Jesus Christ Himself (you do know he was a Jew?). But if it is a Dr. and the life is spared be thankful that the Jewish Dr.'s great-grandparents weren't put in their place. .
The catch 22 to freedom of speech right here. You get little internet losers like this guy who spew ignorance but would never say it to somebody's face (because he would get crushed....quickly). Go back to playing World of Warcraft buddy.
to Mr. Everyone: Jews weren't the only ones to suffer German persecution. Gays, Christians and political malcontents, such as yourself, were also imprisoned and gassed. Be careful whose life you claim to be cheap – yours may be top of the list.
and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Does it somehow make you feel significant to drop ignorant, childish comments into an otherwise intelligent dialogue? Let me put your tiny thoughts to rest – you are still insignificant.
Were you born that stupid or did it take time to practice being that stupid? Also did you parents have any children that mentally survived? I would to think your family is pinning the continuation of the blood line on you.
One of you posted: "Last I checked Hitler was dead, the Nazis lost the war and the Jews are flourishing ..."
SEP-17-2013 (Reuters) – The number of U.S. residents living in poverty edged up to 46.5 million last year, the latest sign that an economic recovery marked by a stock market boom has not trickled down to ordinary Americans.
Not the brightest bulbs in the pack.
It appears everyone has risen to the bait.
Just flag the comment and leave it alone.
I agree. How long do they intend to play the Holocaust card? The blacks don't talk about slavery as much as these Jews keep complaining about their Holocaust!
That view is simply barbaric, immoral, and disgusting. Go and crawl back into the Revisionist stink-hole you crawled out of !
I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Now your opinions are not worth listening to. Have some respect, will you?
That's pretty low, mister. Post that comment with your photo and contact information, coward.
Are you sure? The holocaust is what put the white supremacist Rothschild government into power in Israel. Evil always begets evil.
You're sick...seek help.
You know what's worse than a troll? People who take what trolls say seriously and get offended by it even though they know it's a troll.
You are all playing this creep's game.
Hassad rouhani said excellente
Maybe next time YOUR species will be murdered by some sinister group. What if white supremacists (yes, they still exist as long as the KKK exists) killed all the blacks. What if Fundamental Protestants killed all the Catholics? I like his agreement that the Holocaust existed.
However, we STILL have a holocaust. It is happening every day right here in the USA. It is happening right now all over the world. It's called abortion and it destroys 4000 unborn human beings EVERY SINGLE DAY. China has a one child policy-a second or third child is aborted. India aborts females JUST BECAUSE they are females.
History will repeat itself if we let it.
Just curious, everyone....would you make that comment publicly, to all of us in person? Or as a post without the protection of anonymity? If not, consider yourself a coward. Nothing less.
And how would you feel if your family were tortured and killed and then along comes unempathic person who says, "I'm glad it happened, it put this guy's family in their place"?
I do not think you are even able to understand the question so ill you are.
Even for a troll post, what you said is disgusting and you should be ashamed.
Shame on you. I have many family members who i never met because of the atrocities commited by the nazis.
Why has this post even been allowed to stay. Where are the moderators when you really need them? You're comment is unbelievably arrogant, rude, careless....and just plain STUPID. How would you feel if your entire family was dragged out into the street, separated by gender, carted away and and turned into slaves, then gassed and burned, many alive still. You are a fool, regardless of how you feel about their faith.
Your comment makes no sense at all. Maybe you don't like Natanjahu and his Zionists friends, that's okay. I know that there are many Jew/Israelis who don't agree with the Israeli government also. You need to be more careful with your stupid comments. You can't put every Jew in the same basket, only people with no brains do that. Personally, I think that Republicans are dinosaurs with frozen brains, that doesn't mean that all Americans are like the Rep. I know the Democrats are not great and Obama kills people with drones, however, I know that many Americans are fed up with their government also. Are you going to blame all Americans because Obama lies a lot? Of course not. I think you got it.
Awesome Awesome troll... you didn't pull in a marlin or a shark, you pulled in a blue whale!
Are you sick to post something like this?!?!?! You should be ashamed. No killing of innocents should ever happen. It is a tragedy beyond reproach.
You are one SICK son of a .....
Glad the holocaust happened? You are a disgusting and VERY sick creature.
successful troll is successful.
By your comments I now know that it really is true. It is just impossible for us to fix stupid without a much larger hammer.
Your bridge called, they want their troll back.
Luckily, you are already in your place: Lonely, sad and ignorant. And you put yourself there. Peace.
For the life of me I cannot comprehend why people respond to obvious trolls like this.
Hitler and the Nazis were responsible for the direct and indirect deaths of 90 million (90,000,000) people. Hitler and the Nazis plan was to enslave the entire world for Germany. also to eliminate all non-arayans and semites, of which the Arabs are also part of. This is historical fact. Are you a Nazi?
We've been trolled, people.
I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU,AND IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY, I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM TO
There is a reason for the word i*iot in the dictionary.......You = that definition
"The yellow badge (or yellow patch)"
was first introduced in ISLAMIC countries
to segregate jews,copts,hindus,Assyrians,Berber from the invading ISLAMIC population long before the NAZIS.
60% of the jews in israel ("mizrahi jews")are refugees from ISLAMIC countries.
google:
"yellow badge"
"Hitler&The Mufti Of Jerusalem"
"islamic unit of the Waffen-SS"
"Operation ATLAS"
"Hurva Synagogue"
"Jewish exodus from Arab lands"
"Hebron pogrom 1517"
"plunder of Safed 1834"
"Farhud"
"Dhimmi"
"tiberias massacre"
"Antisemitism in Turkey"
"1945 Tripoli pogrom"
"granada massacre 1066"
"Damascus affair"
"1934 Thrace Pogroms"
"Shiraz blood libel 1910"
"Aleppo pogroms 1853,1875,1947"
"Jaffa riots 1921"
"Allahdad incident"
"1929 Hebron massacre"
"Conversion of non-Muslim places of worship into mosques"
like in nazi germany selling your house to a jew is still punishable by death by the P.A
jews "old yishuv" were ethnically cleansed from gaza,hebron,Judea&Samaria, leaving behind their homes,shops E.T.C...(their grave stones desecrated, used as pavements and latrines)in many cases the new muslim occupiers didn't even bother to erase the david star marks engraved by the former jewish owners on the stone gates and they are still visible today to the naked eye.
youtube>> "92 years old arab woman gloats about hebron massacre"
Okay, so we've established that you're an idiot.
Your butthurt is showing. ^_^
Well, we've pretty much agree that you're an idiot. I hope you never breed.
If it weren't for Jews, there would never have been a Jesus.
Give me ur address Nazi boy and I will put u in place
Seriously, you've got to be kidding me.
- teodor.kornjacic@gmail.com
The event in question was perpetrated by the Hebrews killing their own weak and sick.
100s of thousands jews were in Hitler's army helping him creating israhell.
They have no place...
May Hashem give you what you deserve ! Amen! Amen! Amen!
If you really believe that and are not a coward, please say that to me in person.
Dude your a coward and a horrible person to think that is right to say😡
Said who, you? So a bunch of lunatics from Britain decided to give a land they don't own to some people from europe who never set foot in it, you call that legal and under international law? What law, owned by who, and who authorized it?
Not lunatics, just Jew-bought.
Ah the Brits... making gin-soaked bad decisions since the 1600's.
Churchill was a sot until the very end.
The Jews paid his debts, and they owned him thenceforth.
You are an idiot. The land "Israel" belonged to Jewish people from the time of Moses.
When the land next to you is used to send rockets into your country.....occupying might only appear to be the only option. If no rockets were being fired then I would agree with you.
How is that different than the formation of nearly every country in the Middle East? We fought wars, we drew borders. All of those countries are recognized under international law. Or should we return it all to the Ottoman Empire? Alexander the Great? Rome? Who "owns" the land?
"current", land claims based on fairy tales are not valid
WEST BANK AND GAZA TO PALASTINE .......OTHERWISE ONE STATE FOR ALL JEWS AND ARABS .... END OF STORY???? THE CRAZY EXTREMISTS ARE CAUSING SO MUCH BLOOD TO BE SPILLED ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Are you claiming the Jews never set foot in Israel?
Israel belongs to Jewish people. It's a fact.
Eddie...my ancestors had both feet in that land long before any "Palestinian....you are such a jackwagon.
When you consider that the US was developed in several different land grabs and one purchase from a third party, it's kind of hard to look down upon others.
KInda like the the Americans being given their land grants from the Spanish, English and French in the 16th and 17th centuries.
Do you think the American Indians handed us this land? All land is taken by force. Face it – humans are war mongers.
History lesson for you: Yes, They have been there since Moses. I believe that gives them some pretty legit property rights. They would have NO problem sharing the land with their Palestinian brothers but, the PLO don't make very good neighbors as they have demonstrated, time after time, a penchant for not getting along well with others.
US stolen land from Mexico, in the made-up "Mexican/American war", even Lincoln wrote about it
'current ......You are an idiot. The land "Israel" belonged to Jewish people from the time of Moses.'
which they took from someone else, and which they lost to other people. Its a ridiculous claim to try to say that it was jewish from moses so that is the only time period that counts when making a claim of ownership.
Right on ... Not that I'm one anybody's side here – but – the British and Americans in their infinite wisdom decided that taking land from the indiginous population and giving it away to their sworn ememies seemed like a good idea. Because we felt sorry for the those poor Jews who were exterminated in Europe we had to give them a homeland and country of there own despite the fact that it made every Arab's blood boil ... the real question is if they knew then what we know now – would they still have thought it was a good idea ? Like it or not the fact remains that Isreal's existence is at the very heart of all of the conflict and strife in the Middle East and the West is solely responsible for this – and people wonder why they want to kill us all.
Eddie: Thank God for the British way. It could have done by the American way. The trouble is there wouldn't be a country left to settle in.
Well said ! they think if they repeat their lie again and again people will believe them
I would like to give your house which I don't own to a native indian family that owns the united states. You might want to evacuate today.
Well, we asked to buy it from them and they said "we dont own the land". They kind of screwed themselves...
People forget history when it is inconvenient for them. America would belong to Native Americans and Mexico. Europe would be completely different, as would the rest of the world map. Using history to justify occupying territory, or denying someone else the right to independence is no longer acceptable.
That's a nice fiction that will make you feel better about living in the US, but that's not what happened. We have broken just about every treaty we signed with native Americans. We have no valid legal claim to the majority of US lands.
Your argument is lame. No one commenting here has anymore right to their land then the Palestinians and Israel. Israel has tried, time and again, to share the land but, the Palestinians want them in the ocean.
Yeah it isn't your land either. The land belongs to all of ya all. Hell don't you people read history. Muslims, Jews, and Christians have lived in that area for centuries and all of you call Jerusalem a holy city.
Their occupation and rule lasted for less than 1000 of their 5000 yr history. They left the place due to drought, begging egypt for a place to live, then went back and killed the people who had moved in. Innocent and blessed bunch, indeed. Blessed with a drought and enslavement in egypt, then murdering to reclaim the place which they murdered in order to obtain in the very beginning. Yes, absolutely, an innocent and blessed bunch. So marvelous and ingenious in fact that rather than invent cures for diseases and all the rest of modern science 5000 yrs ago, they waited until 2000 years after Jesus. Because, apparently, they were blessed from day one.
Legal under what international law? The land is considered illegally occupied by the United Nations and International organizations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories
Really? You use Wikepedia as a source? Genius!
Please, Everyoneelse, instead of insulting, why don't you point to the legal law that you speak of.... wikipedia or not. Please.
Apparently, like the previous president of Iran you think history, unless it's your version of it. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/4maps.jpg Politics took Palestine from the map on the right to the one on the left. Your picture iof things is similar to the one that says Native Americans didn't own anything. Colonialism is still colonialism no matter who spreads it. What to do with the Jews, because no one wanted them because of anti-semitism, ended up displacing other people to find them a place to call their own. It continues today, and eventually will result in the whole world killing themselves over it.
"you think history is a myth"
And if the Palestinians had not attacked Israel immediately after the UN created it, they might be living in peace today. But no, they had to have it all, so now they have less.
The first image in your transition is the British Mandate for Palestine – which was not ruled by, nor even the least bit tolerated by, the Palestinian Arabs. Your image implies that the current "Palestinians" owned that land in 1947 but nothing could be further from the truth. The area was owned by neither Palestenians nor Jews in the years leading up to 1947.
Bahahahahha..... Did you just say the Israeli Legaly own the land they are occupying??? Please give me some of what you are smoking.
Yep, they have more legal right to the land then America has to its lands. They actually have a UN Deed. Not too many countries have one of those. The Jews took that bit of wasteland and turned it into an Oasis. That's when the trouble started.
Actually, the original two state solution, the vote in the United Nations to partion the British Mandate of Palestine into two lands those for Palestinian Arabs and those for Palestinian Jews, Gave the West Bank, Gaza, and some other territories to the Arabs. During Israel's war for independence Jordan occupied the West Bank and eventually incorporated it into its territory. Israel did take the West Bank from Jordan in the '67 war, but no one but Israel has recognized that as a legitimate annexation of the territory.
Actually, that whole area was known as Palestine until Israel took most of it by force in 1948-49. Until then, there was no Israel, so read your history book first, then run your mouth later.
DEATH TO PALESTINE
While it is true that the current state of Israel did not exist until this century, that region was called Israel for millennia before there was a Unite Nations.
The Jews occupied the region centuries before Islam was founded.
If any ethnic group has a historical claim to the area, it's the Jewish people.
Yes, and how "owned" that area known as Palestine? Were they Arabs? No. Were they "Palestinians"? No. Did the Arabs / Palestinians FIGHT the owner of Palestine up to 1947? YEP.
Douglas, You need to read more about that matter. That is not historically accurate. There is a lot more background on that.
Amen
According to Iranian sources, after casting doubt on the dimensions of the Holocaust, Rouhani said that - IF - the Nazis created a crime towards the Jews, he condemns it.
He never condemned anything, he passes the question to "historians", he is a sly fox.
learn how to read. He said it happened and it was reprehensible.
Correct. CNN's translation is wrong. They should be ashamed of themselves.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303796404579097491626493058.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop
Your history is as confused as the past Iranian president. You do realize that you said the Palestinian people don't own Palestine don't you? Well the Israeli people don't own Palestine either. It was handed to them in 1948 and continues to be backed up only because they hide behind the US. There should be two recognized states in the region, Israel and Palestine.
There were two countries. But the Palestinians weren't satisfied with only part, so they attacked first. Now they have no country and no one to blame but themselves.
"There should be" Therein lies your problem.
Yep, the Palestinians blew that deal. And they have blown every deal since. They want it all, they don't want to share.
Yes we all know the Holocaust happened. We hear about it everyday. We see it beaten into the fabric of everyday life. Get over it already. That 70 years ago!
Go to a concentration camp memorial first then see if you say the same thing. "Mourn the dead, warn the living"
Actions speak louder than words. When he starts changing things started by his predecessor, I may start to believe him. Stop the Nuclear and missile agenda. He could also publicly denounce Syria for it crimes against it's people.
Not according to the Geneva convention, the UN security council and Israel's own supreme court. They're occupying the land illegally, given they are a signatory nation of the Geneva convention alone, you cannot appropriate land using military force.
The only ones that think they're right are the Jews.
You are mixing 2 different things. The 4th Geneva Convention/ UN / Courts have said that BUILDING SETTLEMENTS which in effect forced out the current population was not legal.
These say nothing about whether or not the declaration of that land as being part of Israel is valid.
agree!!!!!!!!
Moron. No one is talking about the 20th or 21st centuries here. It is about the fact there WAS no Israel prior to 1947, so how do you think they got the land??? By throwing out all those who were ALREADY THERE. How about some sect comes over here and demands all the state of Colorado because "God" said it "belonged to them" and then all those who live in Colorado get their land confiscated, their passports taken, and they are told basically they can like it or lump it? Geez.
agreed.
Lest we forget the City of DAVID is 3000 years old. Oh yes thats right the usual anti-semites have branded european Jewry as Kahazars. how silly of me. The anti semites call themselves the real "Isrealites" problem is they can't spell nor do they read.
Instead of arguing whethere the Shoah happened (my late dad was a survivor) perhaps we all need to realise that the whole world is at war. yes indeed, and if humanity would have learned their lesson 79 years ago-there would not have been anymore genocide commited. Time to get real people. Lets focus on water instead of oil, and food instead of gold.
We as human beings are ALL related (like it or not) we are well on the way of destroying our species.
Who needs an asteroid, or a flood?
'Lest we forget the City of DAVID is 3000 years old'
Well the city itself is older than that. Dont forget it was already a city before David supposedly conquered it.
I think the fight is over the international laws, and who had the power to make laws at that time, in 1948.
Are you stupid?
I would say you are going too far in calling it a lie. Yes, the Jordanians were in possession of the West Bank before they lost it to Israel in the 1967 war. But the predominant nationality of the people living there is Palestinian. If Woodrow Wilson's principle of national self-determination means anything, there should be a Palestinian state in the West Bank. Israel is in their right occupy the land until they can reach an agreement with the Palestinians that meets their requirements for security, because peace cannot be a unilateral withdrawal. But the land is not owned by Israel. They certainly aren't giving the residents of the West Bank the right to vote in Israeli elections, are they? So the Israelis themselves don't view the West Bank as part of Israel. And most of them would rather be free of the obligation of overseeing the territory.
Israel didn't exist until 1948 and Jordan didn't exist until 1946. Both countries were created by the victors of the Second World War. The Palestinians had occupied that land for centuries. Nobody is saying that there was a Palestinian state recognized under international law. However, I am saying that, to imply that the Palestinians have less of a right to those lands than the Israelis do, is ridiculous.
Agree.
The land that is now Israel has been called many names over the years. Prior to WWI. It was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans sided with Germany. They lost. Much of the Ottoman Empire was split up going to England. England Carved up those lands into Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and Turkey. After WWII Israel was created. Only after the USA in 1948 ( believe) did Israel exist again. The land that is now Israel was not well populated except for the holy sites. Saying that Palestinian lands were a lie is false. In the last few centuries Palestinian was around before Israel. There is a few thousand year gap in Israel's existence.
"Palestine" it was only ever referred to as a region. It has never been a country of its own, and has never had any culture associated with it. The term comes from what the Romans called "Falastin" meaning philistines. The term philistine in its literal translation means "invaders".
I think you mix two things, Palestine did not exist as sovereign state,( actually even Jordan did not until Ottoman collapse) but Palestinians just like Jews had certain rights toward the land upon which they lived. Although I do not support statehood for Palestinians (there are enough Arab states and they should join up with Jordan or perhaps even Israel to be a viable prosperous nation) It is absurd to say their lands were not taken away from them unfairly. Denying that is like denying Holocaust. Much of their land was taken from them by force.
Are you kidding me..?
Hague in Britain? This shows how ignorant you are about what you trying to defend
Tell that to the scores of muslims who were kicked from their homes during the exodus of jews to israel after ww2
You have your facts completely wrong – when Israel was established in 1948 – and the war that resulted – many – many Palestinians lost their homes and land – and not on the West Bank – but in "Israel proper" – so there was a great displacement of many Palestinians – that is an historical fact...... Please make sure you know your history before making statements that are false....
Perfect. Now we can put Iran on the friend's list.
LOL
Why soil yourselves with poop?
HAHA where did you pull that out from? Zionist netanyaho book?🙂 Your knowledge of history is equivalent to a 5 year old retard!!!
Rouhani's not an Arab, dimwit.
Rouhani is very excellente of Iran
The all people of Iran are very happy to have this presidente.
I'm french but I agree
Mr.Rouhani is better than Mr.ahmadinejad
Ahmadinejad said ((Death of Israel)) and he said ((Long Live Palestine))
Sorry but Palestine existed long before Israel did. Starting in about 480 BC it represented the land between the river Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea . Then the allies broke it up and called it Israel in about 1948.
If Jesus had a passport it would have been a Palestinian passport that he held...
There has never been a country called "Palestine". It has always referred to a geographic region, never a people, culture or country.
This is another instance of prejudice and a political agenda blinding the intellect. Since the expulsion of the Jews by the Romans, the land of Palestine belong to people whose descendents are the Palestinians. States such as the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Caliphate, the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the Ottoman Empire, the British Mandate and Jordan were overlords, states that had political control over territory. What the Zionists are doing is progessively stealing private land. This violates basic civilized norms as well as a host of United Nations resolutions. If what the Zionist are doing would become a universal princiiple, there would be war and injustice throught the world with different peoples stealing other peoples land based on realities that ended humdred of years ago or on religion grounds devoid of reason.
True.
You hit the nail on the head – u described the situation exactly.
You know, Israel didn't have any land until the UN gave it to them, so why not the Pals?
Let's give peace a chance... War doesn't do anything but destruction of humanity..
"But in practically the same breath President Rouhani engaged in the more subtle form of Holocaust revisionism, minimizing it by accusing the Jewish survivors of taking vengeance on the Palestinians in fulfilling their 2,000-year-old dream of returning to their homeland, Israel. This was a gratuitous swipe at the survivors'
So you are realizing your 2000 year old DREAM by anihilating Palastinians? Hilarious!
I can't believe it!!!! This guy though more humane , still indicates he doesn't believe there was a holocaust !!! Still , slipping in that , ( although albeit) Jews are not a good race of people.
The Jews have a historical & God given right to the land as it was promised them in the Bible but the Dispora due to their turning their backs on God caused them to lose it on a temporary basis, God does not break His promises. Your are right the land was really part of TransJordan when the British decided that the best thing to do was to give the land to the Jewish people. Of course this caused heartburn with the people who had settled there, the Palestinians. Instead o fthe two peoples working something out we see the end result decades of terror & war. But God's promised was kept, the Isrealites are back in their Promised Land.
You are clueless and your god doesn't exist! The jews have NO RIGHT to Paklestinian lands.
And who wrote the Hebrew Bible? Hebrews! There are many peoples in the world whose mythologies lay claim to certain rights, and places. Maybe the Calvanists who left persecution in England should return and claim territory.
"GOD GIVEN" who the hell is god to give anything to anyone. Apart from the fact that god is a fairy tale character he does not OWN ANYTHING.
I am sick to death of brainless fools bleating about their gods and trying to convince us that their gods should rule our lives.
I am a devout atheist and I have the right to tell your god to take a hike and get out of my face. the Israelies have NO RIGHT to the land of Palestine, it belongs to the Palestinians.
BS!!! You don't even know history. Palestine existed before WW2 and was given to the jews because no other country wanted them back.
Getting fed up of hearing this lie again and again " fulfilling their 2,000-year-old dream of returning to their homeland, Israel."
That was never your land , you just stole it , and you can repeat it as much as you want only few will believe you because the whole world knows it's a palestinian land .
But Israel does not own it legally under international law. The UN refers to it as occupied territory.
They only lived there for 1200 years. Their families lived on those lands for generations. And it is debatable who started the 67 war.
International law does not recognise Israel's continued occupation of lands seized from Jordan, Egypt and Syria. To say that it does is a blatant lie. You can call them Jordanians, Palestinians or Arabs – it doesn't matter. Though I always endeavour to call people by the name they call themselves. It's just good manners. You have no legitimate claim to their land. Get out.
The Zionist logic is they have blank check because of the Holocaust, so they will take the land that is not their's, commit ethnic cleansing and establish the State of Israel.
Why did they not expropriate part of Germany in order to create Israel instead of inflicting atrocities and expelling natives of Palestine.
You have to remember one thing, injustice can go only so far. Sooner or later there is a payback and I would not like to be one of the oppressors when that time comes.
Within a couple of days of the interview, the Iranian leadership distances itself from reconciliation with the west and holocaust denial:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-aides-criticize-rouhani-for-conciliatory-gestures-statements
so much for Persian diplomacy.
Being a Brit I have always admired our neighbours to the north as strong, decent, fair minded and courageous people. Where the hell did you come from.
The Palestinians lived in comparative peace for thousands of years in PALESTINE, until in 1947 someone said to these humble people who wanted nothing more than to continue living as they always have "move over we are going to take your homeland and give a large chunk of it to the Jews who have been displaced from European countries by WWII"
No one ASKED the Palestinians if they minded they just shoved them aside.
Contrary to your delusion the UN had NO RIGHT to do this and it is NOT LEGAL. For many reasons the Jews abandoned their traditional land thousands of years ago, how long should they be able to CLAIM these lands as theirs?
The Palestinians have been thrown on the garbage heap of the world, no one cares but the Palestinians CARE, WOULDN'T YOU
Well, it's a step in the right direction at least. I'll reserve judgement for later.
I don't know if 'admitting' the sky is blue or that 'the holocaust actually, really happened!" is that much of a 'step', but I too will reserve judgement till later...
well to go from denying it ever happened to admitting that it happened, and that it was a travesty...I think IS a step in the right direction...a pretty big step if you are talking about coming to some type of agreement.
I agree. It's a step. It's also important to note that yes, 6 million Jews were slaughtered in Nazi death camps, alongside another 6 million people who were NOT Jewish. To only decry the deaths of the Jews is to forgive them for the other half of their crime. 12 million people were slaughtered. Half of them were Jewish. The other half were a mix of everything else they didn't like. Gypsy, Gay, mentally handicapped, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Soviets, people with dark skin...
ttrust me.. they all died the same.. they all bled red blood.. they all cried real tears.. Jews, Gentiles, Gypsies, and anyone else marched to the gas chamber, or shot in the back, or tortured to death. Jews made up the bulk of the deaths.. that is why it seems to be presented as a "jewish issue".. but we jews do not for the most part forget that others died as well..
Dennis, where have you been?
Nobody wants to know the real truth. The other 6 million were just subhuman.Not worth talking about.
This is a top story? The Iranian president says the holycaust happened?
When the previous one flagrantly denied it happening, yes its highly relevant to know that this man respects a painful history for one of humanity's most artistic, spiritual, and scientific tribes.
BULL....
not that many Jewish scientist or artist to call them scientific or artistic tribe.
he also found the bathroom by himself.. but they didnt report that.
The United States needs to be really careful regarding this new leader. These people are NOT known for their honesty. Buyer beware of what he is selling. You can catch more Americans with honey than you can with vinegar. He should NOT be trusted.
I totally agree with you. I was thinking the same thing.
Sigh...."These" people? Honestly.
How can peace and trust ever be made if eternal cynicism remains?
Best friend is Persian who is Muslim, wife is Israeli. There are more in common than what it seems. The government of Iran is making a good gesture. How could they face the world when the president condemned the development of nuclear weapons? As he mentioned, it is at most a zero sum game.
You need to brush on history a bit my friend....and stop worrying so much about political correctness.....
On point KA, no need to respond to a closet racist such as True Conservative
I agree with you but there always need to be a backup plan in case he is pushing an agenda. Again, trust comes from consistent actions and this guy doesn't have a track record yet. So lets give him a chance to prove himself. At least he is making statements that you would have never heard from the previous leader. That is a start.
Please, he's contrasting himself against the contemptible words of their previous leader. Nothing wrong with that or being sold. If anything he can now be held to his moral word.. Watch Kingdom of Heaven and you'll see Muslims are capable of being virtuous and full of honor even if some of their extreme elements are incapable of as much. We have reaped in the West what we have sowed in the East for millennials.
On the other hand. it would be in our best interests to open a dialog that does not involve bullets. Keep then at arms length, definitely.
Are you really going to comment about "honesty" and compare anyone to the United States. Lets start with the Native Americans and ask them how honest our government is. Please get a history book and then lets talk again.
These people?
WVLady63 said "These people are NOT known for their honesty."
Oh my, the bigotry shows. Pray tell me why they should trust American people who spy on their allies and indulge in industrial espionage pretending it is for national security? I wonder if everyone else should generalize about two-faced American people.
The entire non-American world gets a big chuckle every time an American - after we killed thousands of people because our POTUS, VP, SecOfState, and CIA director lied about WMDs - says 'these people are NOT known for their honesty".
Lied about WMD.
I think not.
WE used on Intellegence Department and saw WMD being transported into Syria.
And guess what, now Syria is using those WMD on the people of that country.
Wow, I guess we lied.
Get a clue. Use your brain.
I find the comments from the politically correct crowd to be unbelievable! Have any of you studied middle eastern history? The Sunnis and the Sheites can't even get along with one another for crying out loud. The only thing they seem to agree on at all is that the infidels need to be destroyed both financially and physically. Wake up people!
You completely typify the thoughts of a racist when you use definitions like "these people". Everyone knows that for the past three decades our diplomatic relations with Iran has been strained. Any movement toward peace is a positive step, and I don't think anyone is ignorant enough to just accept the few words spoken by the new Iranian president as a reason to open the gates and let our guard down. If you had taken the time to listen to President Obama yesterday as he addressed to UN, he said just that. We do live in the greatest Country in the world without a doubt, but you better believe there are people around the world that have spoken the very words you used to describe us. Please think first and choose your words carefully. Isn't it is better to have a friend, rather than an enemy ?
Oh, and the United States is honest/can be trusted ??? I love the US as much as any other citizen but come on, get real ! We have screwed over more people in the world than anyone else. I wouldnt trust us as far as i could throw us !
You are right that he should not be trusted outright. You should know something about him though.. he will accomplish his goals by any means necessary. That cuts both ways.
If the best path is negotiation with the west, and that works, he will do it.
If the only path left is to work with Al Queda or whomever else (actually they hate the Taliban but other than that..), then he has no qualms about doing that either.
He is, above all else, a pragmatist. The Iranians have plenty of reasons not to trust us either. We can go all the way back to operation TP Ajax, which is why it was *very* significant that Obama said we were not seeking regime change in Iran (in short TP Ajax did exactly that). We can look more recently when Iran came to the table directly with our diplomats, in secret, and freely provided intel on the Taliban including maps of where they had significant forces, etc. They asked us how they could assist in getting rid of the Taliban and were very up front about. A couple months later GW listed them as an Axis of Evil. Next meeting they told our diplomat "you basically screwed us back home.. we're done".
so trust needs to be built back up on both sides based both on a history going back 60 years and more recently – and yes, that means they have done plenty of things to make us distrust them as well. *neither* side is completely innocent or has moral superiority.
my conclusion : NK,China and Putin opened a geographically different front, Gaining acces to all middle East kingdom/sheikdoms/sultanates means a significant shift in worlds military Powers. Taiwan and SK are in jeopardy.Putin has
send enough military hardware to staging areas in the ME,Syria is only one of them.All prepositioned to get manned at the right time by NK chinese and Russians.Obama 4 weeks ago pledged publicly "NO US boots on the ground" and so,no qualified operators will be available to man the US military Hardware prepositioned in Kuwait and Saudi/Jordan. USAF Gen.Hayden must prepare a fierce Air fight period about Air domination of the ME Airspace.Whats coming is this,unless Obama wants to surrender unconditionally,let the kings/Sheiks/Sultans down :
A continuation of open warfare in the Korean war,the cold war and the Vietnam war !
We also couldn't trust the Soviet Union for 40 years, but we did pretty well with them, even though they had 50K nukes pointed at us. I think Reagan's "trust, but verify" would work with Iran, too. The question is How far are they willing to go to help us trust them?
Sid
The United States' relationship with the Middle East is like that girl who dates bad boys because "I can change him <3"
Well, if that bad boy had a huge supply of oil.
Well that is certainly promising. But may we still be cautious.
It is indeed a sad day for America when Iran wants peace more than our president does.
We don't know what this guy wants really. This is just the opening round. We'll see if he wants peace or to just gull us.
You obviously weren't living in Iran or anywhere else in the Middle East in 1979 when they took our embassy staff hostage. I was 14 and living in Saudi Arabia, and within days after the hostages were taken, the Saudi kids whom I had played soccer with for over a year suddenly started coming after me with rocks instead of smiles. Peace to them is on their conditions only. Trusting them should be conditional on their behavior, not their rhetoric. It's a positive sign, but until Iran stops funding international terrorism and begins to actively stop it, nothing has changed.
Between this guy being startingly more reasonable that the man before and the new Pope who is being startingly reasonable than the man before, we may have some hope in this world.
well said. +1
Agreed.
I agree. Hope comes to the world in cycles, like everything else. Kim Jong Un should watch carefully these events. A message like "I would like to say to American people: I bring peace and friendship from North-Koreans to Americans," would be a magnificent start!
Not understanding Farsi, I'd like to know if he actually used the word Holocaust©.
From a reading of this article, at least, he doesn't seem to be explicitly endorsing the official story. He's certainly intelligent and un-brainwashed enough to recognize the shaky foundations of the received history of German National Socialism.
And I'm not surprised that this appears on Mrs. Rubin's page.
Welcome to the 20th century, barely, Iran. Of course, anything this guy says can be rescinded at the whim of the next guy.
Well now that he said it actually happened, I guess it must be true then.
Let me be the first gentile to loudly proclaim...'THANK YOU'...
Now, on to the pressing matters of backing off the insane, provocative philanderings of your predecessor....
This guy making sense AND the Pope? What is going on?
NEVER trust an arab. I will admit he sounds a lot more rational than the other guy, buy then you are comparing outright crazy to sane. The palestinians need to get their homeland from other arab states, not Israel. The problem is other arab states intensely dislike them and really don't trust them. Palestinians are at the bottom of the arab world food chain and justly deserve that ranking.
Rouhani's not an Arab, dimwit.
Indeed. Farsi, the language he speaks, is an Indo-European language as well. The Iranians are distantly related to the Celts! But of course he is "a towel-head" and therefore negligible.
The Persians were civilized back centuries before there was a Christian Europe or even a place with highways. The Arabs were tribal and come from the same stock as the Jews, each with its own tribe. Both became nations in the 20th century.
"Never trust an Arab"? You could just as easily say never trust an Israeli, or a Russian, or a whatever. That's a silly generalization.
I agree with the "Trust but Verify" plan of action. Its great that Iran's latest president is sounding so reasonable. I think the US should react with cautious optimism and then let's see where this goes. I do NOT believe that we should be following an Israeli dominated foreign policy in the Middle East. We should treat them like anybody else.
I cant believe that we still live in a world that think and behave like you ed. When you generalize Arabs like that, just shows how one's mind does not function very well. Every race, ethnicity and religious background has its own evil doers. That's called being a human being.
Here everyone is an American, if he or she came here through our laws, and not intending to do harm to the country, or its citizens.
Well, he and Syria's Al-Assad may be blowing smoke, may not be trustworthy, and actions count louder than words, but you gotta' admit, this is a major change. Maybe US Navy warships out there in the Gulf with fingers on the triggers are influencing policy?
Given that our country kept communicating with the Soviet Union even in the darkest hours of conflict, and that Nixon opened China even after a scary cultural revolution, it would seem that a mature nation has to talk to people who seem hostile – and on the scale of Soviet Russia and China, Iran seems very mildly hostile indeed.
I know it happened. I was stationed in west Germany in the 1980's and saw Dachau Concentration Camp with my own eyes.. it still haunts me.... You all have a good day and Thank a Veteran if you see one.
You saw a museum piece. Yeah, that's proof.
You, my good man, are a moron
No one claims that there were gas chambers at Dachau, only at the camps in Poland.
Dachau internees died mainly of disease and hunger. The German culpability there is certainly up for discussion, although similar conditions existed throughout wartime Europe.
Just because they built the thing for the show and deceptive purposes doesn't mean it was used for gassing jews.
Brainwashed slave!
I heard the stories of a survivor reluctant to tell them, so shy she might never have left her house without a strong will to go about her business in America. The tattoo on her arm I only saw by accident. The way she mourned even normal deaths of people in their nineties told me that every surviving relative was precious to her even though she'd lost most of them when they were young, sometimes only children, by the deliberate murder of the Hitler regime. Nobody needed to tell me there was a Holocaust – I saw its effects – nor have I ever visited a museum dedicated to its memory, unless you count the Anne Frank house. No, I got it straight from a survivor. And as a victim of a violent crime myself, I know mine and mine know me.
And not a word about Secretary Kerry signing that UN pact on CNN...Is this not important?
Why does every pro-iran/pro-islam propaganda piece on this site have that Muslim apologists picture at the top of the page?
I'm sure everyone will tread lightly with trusting Iran. If he's being honest he could become a large game changer in the region. Things have to change either for the better or worse. Hopefully this is the start of something better. If we look at the world right now it's not a very nice place.
Listen to what the new pope is saying. He's rocking the Catholic world, which is a good thing.
I wonder if he will stop funding hezbollah since he is all for peace
Hezbollah are heroes.
They've been kicking Al-Qaida butt in Syria, in case you haven't noticed.
Resistance is a human right.
I wonder if Obama will stop funding the Al Qaeda rebels in Syria since he is all about peace.
"... and for my next trick, watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat"
Is MSM mentally challenged? Ahmedinejad said if the Holocaust happened why should the Palestinians be punished for it. He did not call its occurrence a myth. The media is stuck on "If" and not the premise of his argument, why foreign people who had nothing to do with the millions killed should be punished.
Maybe we should investigate how the Zionists let 1000s of Jews die in the Holocaust so they can advance their "statehood" movement.
Actually the Holocaust NEVER happened.
It's all illuminati-jew propaganda, to create the state of Israel after the war.
And before you swear at me like a brainwashed bigot you are, do your own research, the net is vast.
You think what you read in history book is accurate? haha you dumb slaves! They write history as they please.
Not "Illuminati-Jew" prop, just Jew.
Well, Mr Historian, why dont you give us the true history lesson, since you know first hand.
Wait, you were not there so you are relying on another viewpoint. What makes that viewpoint correct?
My grandfather actually served in WW2 and witnessed the holocaust for himself. He was a commanding officer of the unit that shut down one of the chambers used to do the deed.
I had someone who saw with his own eyes what happened and do not need a book to tell me what happened.
Please do tell where you get your history, maybe from a Nazi? Let me guess, i bet you believe that terrorists did fly into the WTC on 9/11.
You my friend are not sane.
"DIDNT fly into WTC" is what I meant to type
Stay brainwashed, sheeple, stay indoctrinated, keep believing the media.
Like sheep to the slaughter. Call me crazy again when you eat your own poo in a fema camp.
The reason he is talking in this tone is that the middle east is under a wave of epic change.... The old hard line, Iron Fist leaders are going to be a thing of the past. Just open your eyes... Social Media and it's access through smart phones is changing the world. Middle eastern childern who are 9 and 10 years old right now, see how the rest of the world lives and they not going to tolerate that kind of control once they are old enough to have a voice.... (The previous poster made a very valid point about the Pope... Religious leader in the world as a whole are losing followers due to unrealistic views that don't fall in line with todays young people)
That's right Iran you better remember the six trillion that died by the hand of the gas chambers, the Jewish people never did anything to deserve the atrocities that were committed during the Holocaust.
6 Trillion?! I guess I must believe you, if I question your figure of 6 trillion then I'd be called a holocaust denier.
six trillion?????
Exaggerate as far as i am concerned 600 is an exaggerated figure let alone 6 trillion.The more you lie the more you are likely to believe the lie.
The land was bought by the Jews from the Arabs in the late 1800's early 1900's. If the French/British would of have honored their bargain with the Arabs for helping them defeat the Ottoman Turks in WW1 we would not be in this mess today.
The Palestinians have been kicked out of every Arab country in the Middle East. They never had a homeland. Why is that no other country is willing to give up some land for the Palestinians?
muslims and liberals are the same kind of terrorists.
Yep, telling you what you want to hear. Nothing but a con game to cover things up and buy more time. We are the fools.
And Iran is sending weapons to Syria because....
How about take some peace for Iranian people, they are killing us for 34 years in every single day. where is human rights for Iranian? This is our last chance to taste freedom. Don't take it away from Iranian. We want freedom. Free of riligion and Islamic laws. Please, please, ... If you don't help people at least don't help them. He is a lier this is a new tactic not strategy. People are you ok when they killed our people in the name of Allah, sure they will come after you and every one of us. Because they think they are the best religion. He is new version of Ahmadi Nejad.
Americans say the iranians cannot be trusted... however in modern History it only shows that Iran has every reason in the worl not to Trust America.... America are the ones who ousted their elected leader and put the Shah in Power just for our own greed for oil.... as a result the shah was ousted by the iranian people, and this Islamic Regime came into power. We sold Iraq weapons to kill millions of iranians, then turned around and sold them some too..... we complain about the hostage crisis... yet all they wanted was for us to return the shah to face trial for the crimes he committed against the people of Iran, we did not give up the shah which in turn made the iranians hold our embassy employees hostage for over a year!! Please read some history people, and you will get a much needed reality check of who is not to trust who based on modern history.
Are you SF from KS? Your writing reminds me of him. He is my friend.
Most of what you said is true. There are just a few things to consider: 1) While the US did allow the Shah entry because of his cancer, we also strongly encouraged him to leave Iran in the first place rather than see what is currently happening in Syria take place there, 2) the take over of the embassy by semi-official militias should have been predicted by the CIA, 3) US Marines should have defended the embassy, they could easily have done so, 4) Reagan negotiated with Iran through back channels to delay the release of the hostages in order to win the presidential election.
Phenomenal. Now if only the American far right could just admit climate change is real and caused by humans, preventable by humans, we might even save the world from ourselves. But they're even more recalcitrant than Iranian clerics, so I won't get my hopes too high.
You mean the American Taliban? Not likely.
Mazltof Iranian President. You joined the rest of mainstream understanding of history. What a victory
Homeboy seems way too reasonable which makes me trust him less than the last Iranian leader.
I hope our country encourages discussion with Rouhani and can engage with Iran. If this guy can show some progress to the Iranians, the mulas there may finally have to take a back seat and we might see increased stability in the middle east.
If his words can translate into deeds then it would be wise to start a dialog. The admission of the holocaust while surprising only means he is not crazy. I hope this is an actual turning point in US-Iran relationship.
Admitting that one of the worst disasters of the 20th century did occur, especially to an age old enemy, is a step in the right direction as far as public relations go. Softening it's hardline stance will allow Iran to eventually return to the world community. No longer a pariah, but now a contributor to the common good.
Of course nothing should be taken at face value and actions, speak louder than words.
I bet Christ liked touching young children.
As to WHO owns WHAT land -
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It is a generally recognized fact of life dating from the earliest times that a given land belongs to he who can successfully defend it from others who would have it - That is NOT exactly pretty, but THAT is the way it IS ! !
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To acquire new lands, one takes what he can from whomever might already be there. . That is NOT stealing, but simply the victor taking his spoils. . It also reflects what the verb, "to possess" means : Possession is an ACTIVE state, NOT a passive one.
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The world maps reflect how this principle has played out over the millenia and the centuries..
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The fact of the matter is that Jesus himself often slept intimately with young boys.
And one time at church, I pleasured myself onto a statue of the Virgin Mary.
And onto a statue of Christ. He got messy.
ur one sick puppy
I do love touching puppies too....
You're kidding.....Jesus was a member of LGBT ?
Aaah the holocaust: the only event in the history of planet Earth that to merely question or have doubts about the official narrative will cause you to get thrown in jail in most of Europe.
Huge breakthroughs. Let's hope America's crazy right wing doesn't blow it by outdoing Iran's religious fundamentalists as they are capable of doing.
Another stall tactic in the endless bunch of stall tactics. Why would anyone bother to talk to the puppet president when he doesn't run the show.
The real problem with Iran has nothing to do with bombs. Iran started the Iranian oil bourse to sell oil in other currencies and attack the demand for US dollars. What makes the American economy strong is the demand for dollars through oil commerce. If countries stop using dollars to buy oil the US will enter in a big inflation. Iran is attacking the currency. Read about the Iranian oil bourse, about petrodollars. There is a paper on the internet called "Why Iran is the next target" . Nothing to do with physical bombs. The real attack is against the commerce of oil.
Launching deadly rockets from one sovereign state into another is equally contemptible.
Until Washington cleans up its act we need to quit talking about trust.
Many people of all faiths, and Countries fought and died fighting Hitler who killed all who werent pure Germans and did not have his beliefs? Hitler himself was half Jew and to deny or act as if we should not have waged war on Germany, is killing the memory of the millions he killed! To hate because of ones simplistic views on other peoples beliefs, is to do as Hitler did years ago. Hate is Hate. Death is Death. As in all religions, who will turn the cheek, who will stop killing, who will live in peace. The times for an eye for an eye is over. Lets respect each other and let our children LIVE A LONG PEACEFUL, LOVING LIFE!
A new form of manipulation to be used on an administration that is so easily manipulated. I don't trust a word this man says and will not until concrete steps are taken to back them up.
I think the last few years should be a warning how lax we are in smart people to lead this country, and I do mean both sides.They act like a bunch of spoiled brats arguing over a birthday cake. They need to worry about this country and where they have sent it instead of the voters, who in most cases are voting for more government handouts, without having the knowledge they are the ones who pay for it.
"I would like to say to American people: I bring peace and friendship from Iranians to Americans,"
Hmmm, ya ever here of Taqiyya? I'll just try and enlighten you all:
"According to Christian ethics lying is a sin; In Islamic jurisprudence and theology, the use of taqiyya against the unbelievers is regarded as a virtue and a religious duty."
The key words in this definition are "RELIGIOUS DUTY"
I rest my case. BEWARE OF ISLAM.
And beware of Judaism and Christianity too. They are all the same garbage.
why are you so pessimist?!?!
Ahmadinejad NEVER denied the Holocaust. What he said was:
"In the name of the Holocaust they have created a myth and regard it to be worthier than God, religion and the prophets."
This language targets the myth of the Holocaust, not the Holocaust itself – i.e., "myth" as "mystique", or what has been done with the Holocaust.
American zionist media: stop manipulating the citizenry to start more wars, hasn't this empire slaughtered enough civilians already?
so they still want Israel off the map, but at least they recognise the holocause, They probably will never show this interview to their citizens though.
Well this is a very good sign, and a huge step forward in being in conjunction with the global community. However, trust isn't won overnight nor is it won with just words. Actions upon your words sets a forever imprint in the eyes of humanity and the very global community in which you live. It is with great honesty and care that follows those actions that will be the convincing element. I hope this continues for Iran, and more importantly, the Iranian people.
I am ashamed that the Iranian President fails to see the reality in Israel. Israel is the safest place to live for a Jew, Muslim or Christian in the entire Middle East. Anyone who denounces its right to exist is basically anti-humanity. There are over 1.5 million Arabs, hundreds of thousands of Christians, and 6 million Jews living peacefully together in Israel. People in Israel don't bomb each other's religious sites. There is no cultural war within the country. The government has been stable since its inception in 1948. Perhaps surrounding countries could learn a thing or two from Israel on how to govern a successful and peaceful society.
agreed
I also agree
Can I get an amen?!...
I consider myself a Zionist. I am emphatic in my support of Israel's right to exist. However, I'm not blind to the injustice visited upon Arabs by Israel in the West Bank, nor should we accept the economic inequities between Jewish and Arab communities in the rest of Israel. The wall must move so that it does not divide Arab residences from their lands. Settlements must stop. None of this will bring peace, but it is still the right thing to do.
It is said that if Arabs lay down their guns there will be peace, but if Israelis lay down their guns there will be no Israel. I believe that to be true. I cannot see how that justifies what Israel does to dehumanize Arabs on the West Bank. Notice, I said nothing of Gaza. Hamas created that mess. No one else.
I lived in israel for 10 years. I went through the War of Attrition and the YK war.
You are correct.
IIf as he says taking a human life is so bad.. how come he;s so willing to distribute weapons, missles and other equipment to terrorist organizations? Are not the Isreali's that die from missile attacks human lives? This guy is trying to play the american people.. just like Putin.... holy cow.. we must looks way stupid to others.. I mean.. they think they can say some nice words and Amercians will just get in line? maybe?
Gee
This guy is turning into a pope!
I prefer Ahmadinajad and Benedict thank you.
Ummmm... Jewish WHAT ? What the hell are they talking about ?
I have never heard of anyone,who said that the holocaust didn,t happen.What they always argued about is where did the 6 million # came from.
That's what I have always questioned.
Just Reported by FOX News – why doesn't CNN have this are they that inept!!! Recent theft of massive amounts of highly sensitive US military equipment from Libya is far worse than previously thought, Fox News learns, with raiders swiping hundreds of weapons that are now in the hands of militia groups aligned with terror organizations and the Muslim Brotherhood.
We should sit down and go through the process of feeling each other out to determine if an agreement can be worked on nukes.Since we have them, and many other countries, how do you ask a country with out them to give up the nukes or the process they are in to get them? If not for the threat of nukes we probably could not count the dead from wars since 1945. I feel that it would clear up how murderous wars are if everyone had them and the way to deliver them. That in a nutshell is why so many nations are hell bent to obtain them. As much as we are afraid of them, they have served the purpose of preventing another Hiroshima . How long do you think it would take the nuts who engineered the shopping mall shooting in Kenya to use them if they had them? This is where the most danger lies now.
I like the language you used in your post. "sit down" and "agreement" implies world leaders should re-start dialogue and work towards peaceful resolution of the issues. Obama should be leading the way....
Obama better step it up in the name of foreign policy. Putin stepped in and provided a non-violent solution of sorts in Syria. Obama had egg on his face. Obama needs to be PRESIDENTIAL. As the leader of the most powerful country in the world, he ain't doing much. Throwing missiles and bombs isn't leadership. Call a freakin summit with the Arab leaders and LEAD the world to a peaceful resolution. I voted for Obama but to me he's a total failure on foreign policy.
Yes – have a dinner at the White House for all the Middle Eastern leaders. When dinner gets served, it should be a plate of sand and a glass of sea water. That's what they'll have to subsist on if they don't clean up their extremist problem.
Jew media blocking comments based on fact, saying "it appears you sent a duplicate comment" when, I did not.
The WBC is calling. They'd like you to join. You seem to share their brand of blind hatred.
So Rouhani must be a "moderate" if he acknowledges the Holocaust happened? Like Putin, Mr. Rouhani will give Obama a wedgie then steal John Kerry's lunch money.
Iranian leaders never denied the Holocaust. But the Libs don't want you to know that.
Hooray! Such a positive change! This man sounds so much more sane than his predecessor!
They most certainly did and I know an anti-semite when I smell one. Get off the blog.
SEMITE:A member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and ARABS.
No one hates all these people.
It seems the term "Anti-Semitic" is just as accurate as the number six million.
Part of the narrative of Israel is that it's populated by Jews who returned from exile over the last three centuries. While that's PART of the story, there is another part to it. When the Ashkenazi Jews began returning, they were welcomed by SephardicJews who had never left. The Jews from Europe were wealthier and lighter skinned than the local Jews and so, they invented a story that ignored their dark skinned cousins and placed themselves at the top of the social order. Stupid racism has covered over the fact that Jews have lived in Israel continuously for well over 3000 years (we could get into a semantics debate about the Babylonian exile and the Sammaratins, so let's keep it safe and say 2600 years). They were barred from living in Jerusalem for many decades by the Romans, but have lived there continuously since the end of the crusades.
Any genocide is horrible and should never happen. Constant...constant...constant talk about The Holocaust is annoying. Do we ever hear the media talk about the Mao Ze-Dong genocide that killed 50M – 80M people. Or, how often do we hear about the millions who are killed in Africa.
I'm not sure political mass murder such as in China is technically genocide since the intent was not to wipe out a specific people, but I guess that's besides the point.
Let's not forget the 10's of millions of native American's that have been killed since 1492. I'm not sure if the inhabitants of the Amazon basin would agree that it has ended yet.
Great points, I agree. It's funny that you mention the Native Americans, in school my daughter is learning about exactly what you mention. Everyday I hear her talk about the great number of Indians that were killed.
They would probably have to pay Israel a royalty......Israel OWNS the term.
A typical example of the sheer idiocy of the current international relations.When something is largely accepted as a fact,does it matter if somebody says it is not ? And what does it really matter to the world of today even if it was not a fact ? Awfully silly games in the name of diplomacy !
CNN gets it wrong again... Ahmadinejad only questioned the extent to which it gets attention in comparison with other atrocities. That's what he referred to as a myth, not the event itself. I suspect that he and the current President both agree with that.
No, he said it was completely fabricated. He also said the US never won a war.
Don't you guys know or learnt that calling people as "this guy or the man before" is disrespectful and tasteless. You call your self commentator's, analysts. There name is this guy "President Hassan Rouhani, previous guy Mohmoud Ahmadinejad.
The sky is blue. Water is wet.
Ahmadinejad will probably end up a history professor at Berkley.
We argue over land, and who owns it , and do not know how we have ours ,nor does it make any difference, as long as you are strong enough to keep it.
The taking of human life is contemptible. It makes no difference whether that life is a Jewish life, Christian or Muslim."
I notice he did not mention the terrorist attacks specifically against the US, Spain, Kenya, etc. He only made reference to historical events, not current events. Apparently it's okay for Muslims to take the life of 'infidels'.
I don't buy his overtures for peace, not until substantial changes are made in Iran. Until then, keep the guard up.
The camels carrying all those photos of the piles of dead bodies finally arrived in Tehran.
But it doesn't justify Israel do the same to others.
How many other killers say "I was abused when I was younger"
You sound just as ignorant as that other poster here
sucks to say, but this guy will be assassinated within the year.
I agree with Eric. This guy might not last too long. Besides that, a country just doesn't turn on a dime. One day the holocaust did not happen, the next day it did. What do they really believe? My guess is the semi-educated Iranians know the truth but can't say much. Hopefully this guy has so much visibility and press coverage that the Iranian bosses won't dare take him out but then the Iranian bosses are about one step up the food chain from the North Koreans. As for now, let's be optimistic.
I wonder if he can be trusted. His supreme leader has approved him to talk to the west. His supreme leader could approve him to say anything at all to get what they want. Their religion controls the politics of the country. In America, it was decided long ago that religion or lack of religion will not rule the government and the government will not rule religion or a lack of religion. Saying what we want to hear could be a stalling technique. But I do not know the man personally.
Wow – an Iranian president who at least appears to be somewhat enlightened and intelligent – what the hell is going on?
"Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews we condemn. The taking of human life is contemptible. It makes no difference whether that life is a Jewish life, Christian or Muslim."
Talk is cheap. Show us by your deeds. If he's a good Muslim, he believes that it's acceptable to lie for the purpose of gaining a strategic advantage by getting his adversary to let down his guard.
I welcome Rouhani's remarks and hope that, over time, the U.S. and Israel can establish friendlier ties with Iran. It's ironic that most all Muslim lead countries with governments that are friendly to the U.S. have majority populations that hate the U.S. while the Iranian government and its people are the exact opposite. Still, I do question exactly what Rouhani said concerning the holocaust. In my mind, he did not acknowledge the Holocaust. What he said was that if there was a crime committed, then he condemns it. If?
leave it to amanpour to leave out the other half of his quote about the holocaust....you know, where he subtly questions the scope of the holocaust...which is in itself, a form of laying doubt and denial....its the same premise Mahmoud abbas used in his phd doctoral thesis....and I quote; "I am not a historian and when it comes to speaking of the dimensions of the Holocaust it is the historians that should reflect," ....
why does amanpour skip this all important detail in the quote? its because she is an Israel hater and an Iranian supporter...
What kind of truth is it that it is so fragile that to merely raise doubts about it is cause for a jail sentence?
Next stop, peace with Iran. It is incredible what a diplomatic president like Obama can make happen. GOP heads are exploding, they wanted an unprovoked war and now they will be dealing with peace.
Just like when President Gorbatchev reached out his hand in peace to President Reagan – YES we should take this opportunity to start a dialog. There will be plenty of time to bomb them later...
Well he got it right anyway...
we should round up all of you stupid fuchs that say the holocaust didnt happen. youre pieces of shxt
Arab leaders made mistakes and so Persian leaders..it is time put the past behind and make piece...
Peace not piece...sorry
Make peace..sorry
so as the story says, the previous iranian said it never happened, this one says it did, what wil the next one say? all the extremist movements believe what the previous one believed and look at the syrian opposition pronouncement yesterday...they want islamic republic and sharia law....psychoc
Oh, the Holocaust happened? And killing people is wrong? Thank you, thank you for clarifying that Mr. Rouhani! I assume you also agree that the sky is blue and the earth orbits the sun? Oh good. We'll just drop those pesky sanctions. Oh, and all those statements about wiping Israel off the map - that would require killing millions of people, wouldn't it? But really, never mind, that's such a minor point. Let's have a few cultural exchanges and perhaps a handshake in the Rose Garden! Kebabs all around!
The headline of this article indicates the new Iranian president concedes the Holocaust happened. Fine, he's acknowledging 70-year-old history. How about making current events by allowing inspectors to verify no production of nuclear arms?
I think Dialogue is great
There are millions of Muslims in this world who are just as peaceful and responsible as millions of Christians and Jews. Good Christians and Jews do not tend to take to the public arena and speak out on behalf of peace and goodwill, just like good Muslims tend not to. While I may be agnostic, what this world needs is good people of all faiths and beliefs to come together in more public arenas, link arms, and publicly declare that we all need to work together peacefully for our common good.
(stands and waits patiently for the outpouring of outrage by good Muslims against the mall attack in Nairobi – a hears nothing but silence...)
i am a muslim
i didnt like the attacks one bit
Adolf Hitler himself acknowledged that the Holocaust happened.
I am quoting from his final testament:
"I have also made it quite plain that, if the nations of Europe are again to be regarded as mere shares to be bought and sold by these international conspirators in money and finance, then that race, Jewry, which is the real criminal of this murderous struggle, will be saddled with the responsibility. I further left no one in doubt that this time not only would millions of children of Europe's Aryan peoples die of hunger, not only would millions of grown men suffer death, and not only hundreds of thousands of women and children be burnt and bombed to death in the towns, without the real criminal having to atone for this guilt, even if by more humane means. "
This it is clear that Hitler ordered the Holocaust and he thought that gassing was a "Human" approach.
In Hitler's warped mind, the Jewish financiers backed England to fight even when it was down and the Jewish Financiers helped the Red army turn the tide against the Wehrmacht.
In any case no bloody fool can deny the Holocaust. Volumes of evidence is enough to build a mountain.
I dont believe him, not for a second. All this guy is doing is saying what we want to hear so we will leave them alone. I hope im wrong, i really do because we dont need more problems with that region but conventional wisdom tells me otherwise.
Rouhani has acknowledged that the earth is not flat. Good! All politicians lie. Look right here in the US at Bush and/or Obama – two of the most recent examples. Just a short history of Iran/US over the past 60 years should reveal to anyone who can read and research that the US and Iran people have been repeatedly deceived by their own governments and agents – BIG TIME! It is not the US and Iran people that benefit from this deception.
The Iranian president at the time of the 9/11/01 attacks offered to help this country in hunting down the Taliban. We turned him down. This Iranian president wants dialog with us. We turn him down. Yet we kow tow to the Saudis who are financing the slaughter in Syria, sponsoring more world terrorism than the Iranians, etc. Pakistan was allowed to have nuclear weapons. Some one please explain to me?
Would it damage the reputation of America if Mr. Obama sat down and had a talk with Mr. Ruhani? I suspect POTUS Obama is a puppet dancing at the end of the strings manipulated by financial and military interests. He is not his own man and hasn't been since swearing in.
and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
In 1989 Auschwitz corrected its monuments and reduced the number of deaths from 4 million to 1.1 million yet the 6 million total never changed.
God I hate to say it but some of these other leaders are making our U.S. leaders look bad. I kind of like this guy.
How difficult is it to make Obama or Bush look bad?
Why is this front page news? BREAKING NEWS: Putin acknowledges world is round! BREAKING NEWS: Merkel admits earth revolves around the sun! TOP STORY!
How long can they keep playing the Holocaust card?
Until every US city has it's own museum.
until the 6 million number is fulfilled.
Next step, the moon landing.
1933 Judea declares war on Germany.
1933 Havaara Agreement (Zionis t federation of Germany and Hitler)
Ha, He will be part of the history too, with all the crime that they are doing against Bahai's in Iran.
I say keep the sanctions on until the Iranian leadership converts to Judaism including Grandpa, figure three more months or so.
"I don't believe Rome sacked Carthage."
"Fire him from his job!!!"
The former president of Iran never said the Holocaust never happened. This was a media twisted lie. He admitted it happened but why so harsh on the palestinians. He said blame Europe and Germany for that. He never said it. For this president to have to publicly say that it did happen is sad. We all know it happened. We know who controls the media and flipped that interview to bash Iran.
Wow. An Iranian leader admitting the Holocaust actually happened.
Next thing you know they might actually admit the earth is round and it circles around the sun...
BS'D
CNN: what a bunch of dupes!
So, the ADL thanks the Iranian leader for acknowledging the Holocaust, then citing a mythical 2,000 year old Jewish pilgrimage states that it outweighs any rights the Palestinian people would have to their own homeland, even though they and for forefathers were on the land for 2,000. Wow. I know this is cold, but that Holocaust thing might have...
Greg: Please tell me the name of a Palestinian President, Prime Minister, King, General, etc. before Arafat. What was the name of the Palestinian currency for the past 2,000 years. How about the name of any legislature or civic body. After 2,000 years there must be something. You can't because the Palestinians ain't.
Typical. Like Americans who want a land deed from Native Americans. "Where's your fence and your border guard? Oh, then we can take it from you." Your position is laughable. "You don't have an elected official, so it's our to steal." How obtuse.
Based on what I read it seems to me that Rouhani stated that if any criminality happened during WWII then he would have opposed that. Passages in the Koran doesn't CONDEMN killing Jews so it evidently doesn't see killing Jews as a criminal act. Rouhani is a man of the cloth so it seems that he would embrace the teachings of the Quran (I'm referring to the book translated by "Yusuf Ali". I like Amanpour but I bet that she didn't bring up those passages.
In any event the world body should continue to put pressure on Iran to eliminate its nuclear program.
All are contemptible, but it seems as though some holocausts are more observed than others. The Ukrainians under the Russians, the Native Americans under the uninvited Euros, the Palestinians under the Israelis, the Afro-Americans during and after slavery in the US and of course the Jews and just about every minority in World War II Germany. Aren't all these things unacceptable in a "civilized" world?
So lets have that discussion about one group taking the land of another group . That's what happened in America and reparations are still being made to the natives. Israel has a big debt to pay . So start paying and get off the welfare from the US tax payers .
Well thank goodness CNN has this reputable leader informing us of the Holocaust. Now if they would just show the same priority to those Biblical end-of-the-world radio broadcasters, CNN might just stop being labeled TMZ in busines suits.
yes it did happen just not to the extent the zionist jews were making it out to be, their numbers were exaggerated to say the least. they made it out to be an all out ethnic cleansing of just jews. they put a plaque at that now reads
"“Let this site remain for eternity as a cry of despair and a warning to humanity. About a million and a half men, women, children and infants, mainly Jews from different countries of Europe were murdered here. The world was silent. — Auschwitz-Birkenau 1940-45.”
it used to say
: “This is the place of martyrdom and death of 4 million victims murdered in the Nazi genocide, 1940-45.”
www. jta. org/1992/06/18/archive/plaques-at-auschwitz-to-be-replaced-efforts-continue-to-preserve-camp#ixzz2fvKzuiJB
from a meer 4 million + victims to 1.4million which included polish, gypsies.........
and to make matters worsae they said THE WORLD WAS SILENT?
silent? i recall a world war that was fought to stop the nazis terror...
do they not sound indignant and self rightous?
This is the result of sin. All this bickering and fighting for what? It's not your fault that you hate, blame that on Adam, but if you continue to hate that's your problem. God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins and set us free. He's not concerned with your past comments, he just wants your heart. FEEL FREE TO STONE ME!
Now, let's see if the Americans will ever admit they had a hand in destroying Iran's democracy in 1953 and propping up a dictatorship?
Last time I checked, plenty of Americans were denying that.
Why does the US always have to have an ENEMY to obsess over? Iran is the "Enemy Of The Week"?
Fear. Because America is fueled by fear.
Because the military industry machinery requires it. First Vietnam was a gold mine for the war mongers , but then it ended and conflict was shifted to Latin America.This was not as profitable ,so Middle East became the battleground; but as thing are beginning to cool down there ,Africa is now the new target .There are millions of poor and innocent people in Africa whose lives will be exchanged for cash.It's a beautiful world out there.
Yes, because of the military-industrial complex; but, invariably, picked by Israel.
You know your position of power is minimal when having to admit the Holocaust happened is all that anyone cares about.
Anyone cares about?
I to some extent understand Iran's scepticism, though don't agree with it.
America came in 1953, just 4 years after Israel was founded, destroyed Iran's democracy, and setup a dictatorship. All the while, most Americans deny it ever happened.
I would be skeptical too, If I was Iranian and lived through the Shah's reign.
Just the fact that a government put people in cattle trains ,shipped them , and locked them in concentration because of their race is a holocaust by itself , even if not a single one of them died in gas chamber.I'd say the holocaust was the world war together with all the people affected by it , not only the Jews.
Meanwhile, Israeli diplomats are mocking the new Iranian President on-line every chance they get.
Instead of constantly provoking conflict, who don't those diplomats give peace a chance?
The reason is that they believe they can win a war with Iran. People don't value peace if they think war benefits them more, and Israel has the second largest tank army in the world (after the US) and a larger air force than France. It is burning a hole in their pocket. They probably could get Iran pretty bloodied, but even the US would exhaust its wealth trying to subdue a nation of 60 million people.
Still doesn't change the need for Israel to become a completely secular state with a clean separation of religion and government. There still is not. I also get uncomfortable with people saying "this event happened..." without having actually been there. Either say what you experienced or give your opinion on where the evidence falls. Don't make proclamations of the past for which you were not a witness. That is more in-line with religion than reason, and as we all know: Iran has enough religion influencing its society and government.
Iran's president admitting to the Holocaust may seem like a small thing–a no brainer–but it's a very good sign. He knows well that you have to go slowly, and this is a good first step.
Has this tiger changed its strips?
It purrs now, but its claws are still too sharp. and it still looks very hungry.
I think it's hilariously ironic that the world just forced Iran to admit that a bunch of European Protestants committed genocide against Jews. Not sure why Iran held out so long on that one.
He didn't use the word "occupation" or "land"!!!! Who added that part to his speech???
This guy talks a great game....I don't trust him as far as I could throw him!
That is only because you are wise and know a liar when you see one
The Iranian President did not say that the holocaust happened, he dodged the question, saying that its best left to historians to decide if it happened or not. This leaves open the possible claim by Iranian historians that it did not happen. While at the same time The Iranian president said "If" it happened then....... And that If he stuck in the sentence was an important 'If" It means its a hypothetical situation, and the holocaust may not have occurred in his opinion, if Iranian Historians or Historians backed by the supreme leader of Iran determine that the holocaust did not occur. His statements were artfully deceptive and meant to hide their true opinion.
You will take note that he always replied in Hypotheticals, "If" "Whatever may have" This is not accepting that the holocaust happened, this is treating the holocaust as something that is undetermined and possibly false claim.
This man is smiling through his hatred, and extending a hand to shake, while gripping a poisoned dagger behind his back that he means to stab us with.
To be honest Mahmoud Ahamidinejad was never a holocaust denier, he merely denied the number of Jews that died, which is actually questionable as the figure 6 million was inflated.
You're an i d i o t
That's all well and good Iran, but you're about 70 years too late in trying to catch up to the rest of the world. We don't need your acknowledgment.
When will Americans start acknowledging they destroyed Iran's democracy in 1953?
The Islamic world is far more than 70 years behind the rest of the world. they are hundreds of years behind, and did not undergo the 18th century civilizing process that occurred else where. It is because their religion has isolated them from the bulk of human thought and knowledge especially in the humanities.
Listening to the new Pope, and this newest Iranian Leader, I feel like I woke up in an alternate Universe.
That's right. The next thing we need now is that Bibi comes along and promises to end his crimes.
The Iranian President should have said
"i'll acknowledge the holocaust the same day America delivers a public apology and official recognizes the role the played in destroying our democracy in 1953"
The other thing I wish these discussions would include: a mention of Russia's role in all this. The 5-7 million number actually comes from contemporaneous newspaper accounts of how many Jews were "at risk" during Russian oppression. The Russians started the killing. The Jews (and Gypsies, for that matter) fled west, only to get similar or worse treatment after having settled in ghettos. Go watch Fiddler on the Roof if you need a refresher. To make things worse, the Russians took control of several of the concentration camps prior to the allies getting there. They may have treated some of those inside just as bad as the Nazis had. Not mentioning Russia's role helps fuel neo-Nazi erroneous sentiment that the 5-7 million number is a myth that began prior to Hitler even coming to power, and that it simply took years for the US and Britain to finally be duped into it... finally using the Nazis as the boogeyman. That's a mischaracterization of the original newspaper stories and the eyewitness accounts, though.
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Guys,
The translation is not correct. He said that Holocaust "happened", and only historians can tell us about the exact size of the crime. Also, he didn't say anything about "Land" or "Occupation"
Good point, Amir, but if you read between the lines, while he admits something happened he doesn't acknowledge what happened – "Whatever criminality they committed against the Jews we condemn." This is a blanket statement which coupled with the statement that he is "not a historian" only further evidences that he does not acknowledge to any degree what happened.
So, you want him to do PHD in HOLOCAUST , visit all holocaust sites , learn all method's employed by Hitler then come and say how jews were killed , with their names . Who was killed when and how ., who was murdered in gas chambers and who in pier and how was shot and killed?
The world has stopped at some thing that occurred decades ago, shouldn't people move on ?
It has proved time and again that humans don't learn form the past . It is really stupid to act victim while committing atrocity and murdering Palestinians while America murders millions in Iraq and Afghanistan .
Hypocrite world !!
Either ban ADL or just ban Holocaust .!! Never talk about it or promote it.
Why do we keep talking about the holocaust as if it was about to happen again? There are other ethnic cleansing situations happening today, one of them in Israel against the palestinians. Why don't we talk about that?
Whether or not Israel should exist, the reason for the never-ending-dialogue about the holocaust is that Israel is certainly in a precarious position, and Iran is a nation that has threatened to help push the Jews of Israel into the sea.
They never threatened that\. Ahmadinejad's words were distorted. Netanyahu is driving Israel into the sea, because he's opposing any meaningful steps to create a separate Palestinian state. And he does it with impunity. There's a video of him online gloating of how he controls American politics towards Israel.
I am liking this new Iranian president. I hope something good comes out of his time in office. Between the West and Israel.
Till America supports Israel in its murders and land stealing , there will never come any good out of the world.
Killing may likely happen like this here: UN Blue helmet under Russian command in Iran,Syria Iraq,incl.chinese and NK .Rouhani now" Holocoast happened" then " ..yes and here happened again" . After the nuclear test blast at 3000 feet over Tel Aviv. Obama failed fataly .
The Iranian government's funded Pro Nazi propaganda website is still operating.
To say the land belongs to jews because they have been there since Moses would cast many lands to other people. Should we remove all people from the U.S. and return it to the Indians. No I have to agree the UN resolution that recreated Israel was a mistake. Had the USSR not been in that region I doubt seriously Israel would have ever developed. Israel was conquered many years before and was non existent for centuries. The land was called Palestine thats a fact and it was england who cut up the land that created many of the countries today. Odd how no one remembers that the jews were once considered terrorist by England.
And while the west is beating drums of Holocaust, they made millions of them suffer by the UN sanctions ?
Murdered millions in Palestine and Iraq and Afghanistan ?
Who is more Hitler than Hitler himself?
The Jewish population was expelled from Palestine in the 2nd Centiry by the Romans. For centuries other people lived there under a succession of states: Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, the Caliphate, the Kingdom of Jeruzalem, the Ottoman Empire, the British Mandate and later, the West BAnk under Jordan. Should it become a huniversal principle that the descendents of people who once lived in a land have the right to take it from the current residents even after nearly 2000 years? Imagine the choas this would bring.
It was a second holocaust by the victims of holocaust , they wiped off villages of palestine burnt crops murdered cattle and killed every one resisting the occupation . !!
It is the second holocaust .
Honestly.. the land belongs to whoever conquered it last. The fight continues until a new conquerer arises. Jews were there, palestinians kicked them out, jews came back, kicked the palestinians out, and now the palestinians are trying to fight their way back in. Does that pretty much sum it up? Why not just glass the place, and then the land grab start all over again.
I understand skepticism and talk is cheap. We still need to give this new President a chance. I believe you still can get more with a carrot than a stick. We need to open up constructive discussions with Iran. Bombing them into the stone age will not solve anything over the long term . Consensus is most Israeli citizens don't want to bomb Iran. Bear in mind also Iran too has Jews who live there peacefully and practice Judaism openly. If the Iranian Gov truly hated Jews then I don't think this would be the case. Iran is not the monster portrayed by the Mainstream Media. FYI they have been reporting Iran is on the verge of acquiring a nuclear weapon for the past 29 years !! Let's give peace a chance folks . This is not a game... lets give peace a chance for G-D's sake !
The AIPAC and Nitinyahoo will never let America give a chance to Iran
Nice sentiments but from nothing but a figurehead. All the power lies with the extremist Ayatollah's who could care less about human life.
Well perhaps there is hope for him after all. This is certainly a step in the right direction.
How does one go about finding a particular comment without going through all 400 of them?
"It is about time an Iranian leader acknowledged the Holocaust as a tragic fact of history," ADL National Director Abraham Foxman said in a written statement.
when a leader of a nation is speaking who the hell is Abrahm Foxman to say what he should have said and what not ?
Why is it even in news what he says? Does he make the AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY FOR WHITE HOUSE? IS HE ELECTED BY THE 300 MILLION AMERICANS?
According to a report by from the Middleeast Media Research Project [MEMRi] the director of its Iran desk, Aylet Ayelet Savyon, stated "Just because Iran has a new president, that hasn't changed their goals...Their agenda hasn't changed, the only thing that has changed is the image they are trying to president to the world."
They are playing the long game. Can't trust them until they ditch their theocratic government.
where iz hitler
That's "White" of him to say that. It must mean Peace in Our Time! Oh, his puppet master won't allow him to shake hands with Obama? This is what our dithering Prez wants us to cheer about? And look what's happening at the UN with Obama's great victory on Assad's chemical weapons. His fine narratives of hope aren't doing too well covering for his ineptness.
This may seem hard to believe, but Iranians and Jews used to have a good relationship before the Ayatollahs took over. Even some senior people in Israel's government were born in Iran, part of the ancient community there. The Persian king Cyrus is praised quite a bit in the Bible.
The slaughter of different types of people in Germany by the order of Hitler! Was the Great TRIBULATION!.....it's the time line of the Hbrew races......specifically JUDAH!......we are now embarking upon a global war called armageddon- megiddo.......we are all responsible for the prophecy coming to pass......prophecy can't bechanged but it can be hindered.....I am not ready for war........HOWEVER.....I have a mental note of the last war in Iran......sadam's army posed to surrender......and when our troops approach......they turned their guns and fired......don't take no wooden nickles Americans.......PROPHECY HAVE PROVED ITSELF!......
It's Israel against the rest of the world. Plain as day. You ready the constant defense in these comment sections because they know they have to defend their unpopular positions. Everyday, they will have to defend what the world believes is wrong. It is them against the rest.
As a liberal the ADL really ticks me off sometimes. God-forbid anything is done incrementally, or even fast, but not fast enough for them. This President has made a GIANT leap for Iran in the international community. The fact that he even acknowledged the Holocaust is remarkable and shows that the Iranian leadership is really starting to respect the will of their people to be part of the International Community and live in a prosperous, peaceful country. But noooooo, the ADL has to *poop* all over this HIGHLY POSITIVE step and focus on a perceived slight. I wish people like those at the ADL would realize that they make the rest of us look just as bad as the Tea Party makes the normal Conservatives look. It is so sad that the fringe from both political parties manage to make the 90% in the middle hate each other. I for one have hope that this man can create the change that Iran's people have been waiting too long for!
It's pathetic and sad that after so many years after World War II that the "defining" memory is the so-called "Holocaust" event. For what it's worth, people should be allowed AND have a right to question and investigate the claims made about the "Holocaust" event for themselves. However, you know, in many countries, this is NOT permitted. While in this country, there is the Holocaust Promotion Lobby and the highly politicized Hollywood industry to disseminate and perpetuate the story of the six million which has had the effect of disabling critical thinking about this issue in this society. To what end? Obviously, to promote "sympathy" for Israel which in turn results in the neverending military and financial support of this country on behalf of the state of Israel at the expense of Israel's enemies. In so many words, anybody who is genuinely interested in questioning about the "Holocaust" will readily find that its indeed a myth and a scam! (Rouhani is wrong, Ahmadinejad is right.)
Look, whether you support Israel or not, the Holocaust happened. Stalin also killed millions, but still, the Holocaust happened. The Allies did firebomb German cities, but still, the Holocaust happened. One thing being true doesn't mean another thing must not be true.
To what end?
To keep the money faucet flowing that takes $3,000,000,000/year out of the wallets of the US tax-payer to give it to Israel.
Anti-Semites galore.
Name calling is NOT an argument. You know, as a starting point you should note the following as to how 6 million Jewish casualties were incurred during World War I : "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!" was published in the October 31, 1919, issue of "The American Hebrew" by Martin Glynn; in it he lamented the poor conditions for European Jews after World War I. Glynn referred to these conditions as a potential "holocaust" and asserted that "six million Jewish men and women are starving across the seas". Check it out yourself...
An Iranian taqiya master doing what he does best: Lying to the filthy infidels, as the koran commands.
A Jew hater interveiwing a fellow Jew hater
Explain?
Several things to look at here...
1. the Trojan Horse...In other words, using deception to further infiltrate the country...as is happening right now.
In other words, we let in just about anyone and everyone from all over the world, including nations that support terrorism...which includes of course Saudi Arabia and Iran, and you would wonder about this Iranian President making these kinds of statements.
We know that the Boston bombers, the Tsarnaevs...were Musliim radicals, trained in their own country by terrorists, came to this nation, given welfare, free education and then to repay the kindness, they MERCILESSLY BOMBED innocent people in Boston, it could have been NY or maybe SF..could have been LA... a child was murdered, numerous people had limbs blown off...From Nidal Hassan who had ties to Islamic terrorists, to the shooter at the Naval base, who had a web site with radical Islamic ties...
Why would you believe this garbage written by someone historically who has sympathy with terrorists, of course I'm referring to Amanpour.
Why Holocaust acceptance or rejection is so much of an issue from a US national security perspective.. AR EWE LOOKING FOR EXCUSES???
1. The Holocaust was real. It was a terrible period in history and there are no excuses for it.
2. The nation of Israel was created in 1948....was it right to take another country and create Israel? I have my doubts. Land exchanges hands over ttime and we can't keep going back to what occurred thousands of years ago. Get over it!
3. The creation of Israel caused most of the disharmony in the mid-east....it should have been placed on German or Italian land (they were the enemy in WWII).
4. Now that Israel has been created the US has to let Israel stand on its own feet. 65 years later and we are still baby-sitting Israel. Let them stand on their own feet!
The USA isn't babysitting Israel we're allowing ourselves (through AIPAC buying congress) to be manipulated by them to keep giving them money and fighting wars that aren't our to fight.
The tail is wagging the dog and truth be know our biggest threat is not Iran but Israel.
You are so right on all points.. Plus I am so concerned that our young men and women has to fight wars for Israel. And all our tax money that is given to Israel just freely while we are borrowing from China and India ourselves...
America needs to step out of the money lending business....let Israel and other countries go directly to China and India. we can use our money here without incurring big debts with other countries so we can lend it to others. This is pure stupidity!
However, it is all polkitical to get the jewish vote.
I think one issue is that many so called "advisers" in the white house are more loyal to Israel than to US. As soon as someone dares to even mention this, they will be labeled anti-Jew, Anti-Holocaust and so on... We finally need to have people in the white house that have exclusively loyalty to USA
Actually this clown didn't admit the Holocaust happened. He said "he is not a historian". Misleading article to take away from the fact that he still doesn't answer the question as to whether the genocide of the Jewish people took place.
clown?? explain.
The world will see easily that US/Israel will also reject the new Iranian proposal.. because goal is not to co-exist but to destroy these people.. So Ahmadinejat was not that wrong after all!!!
I'm all for any discussion that saves even one life from the horror and stupidity that we humans inflict on each other in the name of 'god' or for political reasons. Interesting that he really stopped short of saying "Yeah, of course it happened. There are still people living today who went through it. It's not a myth". Regardless though.... he's offered to come to the table and discuss things. Still, I can't say that I'd trust it so easily. Remember the story about the scorpion and the frog? When the frog didn't want to carry the scorpion across the river the scorpion promised no to sting him because the scorpion would then drown. Half way across the scorpion does sting him. When the frog asked why the scorpion replied "It's my nature".
The land that is now the country of Israel was "owned" by GB, just as they still own the Falkland Islands, and fought to keep it, which most of us should remember. Most British colonies/protectorates were turned over to the indigenous populations (the USA fought our way out before the others, as all of you hopefully learned). We also fought Spain for ownership of Texas. Israel had a very large Jewish population before WWII. More moved there in WWII to escape the Nazis. Considering all the countries who allowed Jews to be killed by the Nazis, it was decided that a Jewish-controlled country be created, and they still fight every day to survive.
"We also fought Spain for ownership of Texas". Thought that it was Mexico not Spain. Maybe I'm wrong.
"Killing is contemptible." Does he mean, for example, the way Iran kills gays?
"Well, OK,....except gays...or jews...or women who don't wear a scarf or some people I haven't thought of just yet. Other than that we're done"
When Rouhani says "I am not a historian to judge the Holocaust"; that is simply another way to deny the genocide of the Jewish people. "He is not a historian"? Any dummy knows the Holocaust took place. It is indisputable that millions of Jews were killed in an attempt to exterminate the Jewish people. By copping out with the "I am not a historian card", Rouhani shows that he is no "moderate". He is awfully close to being a Holocaust denier and sounds just like Ahmadinejad with his parsing of words in not addressing the question. And he is bringing "friendship and peace to the American people". Does that mean that the "death to America", "death to Israel" chants will stop soon at Friday prayers? What utter nonsense. And shame on the people being fooled by the rhetoric of this man who is trying to present a false soft face to this evil, brutal regime.
امیدوارم با برقراری ارتباط بین ایران و آمریکا , تراکتورسازی تو جام جهانی اول بشه
Iran said they are willing to disclose locations of their nuclear enrichment sides and let inspectors in.
1) WHY ISRAEL IS NOT DOING THE SAME?
2) WHY NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO ASK THIS QUESTION?
3) WHY ISRAEL IS NOW LOOKING FOR OTHER REASONS TO MAKE IRAN LOOK EVIL?
IT SEEMS THAT ALL INTERNATIONAL LAWS ARE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW!!!
Because Rouhani Is very N iceman & Lovely
Because Israel is a democracy and is not run by Mullahs running an Islamic theocracy bent on world destruction and domination in the "return of the hidden imam". The issue is not Israel, it is the terrorist regime of the Islamic Republic.
Why don't you tell the peole who Jews are waiting for?
Jews are waiting for return of Mosiach......
....and they blame others lol! Jews are the main thugs
Robert
Rouhani is Very Lovely & Nice
Obama & Zarif Are Friendly
but John Kary is Unfriendly
I think OOBAmast na ba shoma
Teraktoorsazi is best football team in the world
zende bad Ali daie
Zende bad TrakhtorSazi
yashasin Azarbayjan
rouhani mochakerim
OObama mochakerim
Wow! Iran says the Holocaust happened, the Pope says gays are OK, and Pat Robertson likes pot. "Dogs and cats, living together...it's total hysteria!."
Wow ...
what you say ?
shotor & palang living together , Are you Iranian??
It isn't only Jews who are pro-Israel; a lot of political pressure comes from Christian groups who believe these are the end times, and America must support Israel to fulfill bible prophecy. That didn't start with the war on terror, it's been going on since the 1970s, with Hal Lindsey and such.
yes of-course
امیدوارم با برقراری ارتباط بین ایران و آمریکا , تراکتورسازی تو جام جهانی اول بشه
There is one, tiny little Jewish country on the planet. Deal with it. Arabs already living in Israel when it was created (may) still live there, and they are Israeli citizens. As for the lands taken in wars launched by their arab neighbors, that's what happens when you lose. The Palestinian people would have home rule by now if they'd stop attacking Israel. Blowing-up innocent civilians and launching missles is not helping their cause. For those of you who hate Jews, what would you do if your neighbor kept trying to kill you? Now, consider how many living, breathing people are still alive in the palestinian territories. That's patience and tolerance for you. That's the jewish morality. We do not punish or blame others, for the actions of some. But, we will protect ourselves and our loved ones. We learned that lesson the hard way, didn't we? I hope Iran will change. I know many good people from Iran (they like to be called "Persian" – their country was called Persia before overthrown). Jews got along fine in Muslim countries until the Taliban and other sharia groups started taking over. Same goes for Christians. Radical Islamic groups need to be stopped. All radical groups need to stop for there to be peace. Who doesn't want peace, really?
NO , you don't understand , we like you
Speak for yourself
we like to called IRAN
چو ایران نباشد تن من مباد
فردوسی 1000 سال پیش گفته
I wish all religious Zealots could come to the realization that all of us live on the same planet and need go from hate to understanding ! Stop projecting you ignorance on too my existence !
He is completely correct, the allies had no right to take away Palestinian land and give it to the jews after WW2. Saying that they deserve it because they lived there 2000 years ago is stupid, if that is the case then all of the US should be given back to the Native American tribes that lived here before the europeans ever came. The only reason the allies gave Palestine to the jews was because of anti-semitism, no other country wanted them back.
ایول ایوله
روحانی یله
تراکتور اوله
اوباما نره
Jews even got along fine in Germany until the Nazis came along. Many Jews were proud to consider themselves German and part of the great German cultural and scientific tradition. A lot of Jews had fought for Germany in the First World War. Yes, there was a lot of anti-Semitism, but it was the Nazis who whipped it up into a hate and murder campaign, just for the sake of their own political power. Not even for Germany's sake–if Germany hadn't put so much effort into persecuting the Jews, I bet they would have won the war.
Are you kidding me? Jews were never welcome in germany or europe they were shunned from all countries in europe. Nobody wants jews in their countries even to this day. Palestinians got the raw end of the deal by losing their country. I hope they win it back and give the jews the boot like everybody else.
If you want to hate Jews, fine, but they have a long, long, long record of outlasting those who hate them.
There is no anti-semitism , No one HATES jews for being a jew. And arabs too are Semites do people hate them for being semites?
DO people hate jews because they follow Judaism , because they go to shul or they do sabbath? NO
They just dont like jews because of what they are doing to Palestinians . Because they are murdering people and just cant get away from it .
Anti-Semitism is a LIE
Jews were sucking the life blood out of Germany, the same they are doing to America today. Germany responded trying to save their culture and way of life.
Jews were kicked out of europe 109 times, Kicked out of Africa, and now getting kicked out of the middle east. Face it jews nobody wants you around. You're a disgusting currupt people.
What about the 10 million King Leopold murdered in the Congo
Do you think that Palestinians will still be going on and on and on about how they were treated by Jews for the next 70 – 80 years in the way that Jews are always going on and on and on about how they are victims?
The other night I watched Billy Crystal on Dave Letterman and found it to be offensive. I dont think there is anything funny about constant harping on how one is jewish. I am Lutheran and would never think of doing that.....come to think of it, have not seen any Catholic or Protestant comedian do that. What is so special about Israel or Jews that they cannot just be Americans?
Buying time.
If he had just answered the question about the holocaust the first time it was asked i could put a little faith in his gestures of peace. But to not answer just goes to show that Iran still thinks the Holocaust a myth.
Doesn't matter. He's just trying to buy time and the Israelis are not falling for it. September 1980 Iran bombs Iraqi reactor. June 1981 Israel completes destruction of the same reactor. September 2007 Israel destroys Syrian reactor.
Funny how Iran was the first nation in history to bomb a nuclear reactor as a preventive attack to stop the development of a nuclear weapon but now finds itself in the same position as Iraq in the early 80's.
Israel has a history of drawing the line and backing it up. It's only a matter of time as Iran tries to buy more with empty gestures.
This is clearly pandering to public opinion. Being more moderate than a guy who was basically a nut bag would seem like a good thing, but I think the reality is that he is simply trying to gain support from the international community and the American public whilst still having the same hard line views off record. Just a wolf in sheep`s clothing
"There is no moral equivalency between the slaughter of 6 million Jews and millions of other innocent men, women and children in the Nazi gas chambers and the plight of the Palestinian people living in the West Bank and Gaza. The Iranians, apparently, are willing to come only so far."
Really ... so dead Jews count more than dead Palestinians?
well .. now we know why there will never be any resolution
""But in practically the same breath President Rouhani engaged in the more subtle form of Holocaust revisionism, minimizing it by accusing the Jewish survivors of taking vengeance on the Palestinians in fulfilling their 2,000-year-old dream of returning to their homeland, Israel."
But isn't that what Jews did in Israel?
The Holocaust was a travesty of human tyranny while many have yet to realize whom the true tyrants were as well as which other tyrants that a single family funded. This family's influence is what made the travesties under the Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong regimes possible. Over 100 million people were systematically exterminated. Not mention millions more lost in armed conflict and this family still funds genocide to this day. They are the very ones responsible for every major atrocity from since the majority of modern history. Their business revolves around the very concept of money in exchange for the shedding of blood. They know who they are. They own this news network as well as all others. They are also responsible for putting most heads of state in power and for the materialistic basis of our reality because the have us worship a God called money which is a false prophet. They now how to play off our empathy to justify their means. They see humans as pawns and nothing more. They are evil incarnate. The Iranian president hopefully is willing to take a step to towards breaking this trend and hopefully other world leaders will as well along with the rest of humanity. We need to learn to stop killing one another because it only keeps us enslaved by the shackles of these tyrants. We must learn to forgive quickly and learn honestly while being kind to one another no matter what one has done. That's how we can not only fix the world but save our species from an extinction brought on by ourselves.
who cares what happened so long ago, why dont you tell the "JEWS" of today to stop ruining the world. stop killing innocent. stop being the filthiest most disgusting waste of sperm cells on this planet.
allenwoll
"As to WHO owns WHAT land –
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It is a generally recognized fact of life dating from the earliest times that a given land belongs to he who can successfully defend it from others who would have it – That is NOT exactly pretty, but THAT is the way it IS ! !
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To acquire new lands, one takes what he can from whomever might already be there. . That is NOT stealing, but simply the victor taking his spoils. . It also reflects what the verb, "to possess" means : Possession is an ACTIVE state, NOT a passive one.
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The world maps reflect how this principle has played out over the millenia and the centuries."
This comment, as stated by one of your earlier correspondents above, would seem to accurately reflect Nazi principals.
You know something – its time we coin a word for people against Palestinians – or people who deny the 50+ years of the Palestinian plight.. Anti-Humanitarianism maybe? is that good enough. So now; every time someone tries to undermine the suffering of Palestinians – we can call it Anti-Humanitarianism – hows that? .. and to those who say it was not Palestine - why are there millions of people displaced in camps all over the arab world?
If the Holocaust is true, why should the Palestinians be punished?
What is sin oppressed Palestinian people?
why....?!!!!
It is obviously fantastic that we can get some dialogue going about the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Let's hope we can get something constructive out of this.
Go youtube and learn about the Talmud teachings..
it will be very informative specially for American Christians about what happens in their nation ,and why their
government is the way it is.. /qVYN21_THpg
Rouhani is so good. He is turning CNN into his own propaganda machine.
Looks who's talking.
A Jew who has been dragging US into endless wars for his Israel and doesn't want US to make friends with Iran.
As if Holocaust the benchmark for US Iran relationship!!!
All the culture have had their holocaust one wya or the other.
Where is the hoo ha over Blacks, tortured and enslaved by Americans?
Where is the hoo-ha about millions of Native American killed, tortured and looted by the Whitemen ?
How else will the Jews cash in on Holocaust industry ? Hoi voy Jewsih this, Jewish that. Like they are the only persecuted ones in history.
Whats funny is that CNN wont post a news topic about FARRAKHAN being invited by this "new" Iranian president to dinner... two of the most disgusting people who the world would be better without! cnn sucks its run by islamists and people who hate america
Liar, globaltruth.
Rouhani invited Iraninan-American Jews of LA, they were ready but AIPAC stopped them.
As AIPAC wants nothing but complete animosity with Iran
Successful Rouhani trip so far.
However, Netanyahu's foor soldiers are already out preparing for even harder sanctions against Iran.
US Senators Shumer, Lindsey Graham, McCain (ofcourse), Diane Fienstein, Eric Cantor and scores others are barking their heads off.
Plus mid-term elections are near so "Senators" need money and AIPAC will be more than happy to oblige them.
Unless US publlic again pressurizes Senators to move ahead with peace accord as they did aginst strike on Syria, I am not holding my breath.
US Senators are too corrupt and in Israel Lobbies' pockets.
Within a couple of days of the interview, the Iranian leadership distances itself from reconciliation with the west and holocaust denial:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-aides-criticize-rouhani-for-conciliatory-gestures-statements
so much for Persian diplomacy.
Hell with your Holocaust. Who cares!!!!!
Jews have been blackmailing and squeezing money out of HollowHoax industry for a now.
Shut up with your Zonist agenda. This is about Us and Iran NOT Israel. Stay our and let us do our job.
You Israel is being sidelined as we speak. Start crying....
Holocaust is NOT US benchmark.
Actually you are correct. well said.
As if Holocaust is the only thing that would make US decide if we want to have peace with Iran or not. LOL!
Jews are still living in the past! Just bypass Israel Lobby, AIPAC, Israel and let's move ahead.
The deniel is not of holocaust. Mahmoud asked to research the holocuast and find the difference between those orthodox jews that were murdered Vs those zzionists that are in power today. If you do your research you will find out that zzionist jews had a hand in murdering of 6 miillion but the zzionist own media doesn't talk about it. Zzionists are using the sympathy of the 6 million to justify their occupation. still is an OCCUPATION. How can Israel break over 60 UN resolutions and still remain an open bully?
Lets talk about the real holocaust, the 60 million Christians that were murdered by Jews during the Bolshevik Revolution before Germany killed a few hundred thousand Jews. The Jews conveniently want to leave that out of the history books. Tired of hearing this German Holocaust card being played by Jews. They have to have a so called anti defamation organization to hide the truth. The Jew controlled U.S. Senate is always promoting Gun Control and wars. Vote them out of office and America will be better off.
After WWII Jews stole mass amounts of money from the U.S. treasury. With it they bought all of the network TV stations, Production companies in Hollywood, Newspapers etc. to spew their propaganda. The Federal Reserve has nothing to do with the Federal Government but is owned by Jewish bankers, which requires that America turn over it's national income and then turns around and loans Americas money back to it with interest. The biggest Ponzi scheme ever. The Federal reserve law was passed by Jewish congressman on Christmas Eve when everyone else had left for the holidays...SCAM. Vote Jews out of every political office in the U.S. and America will once again attain it's greatness.
I am glad to hear that the new leader of Iran has made what would seem to be an honest effort to begin to repair the realationship between us.
Although I am not a friend of the Iranian regime we should be willing to take Rouhani at his word and pursue this to see if indeed we can come to an agreement that would lessen the enmity between us
i do not care whether the holocaust happened or not, i do not care whether Israelis slaughter Palestinians or not. Who has ever cared about the millions killed in DRC by Rwanda and Uganda? are we less human than the terrorists in the middleeast?
All able Palestinians – everyone in the West Bank and Gaza must organize a day when all Palestinians will walk into Israel at every crossing to demand their rights as Palestinians! No guns no weapons a peaceful non violent crossing by Palestinians into Israel. If the Israeli military shoot them keep going – let the world see what happens! It will be better than having Israelis kill Palestinians day by day. This is the solution to the depopulation of the Palestinian people. Better than waiting for Israelis to kill them and take land as they are doing for decades!
"CNN Fabricates Iranian President's Remarks About Holocaust"
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920703001316
millions of jews died but why did other nations wait so long to act if they wound have acted before just as they doing with syria it wound have been lesser life lost in the holocaust
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