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Hanks holds ‘mirror up to nature’ in “Captain Phillips”

Hanks holds ‘mirror up to nature’ in “Captain Phillips”
October 9th, 2013
03:22 PM ET

True story of piracy on the high seas

The Somali star of "Captain Phillips"

By Mick Krever, CNN

A U.S. raid on al-Qaeda-linked militants; the 20th anniversary of Black Hawk Down; a new film on the true-story pirating of an American shipping vessel – Somalia, the war-ravaged East African nation, finds itself in the news now more than almost any other time in recent memory.

The hijacking of an unarmed American ship by Somali pirates in April 2009, and subsequent commando rescue operation by U.S. Navy Seals, is the subject of “Captain Phillips,” a new movie starring Tom Hanks and first-time Somali actor Barkhad Abdi, and directed by Paul Greengrass.

CNN’s Christiane Amanpour spoke with all three in an interview that aired Wednesday.

“The best non-fiction is a record of human behavior that is always checkered, that is always very complex motivations,” Hanks told Amanpour in New York. “They do not hew to the antagonist/protagonist storyline which is the basis of any kind of dramatic art.”

On its face, the film is indeed about antagonist and protagonist – Somali pirates hold for ransom an American crew and their captain, Richard Phillips, forcing an intervention by the American military.

But reality, as Hanks told Amanpour, is often – and in this case as well – more complicated, as evidenced by the interaction between Captain Phillips and his four Somalis captors.

“In reality, there were laughs; there were jokes,” Hanks said. “There was a type of banter that went by – all at the same time Richard Phillips was convinced that [the] big guy, particularly, was going to shoot him in the head for no reason whatsoever.”

“That is a type of tension that brings out the most flinty, sharp-edged aspect of human nature,” Hanks told Amanpour. “And at the end of the day, I - that's my job. You know, I’ve got to hold the mirror up to nature.”

The filmmakers could hardly have known how relevant that mirror to nature would be when their movie premiered.

Terrorism – and vigilantism, lawlessness – in East and North Africa has come under worldwide attention, most notably with the spectacular attack on a Nairobi, Kenya shopping mall by al-Shabaab, an al-Qaeda subsidiary based in Somalia.

“One of the wonderful central threads of moviemaking is to tell us about the world, tell us where we sit,” Greengrass told Amanpour.

Greengrass sees as a particular success the film’s portrayal of Somali pirates as cogs in a well-organized criminal enterprise, not just independent vigilantes.

“You're talking about international organized crime,” he told Amanpour, “with its roots way away from the coast of Somalia, they lie in Kenya and Nairobi, in Europe and in some cases in the U.S.”

Hanks chimed in.

“There are corporations that have dropped by helicopter millions of dollars in cash,” he said. So “why would they settle for $30,000, where if they played this right they can get a couple of million?”

This hijacking of the Maersk Alabama was a front-page story for days in 2009; far from just retelling the story, Greengrass said, filmmaking can give the viewer a new perspective on the story.

“What a movie can do is put you on the ship,” he said. “If you can create a compelling portrait of the characters at the heart of the drama, and then if you can pack it filled with the details, the detail of what happened is what you can never get from the news, because it's fast-moving.”

A newcomer steals the show

Some of the most compelling characters of “Captain Phillips” are the Somali pirates, who were all but anonymous to the public at the time of the hijacking.

“I knew that we had to cast Somali actors to play these parts, but there’s no obviously Somali acting community in Los Angeles or New York,” Greengrass said. “So we went to Minneapolis, where the main Somali community in the U.S. is.”

Going into casting, the director was nervous about being able to cast actors who could play opposite Hollywood legend Tom Hanks.

When they got to Minneapolis, however, many hundreds of people showed up for casting, and Greengrass discovered that “that community is actually incredibly vibrant, incredibly creative, filled with musicians and actors and writers.”

The star they found was Barkhad Abdi, an immigrant from Somalia who had done no professional acting, who plays the lead pirate, Muse.

Abdi saw the casting call for Somali actors on local television.

When he got the call saying he got the part, he told Amanpour, “I was just at my friend's house, just hanging out.”

He had shot some videos, he said – “music videos and such” – but never in front of the camera.

Now, as a Hollywood star, Abdi all but steals the movie.

In a riveting scene early in the film, Muse, having just boarded the Maersk Alabama, stands opposite Captain Phillips, AK-47 in hand, and points at his eyes.

“Look at me,” he says.

“I'm the captain now,” Muse says, with a steely calm.

It’s a line that, as the climax of trailers running over and over, is almost already a cinema classic.

And as Greengrass told Amanpour, “there’s nobody more dangerous” than a young man with a gun who thinks he has nothing to lose.

“That was the first time we met,” Hanks says of the Somali actors. “Paul [Greengrass] had kept us separate.”

“We wanted to see Tom,” Abdi said. “Paul comes to us, I remember, and said, ‘No one's going to see Tom until the first scene of the film you guys are doing with him.’”

“I didn't get much sleep,” the night before he was to shoot the scene, he told Amanpour. “And when I came the second day, Paul come to me and say you have to own it. You have to take control. … I had no choice but to come to become that character.”

Greengrass put Abdi and his costars through a rigorous training regimen before filming – not only how to hold a weapon, fight, and stand still on a fast-movie boat, but even how to swim.

“Before the auditioning began, there was a lot of people around me even saying that this film will embarrass Somali people,” Abdi told Amanpour. “I did not look at it that way. It was a true story that had been. And I understood why these pirates are doing what they're doing. They are some desperate guys.”

Most of them, he said, are just young men that are being exploited.

Abdi told Amanpour that he still has family in Somalia – some whom he has met and some he hasn’t. He hopes, one day, to be able to visit them.

In the meantime, he has been catapulted from his home in Minneapolis to Hollywood stardom.

“If you can get past the self-consciousness of saying you're an actor and performing, the moviemaking racket is something you can figure out in a morning or an afternoon,” Hanks said.

“The other part of it, though, is a harder aspect, which is maintaining that characterization and being able to make believe in the most artistic sense,” Hanks continued. “These guys have it in their DNA. They were not intimidated by anything. And they were very, very well prepared for this. They had worked for weeks. So they came in pumped.”

So what, Amanpour asked, will Abdi do now?

“For now,” he said, “I want to see if I can act more, see how it goes from there.”


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  1. Naggib

    Iam somali and iam so proud this guy i wann say u did good job both of you guys well done

    October 9, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Reply
  2. Benjamin

    Just went to check out the trailer after reading this. Certainly got my attention, and they're dead on about Mr. Abdi. Definitely going to see this in the theater.

    October 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Reply
  3. The Thinker1958

    with this movie people are going to understand that Somalia has some fine actors. that is the biggest news! not everybody is a pirate.

    October 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm | Reply
  4. Jim

    Tom Hanks for President of the world!

    October 10, 2013 at 1:57 am | Reply
  5. Barrett

    OMG.. like most people I am a serious admirer of Christiane Amanpour.. her courage, intellect and uncompromising investigative journalism has been astounding for years... but this interview was straight out of Access Hollywood... say what? why did she (and CNN) stoop to this? For the whole interview she acted like a salivating doe eyed high school cheerleader who wanted to jump on Hanks and give him a lap dance.. .. maybe she figured that she finally gets to be rewarded for her hard core on site in the the most dangerous parts of the world reporting by finally getting to meet one of her hollywood heartthrobs... she asked zero questions about the many many reports (and ongoing lawsuit filed by the ship's crew) that Captain Philips was not only not a hero but his irresponsible and negligent actions led to the pirating of the ship and thus endangered the lives of his crew and the ship's safety ... by his own admission there was nothing in the least heroic about his behavior... it appears to be America's obsession and hunger for heroes that led to this completely misleading and manipulative movie.. perhaps the tragedy of Blackhawk Down fed the need for American audiences to see Somalis killed and all Americans come home safely and be embraced as heroes... as for Hank's suggestion that part of the movie's specialness is that it "does not hew to the antagonist/protagonist storyline which is the basis of any kind of dramatic art" .. this is unbelievable drivel.. the movie follows, to a letter, the antagonist/protagonist (good versus evil) storyline that has kept audiences lining up for popcorn for almost a century... boring, manipulative, simplistic tripe.. Hanks is a good actor.. he did the four things he was supposed to do ... read the script, accept the script, do the work well and collect his millions... now it is time for him to do the fifth thing expected... go home Tom .....and Amanpour should feel shame for participating and promoting this Hollywood sham... I can still hear her giggling in admiration everytime she asked Hanks a deeply perceptive and "probing" question ...disgraceful and unbecoming for her to act like an Access Hollywood groupie ...

    October 10, 2013 at 3:44 am | Reply
  6. Barrett

    instead of shame she unashamedly and gleefully describes her new friend Tom's movie as "A PHENOMENAL new film – a true story of piracy on the high seas“ .. the interview itself was a "true story of piracy" of Amanpour's journalistic integrity

    October 10, 2013 at 3:53 am | Reply
  7. adam4x4

    I think she's great. So, she had some fun. So what?

    October 13, 2013 at 8:57 am | Reply
    • Barrett

      Well adam I also think she's great .... but you surprise by asking "so what" ... the so what is that being a fawning sycophant does not suit her or investigative journalism or the viewing public who she is supposed to serve ...especially when such behavior promotes a false movie and is used as part of commercial advertising to increase movie profits.. in short adam the "so what" is that it is dishonest and a disservice to the public...why do you find this so acceptable adam... does your admiration for her make it impossible for you to be discerning and incapable of recognizing when you are being manipulated?....sounds like you get as goo ga over celebrity as much as Amanpour did in this so called "interview".

      October 14, 2013 at 12:44 am | Reply
  8. Abdul

    Hey Barrett, I'm guessing that you don't approve of Christiane's puff piece. Well so what. What she does is entertainment. I'm not really sure how asking Tom or the other two about ongoing legal matters that have anything to do with them is good journalism, but I'm sure you'll be able to tell me.

    October 14, 2013 at 1:19 am | Reply
    • Barrett

      I'm sure I could too Abdul... but clearly you are not interested in knowing.... no worries to each his own .....if you are satisfied that journalism, including investigative journalism, are "puff pieces" then go for it.... nonetheless it is not the "legal matters" that are of journalistic importance in this case ... it is the fact that the crew of the cargo ship filed the suit because of their absolute determination that the truth comes out about the Shipping Company and Philipps' reckless and self centered behavior that is of journalistic importance before touting the movie as representing "a true story of piracy on the high seas"..... and btw... you are the first person I've heard refer to investigative journalism as "entertainment" ..... I think most believe that the purpose of investigative journalism is to make us more aware of what is really going on in the world, whether it is honest and who is pulling the strings.. for that purpose the integrity of the investigator/interviewer is critical ... integrity is not important or expected in Entertainment Tonight hosts.. after all,,, they are just trying to entertain with puff.... so I really do hope you enjoy .... Cheers

      October 14, 2013 at 2:31 am | Reply
      • Abdul

        Hey Barrett, I am interested in knowing and so are many but I think that to paint todays Christiane and the USS CNN in which she travels with the investigative journalism brush is a bit disingenuous. She and her producers could do more with the reach and power that they hold, but they shoot for low hanging fruit. Their version of 'hard hitting' is nothing more than PR.

        October 14, 2013 at 2:58 am |
  9. Barrett

    I agree Abdul... Cheers

    October 14, 2013 at 4:16 am | Reply

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