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Stunning new footage of defiance emerges from North Korea

January 15th, 2014
03:35 PM ET

North Korea: "The Impossible State"

By Mick Krever, CNN

A groundbreaking new documentary is using smuggled footage to paint a new and dramatic picture of the Hermit Kingdom, North Korea.

Much of the world sees North Koreans as brainwashed and subservient, bowing down to Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un.

The Frontline documentary “Secret State of North Korea” from the American public broadcaster PBS shows that for many people in North Korea, just the opposite is true.

“We saw lots of examples of people standing up to authority in ways that we hadn’t expected,” Director James Jones told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Wednesday.

One of the most dramatic pieces of footage was of a woman, who has set up a private bus service using a pickup truck.

“This soldier comes and tells her to stop running this private bus service, which is illegal,” Jones said. “And rather than, as you would expect, saying, ‘I’m so sorry,’ and apologizing, she stands up for it – I mean, literally chases him off down the street, smacking him on the back, calling him every name under the sun.”

Victor Cha, who as the former Director of Asian Affairs for the U.S. National Security Council is an expert on North Korea, said that it is often women like her who are starting to open up North Korea.

“I love that; that was one of my favorite parts of the documentary,” he told Amanpour. “The irony is that those markets didn’t grow out of economic reform. They grew out of the failure of the North Korean economy to provide for its people.”

The documentary also shows cracks in the regime’s information barrier.

North Koreans, particularly young ones, are obsessed with American movies and South Korean soap operas, Jones said.

The documentary depicts a complicated and daring system whereby DVDs, laptops, and thumb drives are sneaked into the country across the border with China.

“These DVDs are the kind of must-have items,” Jones said. “Young North Koreans pass them around, and they all wait for the latest episodes.”

“North Korea has survived for so long because it’s so isolated; it has this information barrier,” Jones said. “But because of technology, cracks are starting to appear in this barrier.”

A young woman, who grew up in North Korea but defected to South Korea, says that her exposure to free media was critical.

“The more I’ve listened to the radio, the more I’ve thought, ‘What we’ve learned isn’t true,’ I’ve been fooled. It has made me want to become free.”

It breaks the “spell of the regime’s propaganda,” Jones said.

For the people who smuggle goods into the country – and indeed for those who filmed the footage contained in the documentary – it really is “a matter of life and death,” Jones said.

One smuggler interviewed in the documentary says that he knows he would be executed if caught by the North Korean regime, but feels he has a duty to continue.

So how did Jones get the footage he did?

He told Amanpour that he his team realized “pretty early on” that there was no point in going on a tightly controlled government tour, where contact with “ordinary North Koreans” is very limited.

“We teamed up with a Japanese journalist, Jiro Ishimaru, who has this incredible network of ordinary North Koreans across the country,” Jones said. “They film secretly using hidden cameras, and then smuggle that footage out across the China border where Jiro waits for them.”

No American or Western official has met the young North Korean dictator, Kim Jong Un. One of the few Westerners who has is former NBA star Dennis Rodman.

Just this month, he sang ‘Happy Birthday’ to Kim in bizarre fashion.

There is a school of thought, Jones said, that the more contact with North Korea, the better.

Rodman, he said, “was the one who found out [Kim] had a baby; we had no idea about that. So there is some value to his trip.”

It may be just a small peek inside the secretive regime, just as the acts of defiance portrayed in Jones’ documentary seem ordinary and every day – but the long-term significance may be huge.

“They’re just cracks right now, just small ones,” Cha said. “But like a dam, once you start getting one crack they start to filter out and you start seeing many, many more.”


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  1. rippled

    It's only stunning if you believed the NK society being the RL version of 1984 incarnate. Reality seldom lives up to the demonizations.

    January 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm | Reply
    • david crandall

      It is only stunning if you believe that guard being pushed around is not impersonating an officer.

      January 16, 2014 at 10:56 am | Reply
  2. john

    A bit worrisome if they are basing reality, their dream future, on movies and soap operas.

    January 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm | Reply
  3. Susan

    …so appreciate your commentary !!!!

    January 15, 2014 at 8:12 pm | Reply
  4. Barbara Greenberg

    This is definitely a tragedy and I wouldn't say it was intentional. However it was an accident that could have been prevented. I am so sorry for the girl. I saw how other people feel about this here. http://hyfen.com/topic/65/page#_=_

    January 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm | Reply
  5. Otterknow

    Good job, now this woman is probably headed to a work camp if she isn't already in one. But at least CNN is getting good coverage. Great ethics...

    January 15, 2014 at 9:27 pm | Reply
    • Ninja

      Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing

      January 16, 2014 at 12:02 am | Reply
  6. BIbi

    should you not have covered the faces of some of the people? Like the woman who stood up to the guard! The truth needs to get out...but not at the cost of someones life! If their reputation is so brutal they will track her down!

    January 15, 2014 at 9:43 pm | Reply
  7. Alister

    Who could be more defiant and subservient than some of the US citizens?
    If the US does wish North Koreans any good, then stop bullying it.

    January 15, 2014 at 9:48 pm | Reply
  8. Kim Ying

    CNN, PLEASE AT ONCE RESPOND to the concerns that YOU HAVE ENDANGERED THE LIVES of the people in the videos.

    Much as your readers are curious about N Korea, there is no need for the videos. They don't make a jot of difference to our lives. Unfortunately you can't say the same about those who are exposed (by journalists.... in the comfort and safety of their own countries ) as rebelling against the execution happy regime .

    As CNN regularly informs us, N Korea even has a retribution system which punishes not just the person in question but generations of his or her family .

    Kim Ying

    January 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm | Reply
    • Craig

      Kim

      These videos have been widely shown on PUBLIC TV all over the world....CNN broadcasting them isn't doing any more harm to the people in the videos....

      January 19, 2014 at 9:30 am | Reply
  9. Mangoajy

    Fantastic video. Let us hope that NK goes the same way as the Soviet Union.

    January 15, 2014 at 11:07 pm | Reply
  10. Wow

    Why the heck are you showing that woman's face and the licence of that truck? Do you want her to be killed?

    January 15, 2014 at 11:16 pm | Reply
  11. Ninsu

    How much more unprofessional can you get? Come on, showing that lady's face like that? Haven't you learned with all your experience or are you still stuck with gaining fame without even thinking about ethics?

    January 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | Reply
  12. steve m

    let me be the first to welcome all the Official North Korean visitors commenting on this story.

    January 16, 2014 at 1:05 am | Reply
    • steve m

      this by the way was not a CNN story. the video is PBS Frontline.

      January 16, 2014 at 1:07 am | Reply
  13. fred

    I would hardly call North Korea a `hermit` state....at least you can get a tourist visa to visit.
    Which is more than you can say about Saudi Arabia, who does`nt issue tourist visa`s to anyone!

    January 16, 2014 at 3:18 am | Reply
  14. JohnSmith

    This makes me happy. The young are slowly seeing the world around them. There are cracks in that hermit shell and they're slowly becoming wider with time.

    January 16, 2014 at 3:19 am | Reply
  15. scottca

    They should not have shown her face.
    Both she and her family are in horrible danger now.
    This was terribly irresponsible to do.

    January 16, 2014 at 3:20 am | Reply
  16. crinnnge

    Kim is adorable. Kim is the David for the Goliath USA. USA is wrecking havoc with the world , its economy and of its peoples lives where US soldiers are burning down corpses to eliminate evidence of American involvement. Only Kim can save the world from America

    January 16, 2014 at 3:56 am | Reply
  17. T

    Why would you not blur all of their faces?

    January 16, 2014 at 4:38 am | Reply
  18. balendra

    I would have liked you to at least Blur the Ladies face because now her life is in danger. Looks like it does not matter to you you have got the story

    January 16, 2014 at 4:41 am | Reply
  19. Mmhmm

    LOL because Kim having a baby is valuable information.
    Rodman isn't going to come out with anything any more enlightening than anyone else lied to by them.

    January 16, 2014 at 5:20 am | Reply
  20. Jessica McGwin

    Everything happens for a reason. Baby steps are the hardest steps we take in life.

    January 16, 2014 at 7:13 am | Reply
  21. Steve

    Good! Get smart people of North Korea, look at the people in the South you deserve that too. Stop putting up with the nonsense your leaders feed you. Look at how much effort and resources gets wasted on your military and pet projects for your leader (Like the ski resort, the monster hotel that has been under construction for 20 years) then ask if that is a good reason why people should not have heat or food.

    January 16, 2014 at 7:37 am | Reply
  22. josh P.

    Same old propaganda,it,s as if we Americans really care about N Koreans.

    January 16, 2014 at 7:46 am | Reply
  23. acdavis75

    The sad thing is though that woman that defied that officer is probably dead or in jail. That officer probably was disciplined for failing to do his job. People that know that woman are probably dead or in jail. People that look like that woman are probably dead or in jail. Don't think for a second that N. Korean officials aren't going to try and do something about this after it entering public attention especially since there are those within their country fighting back, but for these people I think they know what they have gotten themselves into, and we can only wish the best of luck for them.

    January 16, 2014 at 7:54 am | Reply
  24. Reddog9500

    The woman who is shown defiantly standing up to the "authority figure" is more than likely dead now. All the information needed to identify her was provided on the film. I hope she felt it was worth it. If a few million of her contemporaries showed as much defiance it might make a difference. But then again, maybe not. Maybe Kim would be happy to execute a few million in order to maintain control. Fewer mouths to feed.

    (Just a thought: I wonder what would have happened to her if it were a New York City cop she started shoving and she was in the "Land of the Free".)

    January 16, 2014 at 8:01 am | Reply
    • Mike

      In the U.S., she would have gotten arrested and then released, waiting for trial. She might have got a short sentence, but it's possible she would have gotten away with a fine. She could have claimed she was mentally ill and have a doctor prove this. This would not really affect her future in the U.S. in any meaningful way because she did nothing major, although she resisted an officer. But she did not attack him with a weapon or anything like that so she would not be in big trouble. In North Korea, it's another story, of course. Her life is probably over if they will manage to track her down. Poor brave lady...

      January 17, 2014 at 6:04 pm | Reply
  25. Beth

    I hope they didn't cause this woman to get into trouble.

    January 16, 2014 at 8:08 am | Reply
  26. Saoise

    As China's wealth increases the NK gov. won't be able to hide behind their bs.

    January 16, 2014 at 8:30 am | Reply
  27. vince

    I've been to North Korea. There are two very distinct sides you see. One is the total submission to the Party and the Leader, but this is for the most part, a survival mechanism and lip service. North Korean tour guides are very selectively vetted for their loyalty to the State, but even on our tour, the lead tour guide was very interested in trying to do some side business with me. Politically he was very loyal but he wanted to be a businessman.

    The other tour guide who was younger was far more interesting. She at one point during a long walk and far out of reach of the senior tour guide started asking me all sorts of very political questions and expressed her deep concerns about what was happening in North Korea.

    During the tour we had been asked to bring along family photos to share with the guides. I did, but included in the photos was a trip I had made to Seoul several months earlier. I showed these photos to the younger tour guide and the look on her face said it all. She knew she had been lied to about how 'poor' South Korea was by the Party. I also gave her an iPod full of western songs which she loved. She said to me, while it's dangerous to own something like that, many ppl have them and she didn't care if she got into trouble.
    It was an amazing trip, full of many bizarre incidents, too numerous to mention here. But I did a lot of filming there and easily smuggled the film out from my camera. I wish the NK ppl all the best in their fight against tyranny.

    January 16, 2014 at 9:24 am | Reply
  28. kim jung unknown

    nothing new, black market was always there and NK soldiers doing that to get paid.

    January 16, 2014 at 9:49 am | Reply
  29. reality

    Why would any logical sane person believe anything that fox, cnn, etc.... publishes? You can fact check(if you want the truth), and discover that they have an agenda. All they do is publish propaganda and rhetoric!

    January 16, 2014 at 9:56 am | Reply
  30. DP

    Entrepreneur-ism does fill the gap of failed communism, but I'm not sure the woman berating the soldier still wasn't an example of someone from the party elite exercising her power. Someone being in uniform doesn't mean that person speaks for the local power.

    January 16, 2014 at 11:48 am | Reply
  31. Here We Go Again

    Interesting! Anyone who abused a U.S. police officer like that lady did to the NoKo cop probably would be shot dead on the spot. Happens all the time.

    January 16, 2014 at 11:51 am | Reply
  32. Jessica McGwin

    I have to ask if it is possible that the opposite is taking place. China has had a chock hold on North Korea for quit some time. Is it possible that the young leader has a long term goal of setting up more of a monarchy than a never ending dictatorship. I could see why China would gasp. After all China has enjoyed the privilege of past leadership in North Korea. A middle man to keep their hands clean. But always there to use in convenience. Is it possible that the young leader is in fact purging the current communist party to make way for a stronger more open relationship with the world. In order to make the transition from a dictatorship to a more democratic structure one would need to eliminate the control powers, then move to more of a monarchy after that many years of indoctrination it would be important to the loyal for the family or dynasty to retain leadership. Civil war is not a healthy or wealthy transition. Though it may be desired by China in an effort to stop progress. I have a feeling that maybe the young leader saw as a child the chains and bonds placed on his people. This transition would take time and very real caution . I could be wrong. I am wary of China's assessment of North Korea. And I think that China's interjection of itself in the language used is a threat to the current leadership, after how dare he interact with an American with out China's stamp of approval. I can also see that the young leader would be concerned that future allies would stack the deck. The young leader inherited a tough spot. I think that for a relationship to be cultivated between the United States and North Korea we have to not be afraid to confront the piles of dirty laundry. I have to be not afraid to admit that I to have failed, I failed secure my boarders, I failed to produce jobs, I failed at allot of things. I have more people in prison than any other country. Maybe that needs to change. Maybe the young leader knows mistakes have been made on both sides. What are the odds? You can not say impossible no such odd exists. Oh your probably right. What the hell do I know?

    January 16, 2014 at 12:23 pm | Reply
  33. rogersgeorge

    For a good book about North Korea, read _Nothing to Envy_. I forget the author's name. The book is on Amazon. It's a page-turner about the before and after lives of about a half dozen people who defected from NK.

    January 16, 2014 at 12:54 pm | Reply
  34. ding dang dong

    You can really notice all the countries that were influenced by Russia over the years just by the way the march.

    January 16, 2014 at 3:38 pm | Reply
  35. safsdfsdfs

    The woman who stood up to the guard did not care about the political regime. All she cared about was here business. She did not want the guard to interfere or pay him the bribe. She saw that he was a young dude. So pushed him around. That's all.

    January 16, 2014 at 4:27 pm | Reply
  36. tutuvabene

    Does Kim read and view outside media? Or does he actually believe his own propaganda, although I wouldn't think so.

    January 17, 2014 at 8:07 am | Reply
  37. Steve C.

    I can't believe CNN would show that brave woman's face.
    Maybe she had enough and couldn't take another moment of the regime's tyranny, maybe she was just having a bad day and she had every right to stand up for herself.
    But now that woman won't be able to hide away from what she did thanks to CNN.
    They must have known the possibility of the regime's punishment once the regime finds out what she did.
    Or did CNN think She is ONLY one life in a regime that does not hold value to human life anyways so it's not even worth blurring out her face. VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED at CNN.
    THANK YOU CNN FOR YOUR DILIGENCE IN ASSISTING THE REGIME'S WORK OF ROOTING OUT ANY TROUBLE MAKERS WITHIN NORTH KOREA.

    January 17, 2014 at 8:25 am | Reply
  38. Anthony

    I don't believe that exposure to decadent Western culture will turn North Korea away from their path to socialism.

    January 17, 2014 at 11:53 am | Reply
  39. Oleg

    How irresponsible is it to show that woman's face standing up to security?
    Has ANYONE thought of her?
    What do you think has happened to her since this video was aired?!
    Must as well have put her against the wall and pulled the trigger yourself.
    WHAT KIND OF JOURNALISM IS THIS CNN!?!?!?
    DOWN WITH CNN

    January 17, 2014 at 11:57 am | Reply
  40. Wayne Sharp

    Actually a show with Scott Wilson travelling here was quite an eye opener, pretty nice place and their Guides were won over in a day or two and enjoyed a laugh and some singing etc The all peoples show was especially grand and amazing they do so much with what they have!

    January 18, 2014 at 3:28 am | Reply
  41. B

    Didn't one single producer or assistant, or ANYBODY at CNN use their brain and consider blurring that brave woman's face in the video? I understand the importance of getting the story out to the world, but it could have been done without jeopardizing her life. Do you realize, Christiane and CNN, that you're the reason this woman is probably dead by now?? So much for responsible journalism.

    January 18, 2014 at 2:39 pm | Reply
  42. Joe

    You realize that poor woman is probably dead now that the video has been shown...

    January 18, 2014 at 8:21 pm | Reply
  43. an0ny

    Somebody should seriously consider using Rodman as a Howard Campbell, Jr. sort of guy.

    January 19, 2014 at 4:05 am | Reply
  44. Travis

    Actually, some of it is from 3 YEARS ago.

    January 15, 2014 at 7:24 pm | Reply
  45. VoteForPedro

    Which means, given NK technology capability, the people in govt won't see it for another 5yrs.

    So the woman in the video is likely safe from the hungry-dog-execution for another 5yrs.

    January 16, 2014 at 7:44 am | Reply
  46. SZF

    Wow, I hope you posted this as trollbait. Conflating the inadequacies of the US legal system to North Korea's lack of judicial process is ridiculous. Yes, America displays breathtaking hypocrisy on many subjects – the Geneva Convention for one – but not in this case.

    There's a difference between a small fine for "disturbing the peace" and being imprisoned, possibly along with your family, for a minor act of civil disobedience. Nor is being "pro-police" a bad thing – try living in a society without them.

    January 15, 2014 at 7:51 pm | Reply
  47. mimi

    true , on my many trips to teh usa, that was teh first thing which jumped to my eyes.. maybe cause the people are controled by fear and they need the illusion of a policeofficer even if taht means allowing them to conduct duties badly, abusing his power or overstepping his bounderies... .. just to feel a little bit safer....

    January 15, 2014 at 8:02 pm | Reply
  48. Kyle H. Davis

    No kidding – Look at how long China has had, and it's not much better off than this.

    January 15, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Reply
  49. robert

    Civil unrest in a nuclear capable Dictatorship is scary!

    January 16, 2014 at 6:50 am | Reply
  50. eric

    What do you know about Chinese History?

    January 16, 2014 at 3:14 am | Reply
  51. Angela

    China is a long way ahead of North Korea. IT actually has an economy. And people dare stand up against the government in China even more than this brave woman. You don't know much about China. The Chinese travel freely and have a relatively open society. when North Koreans flee to China they literally think they have gone to heaven.

    January 16, 2014 at 3:45 am | Reply
  52. Duston

    Contrary to popular belief, protesting is legal in China. The grey area is that it's allowed so long as it's not protesting against "the good of the people" or against their "interests", which means the government can deem any protest as being so. That's what happen in Tienanmen Square.

    January 16, 2014 at 6:16 am | Reply
  53. EdwardTr

    Actually, the 10 year rule and age limits in Chinese party leadership seem to prevent single person rule.

    January 16, 2014 at 8:03 am | Reply
  54. spyroo

    my concern is that if any of living in america had tried that to a police officer we would of goten shot or cought a beating and trown in jail for a few years at least

    January 16, 2014 at 7:23 am | Reply
  55. Lewis

    Really?

    You know anything on North Korea is a story. We know almost nothing about the place, this is just an effort to let people see what the hell is going on in that place. These videos prove that not all of the North Koreans are mindless robots, so that's pretty important.

    January 16, 2014 at 8:20 am | Reply
  56. Lewis

    No. I bet you have never even been to america.

    January 16, 2014 at 8:22 am | Reply
  57. Tewrobert

    That's very possible none of the news centers really care.
    That's more and more obvious all the time, Its all about money too you know

    January 16, 2014 at 8:23 am | Reply
  58. AreYouKiddingMe

    China may "appear" to have a stable economy, but it is merely a huge make-believe facade being propped up by their pointless, insane Urban Development "industry" that is continually building NEW "MODERN" cities with ENOURMOUS skyscrapers and huge empty highways that NO ONE uses or even needs!

    Ever since China started allowing citizens to invest in Real Estate in 2007 and ONLY in Real Estate, families have been saving money like crazy, and then investing in HUGE modern condo developments and office buildings in new "fake" cities that are being built all over China, but are COMPLETELY EMPTY and TOTALLY DEVOID of ANY PEOPLE or commerce whatsoever! Their Entire so-called "economy" is TOTALLY dependent upon these BIG POINTLESS urban development projects that keep money flowing between investors, contractors and suppliers but never seem to ever attract any tenets or businesses to actually LOCATE there! If they ever STOP the continual construction madness, their ENTIRE economy will collapse, as that is the ONLY legitimate "investment" market that Chinese citizens and businesses can participate in! Utter Madness!...

    January 16, 2014 at 10:52 am | Reply
  59. vince

    Very true Angela. I lived in China 10+ years and have been to NK. Your analysis is pretty spot on.

    January 16, 2014 at 10:57 pm | Reply

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