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By Mick Krever, CNN
The leader of Crimea’s Muslim minority, the Tatars, warned on Monday of possible bloodshed in Crimea and southern Ukraine.
“Our largest, biggest concern is about the possibility of clashes, of large scale bloodshed in Crimea,” Mustafa Dzhemilev, who is a member of Ukraine’s parliament, told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview.
The Ukrainian military will fight, despite an imbalance in power, if the Russian military goes further into Ukraine, Dzhemilev said.
“No matter how weak we are in military in comparison to Russia…we’ll start fire.”
“We’ll open fire if [the Russian] Army will move further. And it’s hardly within Russia’s interests or President Putin’s interests, but we can’t exclude anything.”
“But all this will result in bloodshed.”
As far as Russia is concerned, the annexation of Crimea is a fait accompli.
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev traveled to the territory on Monday, trying to win hearts and minds with pledges of higher salaries, better education and health care, and a special economic zone.
Dzhemilev spoke with Amanpour from New York, where he was set to take his plea for international order to the United Nations.
Giving Crimea up to Russia, he said, would be a violation of 1994’s Budapest Agreement in which Russia and Western powers guaranteed Ukraine’s territorial integrity.
“It would be a great tragedy for all Crimean people – not only for Crimean Tatars but also for ethnic Ukrainians and tens of thousands of ethnic Russians – who do not accept the Russian citizenship.”
Russia says over 95% of Crimeans voted in favor of joining Russia in a referendum held among the presence of Russian troops, but Dzhemilev said it was hardly a representative vote.
“The official authorities claim that officially 82% of Crimean population voted; but in fact we do have evidence that only 32.4% of Crimean people voted.”
He said it was based on data that was “quite accurate.”
Tatars, who he said represent 14% of the Crimean population, boycotted the vote; Dzhemilev said only 0.5% of Tatars voted.
Dzhemilev had a chance to plead his case in a conversation with the Russian president himself, Vladimir Putin, before Crimea held its referendum.
“We had half an hour talk.”
“I told Mister Putin that we do not accept this planned, forthcoming referendum, because it’s an absurd referendum under an occupational regime, and this regime contradicts some elementary, basic norms.”
The future of any particular Ukrainian territory cannot be decided locally, he said, without agreement of the rest of the country.
Western countries have attempted to punish Russia for its actions – and prevent further aggression – by levying travel bans and asset freezes on some Russian and Ukrainian officials.
Dzhemilev described those efforts as mere pin pricks, and said the sanctions should be “more effective.”
Would things be different, Amanpour asked, had Ukraine not given up the nuclear weapons left on its territory after the fall of the Soviet Union?
Absolutely, he said.
“Because it’s very dangerous to act [lawlessly] against nuclear powers.”
“Now there’s a talk in the parliament in order to apply all efforts for Ukraine to become, again, nuclear power, no matter how much is needed. I’m confident that if we were a nuclear power, that wouldn’t have happened.”
It would be nice to hear official comments from the U.S. and EU big bosses on Mr. Dzhemilev's revelations about the nuclear aspirations of the new authorities in Kiev. If what he said is true, how does it tally with Washington's frantic efforts do deny the same opportunity to Iran, North Korea and a few other hopefuls?
Very simple answer. Ukraine already WAS a nuclear power. Ukraine promised to give up its nukes in exchange for the assurances of its territorial integrity. These assurances – by Russia, US and UK – are not worth the paper that they are written on. Thus, Ukraine can go back to the situation BEFORE the assurances, and become a nuclear power once again. It will NOT do so by buying nukes or the technology, but by simply making some new warheads using the technology which it already possesses, but is not selling to anyone, UNLIKE Russia. That simple.
and unlike the US which just gives its nukes away (Israel).
Actually not quite true...those nukes on Ukrainian soil were NEVER Ukriane's. They belonged to Russia, and Russia removed them. The truth eventually surfaces, just like it's beginning now, with comments from an Irish MP, and Germans, finally acknowledging that the Kiev coup was orchestrated by a bunch of neo-nazi fascist hot head radicals, who the west should have never supported and that it would be insane to allow them to get their hands on a nuke.
Not completely true also, it was Soviet Unions, as we also know that Soviet Union was not only Russia, it was also other 15 republics including Ukraine, who also had their research laboratories and their scientists.
Still not technically true, those Nukes belonged to the Soviet Union which Ukraine was a member state of. They were just as much the property of Ukraine as Russia.
Tatar sauce is good with fish... mmmm skrumshush
Ukraine has not and is not threatening neighboring countries unlike the two you mentioned. On the other hand, it is the one being threatened of being wiped out in world map by a powerfully-armed country
Ukraine is not threatening any nation and a victim of aggression, while North Korea is bragging to destroy US and South Korea with nuke. Same thing with Iran ambition to wipe Israel off the map. Would you not be scared if Muslim Iran transfer some nuke material to some Muslims in Russia?
I just don 't trust Kerry in his talks with Lavrov Time & again Kerry shows no backbone, resilience. Lavrov is simply to cunning to his counterpart Kerry. That goes for Obama/Putin as well. The west needs a Reagan, a Thatcher not the likes of Obama, Kerry, Cameron ,Merkel who seem to have forgotten the graves spread thru-out Europe to fight for freedom & democracy not the amount of monies being lost by Big Money. Shame on them.
Your new Reagan can re-invade Grenada and justify it as defending US citizens like they did the first time around and like Russia did with Crimea. If you are both using the same excuse to break international law then maybe the US and Russia will get along better.
and what part of grenda does the us now annex and occupy?... your argument sucks
Your USA is always breaking International law. sending drones and killing hundreds of innocent civilians in other countries.
Think about this, the two biggest bullies on the block decide to nuke it out
Assuming the pretext of Grenada invasion is about the protection of US citizens but US forces left the island after the invasion and did not attempt to take Grenada to be part of US country.
Unfortunately, you are absolutely right.For various reasons the Western World has never wanted to notice the real, imperialist Russia, turning a blind eye to reality.
And what are the Ukrainians going to fight the Russians with exactly ?
They let them waltz on in and take over all their military bases and naval ports...I hope at least they got some sticks and stones to use ?
You may have a point here. That was what the Egyptian people did bring down Mubarak (sp)
This Tatar weaving nothing better than ethnicity issues is a classic example of world problem. He is a vile racist that should be cut before he could multiply and cause trouble that could kill hundreds of thousands.
Sometimes man is too kind blind that they woke up in hell.
Are you talking about Putin?
But the Tatar looks like being used as a horse there. Inciting them to pose trouble along religious and racist lines appears to be the idea behind people like Dzhemilev.
Now why should he drag me and you in there? Cant he do it alone if that's what he wants?
Are the Tataars of Russia abused? Are they persecuted for their religion? Are they treated 2nd class citizens? etc etc?
Come on, we want to hear real issues.
Are you that stupid? Crimea once belonged to the Tatars...genocide, deported to Turkey among other regions.. Read up on your history & until than just shut up till you become educated to at least a grade 8 level in History.
Low level of your education is evident. Russians fight turkey invaders 300 years ago and got Crimea. Since 300 years tatars play 0 role in history of Crimea. So if you propose russian to go back, why would US not drawback from Texas and New Mexico and leave mexican land ? US did genocide on mexicans ?
BTW I would like to hear which international law allow Turkey (NATO) to occupy North Cyprus ? And why Israel can occupy Palestina and part of Syria ? Or was Greece developing nuclear bomb as Iraq that was never found afterwards ?
That is really funny how stupid american propaganda is, but not all people are such dumb.
Dude he asked a question and you come here with this elitist nonsense? World history is vast! And what happened to much of Eastern Europe post World War II is not even discussed in many textbooks around the world. The beginning of all wisdom is with the statement "I do not know." Respect a person's desire to learn.. You may be the smartest person in the room.. but you will find yourself standing alone and ignored because you, with all your wisdom and glory, show so little class and humanity...
US once pulled a genocide on Indians, so how is it relevant today, it's history
@sonny, well said.
Typical reply from a liberal demoncrap.
Tatars in Russia... They have their own republuc with large autonomy powers(and Tatar language is official there), they are owners of huge businesses – oil, chemical, air carrier worth trillions. They are political heavyweights – e.g. the current RF minister of communications is from Tatarstan. Just google "Kazan", Shaimiyev
Scratch a Russian, and Youl find a Tatar. In fact ethnic Tatar one is right beside me at work, with a year salary of $40,000 not counting bonuses. Middle level income
it s fair they live quiet as all citizens but jehovah s witnesses risk to be persecuted with orthodoxy church which doesnot tolerate if the might is russian and nother churches not seen as churches religion no but sects autodafe will not to be long at settingagainstall them!
Dzhemilev is not really a Tatar's leader since 2013, after his son killed his friend.
Why would anyone take a word from this invertebrate leader of .....whatever. He is the reason the Russian troops should burn their stinking slums down and send them to the virgins.Would be good riddance anyway.
@gork, your comment sound hateful. Cool off!
What a load of nonsense. CNN and many foreign news teams witnessed hundreds of thousands voting, including many Tatars. It sounds like he is sour for losing his meal ticket. Lets not forget the nukes that Ukraine had were Russian. They were removed on condition that Ukraine would be a neutral state. The EU clearly interfered in Ukraine and funded the thugs in Kiev. That violated neutrality and invited a Russian response. The Tatars would be better served with s new leader. Russia should revoke his right of return.
Russia is sensitive to invitations. When they sent troops to East Germany they said were invited. In Czechoslovakia, they were invited they claimed. In Afghanistan they were INVITED later on retreated badly wounded.
The Ukrainians won't fight. Most support Russia. That's what Kiev is worried about. They gave up Crimea without a whimper. Over 80% defected to Russia. Eastern Ukraine will fall just as quick. Does the EU and US really want to force Russia to intervene? Remove the thugs in Kiev.
A part of UKRAINE will remain wih EUROPE by affinity of ideal minding aim another part will follow the russian s steps wit a renewed joy a whole heart and soul one to west another to to RUSSIA always it had been born russian living in ukraine they were brother s states
It is important to note that Mr. Dzhemilev is NOT the official leader of the Crimean tatars – there are several rival organizations that all purport to represent the interests of the tatars, and Mr. Dzhemilev represents just one of them. As for Mr. Dzhemilev's claims regarding the voter turnout at the referendum – on the day of the voting, to demonstrate his opposition to it, he departed for Turkey. I wonder where he gets such "precise numbers," considering he was not even in the country when the vote took place? Should we believe him, or the over fifty international observers who were actually THERE and witnessed the entire process in real-time? Finally, his own organization does not share his views – this Sunday, an official meeting with all the representatives of the Tatars from across Crimea was held, and, in the absence of Mr. Dzhemilev (who keeps traveling abroad stirring trouble, instead of providing any real help to his people) they voted overwhelmingly to cooperate with the new Crimean government and to send their representatives there.
I normally don't comment CNN or any other articles but ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???!!! WHAT BLOOD SHED??? FOR WHAT POSSIBLE REASON?? First of all if anything, Russian authorities want as least amount of trouble in the region as possible to let this whole Crimea finally blow over – that's plain logic! No one wants to displace or otherwise hurt local Tatar minorities. No reason for that too. Russia has muslims all over the country and they are doing well off. The states lost this one now the are attempting to spread false information like the upcoming invasion of the Eastern Ukraine that still never happened, to attract more public attention to problems that do not exist and still try to squeese Crimea out of Russia by pressure. CNN turns to plain lying wheras it is supposed to imform! So by the way does Obama when he speaks of a referendum in Kosovo that never actually happened. I mean that is so lame and low for a leader of a country like USA!
that is the way to go President Obozo and your lead circus clown Kerry...get people to start killing among themselves....this is the Western Way.....no plan, just to cover your ass that both of you are not wimps! Well sorry...both of you are....hey Kerry take over the makeup...it really makes you look like a clown.
Mustafa Dzhemilev is a Worrior! I saw him 2 days ago, myself! His spirit is sronger than anyone, anywhere, especially those commenting here in anti Crimeana and anti-Tatar gossips! I'm Tatar myself and If needed We'll fight, by 1 word of Mustafa Dzhemilev!
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Tatar leader warns of possible bloodshed. have they tried new crest tatar control?
It happened that Mustafa Dzhemilev is not the ONLY leaders of Crimean Tartars, and his point of view is not supported by Refat Chubarov (also a leader of Tartars, and also member of Crimean parliament) who called for cultural autonomy through peaceful way. Neither by Rustam Minnikhanov, Head of Tartarstan (who doesn't know, there is already an autonomous republic of Tartars within RF) who discussed various issues of Tartars autonomy. As for the bloodshed, what's new? The experience is rich, see Field Marshal (of the Russian army) Burkhard Christoph von Munnich and Generalissimus (Stalin) himself
You either don't know anything about the Crimean Tatars or are spreading disinformation. Refat Chubarov and Mustafa Dzhemilev work together and see eye to eye. Their positions are coordinated. Officially, Chubarov was elected the new leader after Dzhemilev stepped down. Tatarstan has NOTHING to do with the Crimean Tatars.These are two completely different peoples. The Tatars in Tatarstan (also known as Kazan Tatars), are a fake republic within Russia itself. They don't have any rights and their language and culture are being strangled and killed by the Putin regime. Their plight is actually a great example for the Crimean Tatars who, within an independent Ukraine, have a great deal of autonomy and thus want nothing to do with Putin's corrupt dictatorship.
Mustafa Dzhemilev is truly a great man and very respected leader. During the Soviet period, he spent many years as a political prisoner in the Soviet GULAG. He has fought for the truth and the rights of his people all of his life and is incorruptible. It really is a disgrace that the interpreter in this interview with Amanpour SUCKED!!! Mr. Dzhemilev always speaks very eloquently but the interpreter butchered his words and, it seems, did not interpret much if what he said. CNN really does need a new Russian interpreter.
The more he talks – the more chances he'll spend the rest of his life in an unknown grave...
Same way as Dudaev, Basaev and other "respected leaders"...
Mongols invaded then Ukraine, Crimea and a vast part of modern day Russia and ruled for many years. Tatars came with them and inhabited Crimea in 13th century without deporting anybody. They embraced Islam in early 14th century. Crimea became an important centre of Islamic civilization. They established independent Muslim kingdom in 1441. But after sometime, they subjugated to the Ottoman empire. Eventually they became independent again. Finally , in 1783 Russia occupied Crimea. From then,it was under Russia, then under USSR , then under Ukraine and again under Russia. What about Tatars and their once independent kingdom of Crimea for a long period of 350 years? Is Russia is not a hated occupier?
Obviously not. they were asked by the Crimea to intervene after neo-n@zis grabbed the power in ukrain and ousted a democratically elected president.
The Tartars used to raid Slavic farming settlements and enslave people on behalf of the Turkic Ottomans.
I have seen their settlements in Crimea. I thought they were Roma people. Very good little restaurants , though.
What we keep forgetting is that this whole mess started with an uprising against a democratically chosen president of the Ukrain. If the Ukrainians would just have waited till the next elections, nothing would have happened. Guess who was behind that coup ? Yes, of course the western intelligence service had an interest in it.
Why did Russia not boycott the US and threw it out of the G8 when it illegally and in violation of the UNSC invaded iraq to search for aaaaal the weapons of mass destruction there?
We are the hypocrites again in the west, thinking we can invade any country we like, but the Russians can not come to the support of their own people in crimea when they are explicitly asked to do so ?
I'm so sick of that line ' uprising against a democratically chosen president' ! Can I just bring to everyone's attention that just because a leader is democratically elected does not mean he can do what ever he likes until the next elections. Yanukovych (Putin's puppet) is a corrupt liar, thief and killer hiding now behind Putin's skirt and living off the billions $ he stole from the Ukrainian nation . The people had every right to depose him and run him out of the country. I suspect that the next time we see him will be at the Hague on trial for crimes against humanity. Hopefully Putin, the murderous, tyrant dictator, will follow closely behind. Russian people – wake up to the brainwashing!!
> in fact we do have evidence that only 32.4% of Crimean people voted.”
> He said it was based on data that was “quite accurate.”
The exact number was 32.3985456782451544 % because one ballot had one corner torn apart so it couldn't be counted as even number....
I don't think the man can read, let alone control pr even know of percentages. But the CNN journalist always takes the side of Muslims and brings it up, though it has little relevance.
If she wants people to know what's happening in Ukraine she should talk to the Hungarians and the Ruslans in Western Ukraine . more numerous, better educated and who want to be self-governing.
Russia took over Crimea in 1783, and since then, it was doing everything in its power to wipe out indigenous people of Crimea – crimean tatars (they were killed and persecuted – check the percentage of crimean tatars in Crimea before and after). That is why millions of crimean tatars were forced to leave Crimea. The last tragedy of these people happened in 1944 when Stalin deported them and planted russians on the peninsula. After Soviet Union collapsed, crimean tatars started to return to their motherland, but it was very difficult. That is why today Crimean tatars are only 15% of Crimea's population.
British concerns about the inhabitants of Ukraine are a double edged sword. History shows that Cossacks and their families were executed or sent to Siberia where many died. History also shows that the British military lied (on their honour!) and sent the Cossacks to their fate (although the Cossacks had fought against the Allies in WWII).
As Wikipedia recounts: On 28 May 1945, the British Army arrived at Camp Peggetz, in Lienz, where there were 2,479 Cossacks, including 2,201 officers and soldiers. They went to invite the Cossacks to an important conference with British officials, informing them that they would return to Lienz by six o’clock that evening; some Cossacks worried, but the British reassured them that everything was in order. One British officer told the Cossacks: “I assure you, on my word of honour as a British officer, that you are just going to a conference”. By then, British–Cossack relationships were friendly to the extent that many on both sides had developed emotions for the other. The Lienz Cossack repatriation was exceptional, because the Cossacks forcefully resisted their British repatriation to the USSR; a Cossack noted: “The NKVD or the Gestapo would have slain us with truncheons, the British did it with their word of honor.”
The Cossacks refused to board the trucks. British soldiers [armed] with pistols and clubs began using their clubs, aiming at the heads of the prisoners. They first dragged the men out of the crowd, and threw them into the trucks. The men jumped out. They beat them again, and threw them onto the floor of the trucks. Again, they jumped out. The British then hit them with rifle butts until they lay unconscious, and threw them, like sacks of potatoes, in the trucks. — Operation Keelhaul (1973), by Julius Epstein.
The British transported the Cossacks to a prison where the Soviets assumed their custody. In the town of Tristach, Austria, there is a memorial commemorating General Helmuth von Pannwitz and soldiers of the XV SS Cossack Cavalry Corps who were killed in action or died as POWs.
1 – Crimean Turks (not tatars)
2 – Crimean Turks Are NATIVE people of Crimea, NOT the minority! (even thought the Cyrillic alphabet that came from Cyrill and Methodius came from Crimea and Christianity came to Russia from Crimea, as well)
3 – Almost every person with a Russian name will spread FALSE gossips against Crimeans! (they are all shovinists- nationalists)
4 – I'm a Crimean Turk, citizen of the USA and Russia, and have 25% of Russian blood, that I'm ashamed of!
5- All Crimean Turks are solider with each other! Mustafa and Chubarov have the same opinion in 110%! All Crimean Turks have the same solidarity!
5 – Putler has to go away, and Mustafa aga is right!
Turkic people are not indigenous to any part of Europe.
I think if you are a citizen of the U.S. you should learn how to speak the language of the U.S.A
He said he has evidence that only 32.4% of Crimeans voted
Can we see this evidence?
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