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Son of Hamas, Spy for Israel?
March 2nd, 2010
05:45 PM ET
Christiane just finished interviewing a son of a found of Hamas who claims he spied for Israel:
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Christiane, you should do a show based on the fact that Israel did the killing in Dubai. You are the ex-Israeli PM 5 times and he did the usual (and very legal thing) and didn't admit anything, what means "Israel did it".
Why do people think they will be innocent of killing if they just don't admit doing the crime?
Israel always cry that they are the victims, but when they do atrocities is always for a 'good cause'.
This book, Son of Hamas, looks like a must read. What an incredible story and a brave young man. Can't wait to watch this interview.
Fernando F. What you have is a pre-supposition of the incident or in layman's terms; your view. Your view has nothing to do with fact!
Seen the interview. This guy,Mosab Hassan Yousef appeared to have spoken with conviction.
he is a hero , i wish lof of muslim will do the same and ra
I think it is God that is changing him and not he himself. What he is doing is perfect and i pray that God will not let him fail.
The so called "Son of Hamas" is not only confused but mentally ill because he himself is misinformed. He has made claims to which he has no proof of and I strongly believe he is still an agent of Shin Bet. He has made himself an enemy of muslims because of his claims and has insulted Islam, radical islamists will make him pay with his life and I am glad he knows this.
As a Palestinian Muslim I could not understand or sympathise or relate to anyting Musab said. He is a confused person who choose a twisted path to reach some odd "fame" by stepping over his parents and peoples hearts and trust. My heart goes out to his parents who had to endure such pain and scandle from his actions and over exagurated claims. The release of the book will bring him temporary fame but I don't think anyone can respect someone like this. And as a Muslim I must say that he has no right to attack "God" this way and we are happy he has left the religion as we don't need screwed up people like this speaking in the name of Islam. I honestly and truly dont believe even the enemy can respect someone like Musab.
An amazing and very unique interview. He certainly is an extremely brave person. From all the interviews with Amanpour this one definitely rates among the top ones.
What a character!
..remains to be seen who was using who...maybe Shin Bet got it's money's worth and look what it got him....marked for life..
he is one of the new palestinian generation but do u think it is the end no body can tell what is the future hide < u can tell that he is genius and he loves hispalestine but what is going on in his thinking only he is the only one knows do u thing a change in the palestinians way of thinking and strugeling he will lead < some thing all of us are going to see from this young man
When Mosab Yousef characterizes what is happening in the Middle East by "their God" against our God and which God is the good God, he has fallen in the same trap of narrow mindedness that plagued the region with an insignificant difference of changing camps. May all human beings remember the goodness of their hearts irrespective of any God. May human beings leave God to Himself/ Herself and just focus on being humane. Peace, Love and Best Smiles.
Now everyone will realise how bloodthirsty Hamas is...out of the mouth of one of its own. No peace can be made with Hamas
"Mosab Hassan Yousef" can no more see the roots of the conflict, he's confused that he ignored the roots of the Palestinian Israeli conflict. He overlooked the fact that the conflict is over the land; not a religious conflict. Palestinians; Muslims or Christians or secular; both stands beside each other against the Israeli occupation. Mosab as he stated in the interview; as a Palestinian child; he had thrown stones over the occupation soldiers and defiantly Christen, Muslims & secular children where there with him.
The conflict is not related only to Muslims, its related to the Palestinians. Mosab got out of the prison with confused view of the Palestinian Israeli conflict. In my point of view; while in prison; Mosab thoughts was deceived by isreali intelligence (Shin Bet) and now he is used as a media weapon to push the conflict between the West and the Islamic world to new levels.
What am trying to clarify, even if Mosab disagree with Hammas policies, Mosab had helped an illegitimate OCCUPATION and helped no one else. What Mosab did got no one CLOSER TO PEACE.
It's amazing at how the rest of the world can tolerate rockets being fired into Israel on a daily basis by Hamas, and continual harassment by Hezbollah and a nuclear threat by Iran, and when someone gets killed and then Israel gets the blame as the usual suspect without the evidence.
the son of the Amas leader has been brain wash psychologically and he is not thinking original Israeli agent are using him against in own brother he is coward before his convert into Christianity. he may have memorize the holy Qura'an ,without getting the true message but to some day go against his own brothers.
i reaaly admire his courage and conviction, but above all, the issue of middle east has it genesis from the the time of Abraham, isaac and i shmael. genuine love goes beyond boundaries of religion. he openly expresses his love for his parents and palestinians regardless of their religious beliefs.
the occupation will remain to be a thorny issue as long as love beyond borders will be denied space.
Actually, watching the interview rendered me speechless! This young man's views are totally erroneous especially concerning Moslems and their God. What he said against Allah is blasphemy! He is totally free to convert to Christianity, but he has to get his facts right first. If he was in direct content with some Moslems who understand nothing about their religion, this shouldn't necessarily ensue that all Moslems are like that... What Mosab has said is outrageous! I will pray that God be with him, be it the Moslem or the Christian God because I don't think they are different!
I have been anticipating the release if this book and can not wait to see this interview. Kudos to you Mosab for your courage in exposing the true Islam and "Hamas". There will never be peace between the Israeli's and the Palestinians. I have studied the Muslim faith for over a year now and it is not a "peaceful" religion but one of pure hatred. For those who hate Israel and commit these atrocities against them....your day will come. As it says in the Bible in Ezekiel 28:24 "No longer will the people of Israel have malicious neighbors who are painful briers and sharp thorns. Then they will know that I am the Sovereign LORD." and Isaiah 10:17 says this "And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;".
Mosab, thank you for your courage to come out and speak for the one true God. The truth will set you free! It is only through His son Jesus Christ that one can be saved. You have many, many Christians praying for you! God bless you!
i think that Mosab is showed much curage , it is clear that people
fanatic radicals harmful to humanity'when people have a good logical
thinkins it will bring a peace and brotherhood and help connet with all
around the world .
more people should think like you.
I will be happy to read your book.
take care
and all the god love you
I am speechless after seeing this interview. Mosab may be confused but courageous and sincere.
Middle east need more Mosab. May God be with him.
when Israel totally turn to Jesus, all his neighbours will, says the Bible.
@Joelle R: "I will pray that God be with him, be it the Moslem or the Christian God because I don't think they are different!"
Well I think they are!!! How dare you insult my believes by claming that Allah is in ANY way similar to God?
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Is there anyway to see this interview for foreigners (like myself who is a Norwegian)?
Can you imagine what this current sick world would be like if we had a million Mosabs like him?
God honouring, selfless, standing up for good instead of evil, love instead of hatred, forgiveness instead of war?
This change in this young man can only be inspired by a God who's love and character transcends beyond our feeble and mortal limitations.
He's not confused! We are! I'm inspired!
Mosab said that Hamas targets innocent people. Does he know how many civilians were killed on the wars on Lebanon and Gaza, when al bombs were dropprd on their houses?
How many children and women are in israeli prisons?
How many kids and sick people are dying bec. medicine is forbidden to enter Gaza.
He used Amanpour's ignorance of Koran and told lies . Koran says an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth just like the bible he believes in now.
It's clear ,israel used him bec, he showed weakness towards his own people and Hamad refused his help bec he is not trustworthy.
he is still confused. I wish he would find the truth before it is too late.
seriously???? I do not believe a word this guy says. Hamas and Hezbollah threaten Israel? Hamas whose land is occupied? all those civilians who have been occupied by israel since 48, what do you call them? terrorists for wanting their own country back? Im coming to take over your home, make u live in a corner of the basement, not allow you access to anything, even human basic needs, and let me know how you will react, this guy is definitly a shin bit operative, he is being used now by them as part of this ploy to cover up Israels murders of the palestinians....the world will continue to live in shame as it allows such atrocities to happen...
and one more thing about the issue of the middle east and the core argument that every Israel supporter has no answer for? What does the flag of Israel stand for???? The two blue lines and the star of David...From the Nile to the Euphrates with the land of Israel in between...so much for not announcing a destructive agenda of occupying more lands and killing more innocent civilians...Most of the leaders of Israel started as part of the Hagana (sp??) gangs terrorizing Palestinian farmers, by committing terrorist acts against innocent farmers..including the killing of scores of those farmers. look at all the massacres Israel has committed in its history against the Palestinians (which by the way was confirmed by Israeli researchers.. reference The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited (Cambridge Middle East Studies)
Benny Morris (Author) for starters...
War doesn't bring any good in our society... who is winning or lossing... But this young man, pointed out PEACE in that part of Middle East... A wake up call to those in involved in this atrocities to settle for peace... make a compromise to achieve these... This young man already win the war... He may not live long but his revelation is phenomenal...
In reference to Stella :
This is not to comment on your views but to point out an inaccuracy.Bible no longer advocates' an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. That Old Testament axiom was replaced by Christ with ' turn the other cheek" doctrine .
Thank you for your great skill of intervew. and I don't belive the words of the son of hamas founder. he is fooling himself. we are not child.
To "Fernando F." :
I don't understand why Israel's hit on Dubai is a crime.
The guy was there to deliver weapons to Hamas – a terrorist organization that attack Palestinians to serve the agenda of others (I was there, and I saw it in my own eyes!).
I would treat Dubai's claims with a bit more respect if they were FAIR and not hypocrite – they should have, at least, condemn Hamas as well, for using their land to deliver weapons to terrorists.
Thank you Christiane for this interview,
Strong story and crazy that he comes out with the story like that but if that is the way he decided to save innocent Palestinian lives, then he's a Hero! He's an example for the new generation of Palestinians, not because he was a spy for Shin Bet!... But because he saved INNOCENT lives on BOTH sides!!! Since Hamas is "using" Palestinian civilians and killing innocent people from ALL religions... Hopefully this will help young Palestinians not blindly to follow him but make them think about their future, without hamas! Make the new generation of Palestinians and Israeli's believe in a future without violence... At least The Son of hamas has the courage to come out to face the world without violence or propaganda, I wish hamas leaders could learn from that, stop hiding, and instead of bombing innocents, taking care of the lost Palestinians... Thank you to The son of hamas for saving unknown and innocent children... for info I lived and worked on both sides in the region...
Christiane, I followed you for years in Israel, I made alyiah. Love israel but am back in Buenos Aires, my former city. So happy to find you again. I am thinking the same way as Yossi Melman, too many rosy stories have been told, no one was true. it is very difficult to change our minds. Facts will only convince us.
Christiane: I was struck by the incredulous tone of your questioning. Is it really so hard to believe that this man of conscience could work against the designs terrorists and suicide bombers? Is it really so hard to believe that he could see Israelis as anything but the amoral caricatures that European and Middle Eastern media portray them as?
To be honest, Mosab Yousef’s confession will be very difficult to comprehend by mere mortal minds, whether he is telling the truth or not should not be an issue of media debate but his conscience, what is important here are the conviction and the content of his ideology. He will certainly be called names. But let us remember that even Jesus was viewed in his time as been demon possessed, blasphemous, crazy, betrayer of his brothers and parents and so on. Mosab Yousef will not be an exception.
For me it is still a message and challenge to all, even the Christians and the Israelis who still take for granted the value of their heritage. “The first may become the last and the last may become the first” Those who have ears let them hear.
My advice to Mosab Yousef is to first congratulate him for this bold step that he has taken in life. It only takes one who has had a true encounter with God to do this, be honest with yourself, you can not deceive God.
Many are out there are still trapped in this serious spiritual and emotional conflict, but afraid to take up there destiny in there own hands. Second advice is that he should not condemn any body or any religion in the course of his Christian life because Christianity does not support that.
The journey that he has now chosen to undertake will not and I repeat be an easy one. Let him know that he will definitely face persecutions from all sides even from the so called Christians. But he should never give up, be strong, try your possible best to save other lives, go underground, avoid media, let Christ be your standard. I can assure you that you will never regret your action.
For the Muslim faithful, this is a challenge and now the time to prove to the entire world that Islam is truly the religion of peace that does not shed human blood, forgiveness, freedom of human right and of compassion as it has been preached, by their action and response to Mosab Yousef position.
The world is watching with keen interest, any action that they may take at this moment could impart either positively or negatively on someone as terrorism has now had in part on Mosab Yousef.
Thanks.
In the name of Islam Christianity and Judaism people kill. Musab is confused because these religions are the source of this. he is a different person that has his own culture, no one can tell what he is thinking till reading his book. Shin Bet turned against him and also the Palestinians and Muslims and I think what he did is logical because he doesn't know his enemy. All what he wanted is safety and peace that all the Palestinians and their children want.
I watched your interview with Mosab Yousef and I am sure that I speak for any self-respecting muslim and must say that I was filled with dismay and disgust at the unsubstantiated and cruel comments he made about Islam.
His statements shows that he clearly has no understanding of Islam (even though he claims to have read/memorised half of the Quran) – sorry Mosab but that isn't a proof of correct comprehension.
He has shown himself for what he truly is – a callous betrayer who cares about nobody except himself.
I hope Mosab was paid millions of dollars for selling his soul to the devil! Cheap propaganda by the Israelis, it's so obvious. Mosab, may God have mercy on your lost soul
Regrettably Mr. Gerges' expertise is not on the Middle East but his hatered for Israel
Cutting right to the chase. I beleive that his experience is a template for what is going on in the Middle East. When he states that Hamas was torturing even their own in prison and the fact that Hamas "targets" civilians while Isreal goes out of their way to avoid any accidental civilian causalties, this to me reveals death and control on one side and life and freedom on the other. What did 911 look like. Target buildings that did no military work and housed a daycare center. We in turn spend Millions and our own blood to target just terrorists because with value and love the Life of Humans.
He also had his finger on the pulse of the dispute when he stated God of Islam being violence and control, Christianity being one of loving your enemys to protect them from their own lack of understanding.
Life Vs Death, I beleive it rests on the foundation of the God of Islam (I beleive Satan) and the God of Christianity(I beleive is Jehova God,Jesus:))
An amazing story brought to us by CNN, Thankyou, and Thankyou to a young man with boldness and courage! I think many of us could glean precious courage from him.
A person who sold his country and faith cannot be respected. Most of the praises come from Christians who of course are haters of Islam, but they definitely forgot that 99% of the wars in history were launched under the sign of the cross. All the british invasions of Africa, Asia, and USA... World War I and II, Vietnam War, Korean War, Iraq and Afghanistan War, Bosnia and Herzegovina genocide to name a few and latest. Now we see the hatred the christians have for islam which will regrettably lead to more extremist actions. If your faith is so peaceful why do you hold so much hatred to blacks, asians, muslims, and jews?
Thank you so much for interviewing Mosab...I have been 3 times to the Christian bookstore, waiting for their shipment of his book to come in. I, being an Evangelical Chrisitan, rejoice greatly with this young man, and my prayer is that God will use him in a powerful way to reach the Muslim world, that their eyes may be opened. Many Christians are praying for the Muslim world to come to know Yeshua, Sar Shalom, Jesus who is the Prince of Peace. May Mosab be the first of thousands to be aflame with the Gospel!
Dear Ms. Amanpour,
I have been watching you for thirty years and enjoy your reporting skills as well as the topics you addressed. For your report this afternoon I would like to share the following with you:
1. Fawzy Gerges has to be political about his comments therefore I felt he added nothing to your report.
2. Osama Hamdan has no choice but to repute everything because a was faced with the hard reality from a person from within.
3. The Israeli spy expert and journalist was stating the facts as they are. This is how the Israeli are being able to stop the terrorist acts is by knowing about them before hand and stopping them.
4. As far as Mosab I truly believe he thought long and hard about the God of Quran, the God of the Old Testament and the God of the Christian faith. Mosab saw a little difference between the first two Gods "Eye for Eye and tooth for tooth" and the Christian God who taught us to" love our ennemy" To any thinking person the later God is more like a God at least to me too. The contradiction in the Surahs of Quran are so evident and a muslim can believe in either side and based on this choice they could be extremist or not.
Regards,
George
Christiane Amanpour, Hi,
Thank you for the intensive interview with "Son Of Hamas"; as you already know, hamas itself was originally financed&createdby isreali intelligence.
Mosab has obviously been tortured, brainwashed threatened &black
mailed by the israelis, he also been tempted& lured into this with a false promise of fortunes beyond his dreams. He is overwhelmed.
Unfortunately, He will never live to enjoy the fruits of his labor, bcoz the befeciaries thereof will ultimately be Sin-beth. After all its their book.
lsrael can target any member of his family or hamas at will with a high rate of successful accuracy using GPS&lsrael has proved time&again of its sophisticated & successful target assasinations.
lm sure they have convinced him that if he doesnt cooperate his fate as well as his father&family whom lm sure he loves very much will be the same as other hamas leaders before them.
His father is now a hostage or in protection in israel jail pending Mosab's behaviour & world response to his interview & book.
Maybe he truly been made to believe that he is saving lives on both sides, but how can we trust a man who has betrayed his GOD, father, country, people & principles just bcoz he wants to make money.
The book followed by a motion picture is enough fortune to last him & his family for 10 generations to come.
THE BOOK WRITTEN BY SIN BETH....
This POOR clown is so desparate, 1stly coz of his book, which they aspire to make millions or maybe billions with over time.
It is yet another israeli propaganda to insult & discredit lslam, hamas,
the palestinians & arabs using its own sons as the mouthpieces.
This also reminds me of sales-man rush-die;and his satanic verses;
2ndly coz he knows that he will soon die, to be killed by either a fellow palestinian, a fellow israeli agent or just a fanatic muslim who just got offended by what he said during your interview or from what he wrote in the book that was written by israeli intelligence using his name on the cover.
ITS THE ULTIMATE & CLASSIC CASE IN ISREALI PROPAGANDA &IN
BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES....
I DO HAVE A GREAT DOUBT IN THAT SUBMISSION MADE BY THIS YOUNG CHAP MOSAB IN HIS BOOK. I WILL SUGGEST A FORENSIC REVIEW OF THIS BOOK TO ASCERTAIN THE HONEST OPINION OR OTHERWISE OF THIS YOUNG MAN'S CLAIM OF INGENUITY. I SO SUBMIT.
everyone needs his/her 15 minutes fame, the conflict in the region is not about religion, no matter what anyone is saying, the simple truth is that there is an occupation and there is a collective punishment is underway and carried daily by the Israeli army. Mosab is entitled to his opinion, but Christens do not need him and he adds absolutely no value. Abraham is our grandfather Christens/Jews and Muslims and he can still serve the Lord and be a good person as a Muslim, change his religion does not make him a better person. May the Lord be with you Mosab, may be you have courage but you got it wrong and you helped no one with your book.
While there is criticism of the assassination in Dubai, there seems to be a tolerance of the fatwas for killing Mosab, Rushdie, Wilder, etc. The muslim world has can't continue to ahve it both ways.
He has no right to discrace any religion for anything, there are some lines you just don't cross!
Great interview Christiana. The brave young man Musaab have declared the truth which will be strongly attacked by Muslims. everywhere.
@Umar Farouq Maina:
I refer to part of your comment ".... He has made himself an enemy of muslims because of his claims and has insulted Islam, radical islamists will make him pay with his life...."
If Allah be mighty, why kill others for him? Why don't you leave Allah to defend and prove himself as mighty?
I am shocked to see CNN let this person be aired, as he used alot of language that is disturbing to 1.3 people all across the world. Islam is a religion of peace. The last atrocity I remember is the active genocide that still goes on in Gaza. CNN needs to be more discrete in who they decide to put on air. All this guy is bringing to the table is more hate !
He trades one religion for another, while all along, all he's doing is trading one religious organization for another....sad
No religion preaches hatred. There is fundamental good in ALL religions. This poor guy has it confused....but at least he'll sell some books
As a Christian ,I just wanna tell Mr.Musab ,that Islam's God is our God ,I think you just lost yourself,please dont preach about peace.
"As far as Mosab I truly believe he thought long and hard about the God of Quran, the God of the Old Testament and the God of the Christian faith. Mosab saw a little difference between the first two Gods "Eye for Eye and tooth for tooth" and the Christian God who taught us to" love our ennemy" To any thinking person the later God is more like a God at least to me too. The contradiction in the Surahs of Quran are so evident and a muslim can believe in either side and based on this choice they could be extremist or not."
The above observation made by George appears to be correct .
This guy has no sense of sense in him... more than half of the time he din't know what he was saying.. its sad... CNN likes to air such people... just like Judaism, Christianity, Islam is also a religion.. whether anyone likes it or not.... no God of any religion would teach terrorising others... its humans and the devil within them who create stories like Musab did. Its all about how to acknowledge information you receive .... nothing much to say Mr Musab... but Islam also teaches to love your enemy... read the Quran .. understand it... then show urself to the world... you r as ignorant as one can be! Coz there is only 1 God.. and no matter how many religions you change.. the fact remains a fact.. its the same God you go to every time....
He is obviously paid to say these things as PR for the West. If he fell in love with the Jewish morals, when and who coverted him to Christianity? Why didn't he become a Jew? This is why he couldn't remember when he converted. An obvious Israeli scheme to win the affections of Christians and to get them to side with them against Muslims!!! Islam means "peace!" Just read the book before you let a trader to all people guide your thinking!
I don't care for his spying. But I do think his comments about "Quran's God" were nothing but blasphemous and I condone him for being stupid or speaking for his masters; but Amanpour's response was also not intelligent. Don't you know that the God in Quran is the same as that in the Bible and that in the Torah. He shouldn't have been allowed this leverage.
Hello, Mr Jihad.
Study Quran 9:29 in its correct context, and there can be only one correct conclusion: The author-controller of Quran 9:29 and, therefore, the complete Quran and true-Islam could only be and indeed still is, warring-against-holy-true-Allah, Satan.
Stating the above truth out of genuine love for Muslims, who are most cruelly deceived by self-admitting best-deceiver, Satan aka true-Islam's allah.
Allah means "illah" which is the actual word that Jesus peace be upon called God. Muslims are calling God what Jesus called him. Arabic is derived from Aramaic, again the language that Jesus pbuh spoke. Be knowledagable and leave your hatred aside. Please to all of the people who really just want to know if Muslims follow Satin, just read the Koran–open the book–any page and you will learn that much of what you hear have been lies and that Allah is the same God that sent Adam, Abraham, Moses, Solomon, Jesus and yes people Muhammad peace be upon them all. The Koran is the ONLY holy book that has a whole chapter praising the Virgin Mary! It is called Surah Mariam– the chapter of Mary. Did FOX news or Mosab the spy who the Muslims and Jews both ignore now mention this. If he was really a Chrisitian, he would have remembered Surah Mariam.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD FOR ALL MANKIND -HE IS THE SAME!
Let the world know that this is the time that Jesus Pbuh told us about in his teachings, IN ORDER TO GUARD OUR FAITH..... "that towards the end of the world, many such false prohets shall come in the pretext of his gospel, so many will be fooled by them". IN ESSENCE...
And let us also remember that we have witnessed so many (1000's) of converts to Islam from 100's of faiths&countries, also on CNN; we saw some christians, some jews&from various religions, creeds, races&nations.But not one of them dared speak in such crude terms, with utter disrespect of their former faiths,nor did former muslims who also may have converted to other faiths or religions did, as did this little devil about his own race, creed, struggle, people, faith, practices & religion.
There wasnt a even a hint of remorse, regret or respect in his voice!
lt was All Fabricated & very well rehearsed sewage.
l will quote Helen on her post Plz see above post :-
"He is obviously paid to say these things as PR for the West. If he fell in love with the Jewish morals, when and who coverted him to Christianity? Why didn't he become a Jew? This is why he couldn't remember when he converted. An obvious Israeli scheme to win the affections of Christians and to get them to side with them against Muslims!!! Islam means "peace!" Just read the book before you let a trader to all people guide your thinking!"Thank you Helen....!!!
Additionally, lets set money, fortune and fame aside; how can anyone comprehend or believe that an arab- palestinian & muslim, tortured & humiliated, maybe even physically or mentally raped & molested by years of solitary con- fine-ment in an israeli jail; who immediately upon
his release from prison, overnight be made into a "super-spy" & hero; for both the christians & jews be credible & taken seriously???
Seriously, Barone.
QURAN'S SURAH 9:29 "Fight against those who 1) believe not in Allah, 2) nor in the Last Day, 3) nor forbid that has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), 4) and those who who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Paraphrased: (** O Muslims) Fight (to kill) those (**especially Jews and Christians) who reject Islam. However should such persons who reject Islam do regularly pay up (** gangster) Jizyah (** bribe/protection/extortion money), in exchange for my license for them to continue to, very importantly, submissively/subduedly reject Islam – protect them from getting killed by you (** Jizyah bribe/protection/extortion money collecting Muslims).
A) DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE TO – or B) ABSOLUTELY SAME WITH – the Author-Controller of BIBLE'S EXODUS 23:8 "And you shall not take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the clear-sighted and subverts the cause of the just." ?
"A", or "B", Barone?
Do you now understand why Mosab Hassan Yousef had, in the interview, very correctly labelled the god of Islam to be gangster god?
Additionally, l'd like to ask those with common sense&undecieved
Would a jew take a palestinian man, naked&crucified on the cross as as god, besides THE ALMIGHTY JAHWEH Or ALLAAH? Then how or why should a palestinian take a jew (his sworn enemy) as his god?
l would like to caution my muslim, jewish & christian bretheren, to be vigilant & careful of this satanic plot to create & follow yet another evil imposter&false prophet who speaks in his masters tongues; plotting to creat discord, more violence & wars between them.
Let not the true followers of Moses, Jesus&Mohammad (phuh) fall prey to yet another zionist/satanic plot to decieve the true believers.
ln Last 2years or so, the zionist archeologists came up with amazing plot, that they discovered the tomb of Jesus, Mary the Virgin, Joseph & Judah and Mary Magdalene, with all their skeleton bones intact.
Paul, Freud, Jung, Piaget, Pavlov, Singer, Karl Marx, Darwin& Einstein are just few Famous-Jewish-Mass-Hypnotists, who helped shape the western & christian mentality, mostly by misinterpreting, monopolizing & reversing all noble sciences, ancient wisdom & INCLUDING Biblical knowledge.
The chosen people have now chosen to blaspheme The ALMIGHTY using one very vulnerable, weak, totally brainwashed&lied to by them &confused boy; to go against everything sacred, holy&true;as well as his very existence trading it for temporary fortune&fame@ the expense of the miseries of his own people & religion.....
Creating an anti-christ!
As to my critic above 'truthandtruthonly"; lm very happy to address all your concerns & questions as eloquently as l can; firstly Sura 9:29;
should not be taken literally as a blanket license to kill or declare war against anyone, the principle of lslam clearly stresses that "there is no compulsion in religion";.
Therefore, war can only be justified against those who attack us; or persecute us, invade our lands&against those who oppose the ways of GOD through violent means or wars&against all the conspirators & transgressors against humanity.
Jizyah is only paid by people of any other religion residing in muslim lands, in order to have full protection & full legal representation even against other muslims.
Let it be clear, that one cannot be a muslim unless he believes in all the older revelations; ie; the old testament, the psalms&the gospels, additionally he must also believe in holy prophets, the holy angels & the day of judgement.
The christians have invaded&colonized almost all continents, reaped havoc, chaos, bloodshed, anihilated tribesmen of 100's of civilizations in the name of the bible; read "the protestant ethic&spirit ofcapitalism" by Max Weber.
Hi Barone,
Your "Additionally, l'd like to ask those with common sense & undecieved ... ."
Truly fortunate, indeed – that there were/are billions of non-Muslims (including Mosab Hassan Yousef) who rejected/reject (no-Allah, warring-against-holy-true-Allah) Islam's bogus-allah, genuine-Satan, who very proudly declares himself to be "the best of deceivers".
QURAN 3:54 But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena).
QURAN 7:99 Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish.
Truly tragic, indeed – the millions upon millions of souls who had died believing and the still growing numbers of more than 1.4 billion persons who are still believing, that their (QURAN 9:29 gangster Jizyah bribe/extortion/protection money scheming) Islam's allah was/is Allah.
My dear truth&truthonly,
l dont think you had the chance to read my post in response to your earlier attack on my comments. U also seem to be very well versed in matters biblical & very good at quoting the Quraan out of its context to suit your arguements&most persistent on a hot debate of tossing insults at your own CREATOR.
Fortunately, l dont enjoy the same privilidge of those who deliberately & knowingly insult prophets & GOD in order to provoke the wrath of THE ALMIGHTY.
May you be well guided before its too late... Amin
It is one of the hallmarks of a true believer of The TRUE LIVING GOD, that he/she should have respect for other Prophets & Holy Books, like Muslims do.
A true muslim can never toss insults at Moses, David or Jesus peace & blessings of ALLAH be upon them, coz we give to them the same reverence accorded to our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh.
Finally, muslims are the truest & better followers of Jesus pbuh, than the so called christians; in that we do exactly as did Jesus Pbuh, in all aspect, deeds, meaning & essence of the word, intention & actions:-
Jesus was circumcised, muslims do it as religious ritual of Abraham.
Jesus never ate pig meat, who lived by the laws of moses like we do.
Jesus made abulution (washing for every prayer) exactly like we do.
Jesus never drank alcohol, only turned water to nectar(heavenly-drink).
Jesus fasted 30+10=40days not nights, exactly like all muslims do.
Jesus left his shoes out of synagogue, muslims out of the mosque.
Jesus used to make prostration in all his prayers like muslims do.
Jesus worshipped One Living GOD not 3; like all the muslims do.
Jesus used to curse satan in all his prayers, like all muslims do.
Jesus never pertook a statue of himself, mother, angels or GOD as his medium or point of worship.....Muslims do all of the above.. While Christians do none of the above. So who is the true follower of Jesus?
He followed the 10 Commandments of The OLD TESTAMENT-said:
"Thou shall not take a god before GOD; nor take a god after GOD; nor make graven images of GOD";.
With this commandment, l shall now go to make abulution to say my morning prayers in prostration to THE ONE LIVING GOD; to fulfill HIS Promise to send down HIS Servant Jesus Son Of The Virgin to judge those who have shone injustice, conflict, bloodshed, cruel wars & to those who persecuted the true believers amongst his people. Amin
May Peace Reign on the face of this Earth..... Amin
Hi, Barone.
Thank you for your March 10th, 2010 2100 GMT post.
truthandtruthonly is also very happy to encourage you to google (mainstream) Islamic doctrine of "NASKH, ABROGATION", under which (the later 2nd last of the Medinan 622-623 AD period's 24 suras) Sura 9:29 – ABROGATES the earlier 1st of the Median 622-623 AD period's 24 suras) Sura 2:256's "there is no compulsion in religion".
Ya, ever crafty/deceptive (ISO, Islamic Standards Organization) war doctrine of Islam/Muslims being justified in attacking those who attack Islam/Muslims; or persecute Islam/Muslims, invade our Islam'Muslim lands – & against "those who oppose the ways of GOD through violent means or wars &against all the conspirators & transgressors against humanity".
Who attacked whom FIRST, in Mecca?
A) Muhammad & the author-controller of Islam FIRST, attacking the non-Muslims there and their religious beliefs – or B) the non-Muslims & their religious beliefs FIRST, attacking Muslims and Islam?
Who attacked whom FIRST, in respect to the so-called "Crusade war"?
A) The Islamic clerics directed Muslim bandits FIRST, most routinely and viciously attacking Jewish, Christian and Roman Catholic pilgrims on their pilgrimages to Bethlehem and Jerusalem – or B) the Jewish, Christian and Roman Catholic pilgrims FIRST, attacking the Muslims?
SURE, Jizyah is only paid by people of any other religion residing in Muslim lands, in order to have full protection & full legal representation even against the very Jizyah collecting Muslims – who are required by Islam's author-controller to persecute and, wherever and whenever possible, oppress, subjugate, kill non-Muslims who refuse to pay Jizyah or to be dhimmis (kindly also google, "DHIMMI, DHIMMITUDE" to know more).
"One cannot be a muslim unless he believes in all the older revelations; ie; the old testament, the psalms & the gospels, additionally he must also believe in holy prophets, the holy angels & the day of judgement"?
Well, shoudn't Mohammad's Muslims then voluntarily submit under the "Muslims of Jesus Christ, Son of Allah, Allah" – that the Muslims of Mohammad's Islam's allah THEN and TODAY had/has NO old testament, psalms & the gospels to show, IN DIRECT CONTRAST to the "Muslims of Jesus Christ, Son of Allah, Allah" who do?
The christians have invaded & colonized almost all continents, reaped havoc, chaos, bloodshed, anihilated tribesmen of 100's of civilizations in the name of the bible; read "the protestant ethic & spirit of capitalism" by Max Weber?
The "christians" who did what they did in the above, A) pleased/delighted/honored bogus-allah Islam's allah, his "final prophet after Jesus Christ" Mohammad, and Mohammad's companions (disciples) – or B) pleased/delighted/honored Jesus Christ, Son of Allah and His disciples and apostles ?
How many did Jesus Christ, Son of Allah, Allah and his disciples and apostles kill? How many did Mohammad and his companions (disciples) kill? How many Christian missionaries today were killed by Muslims over the last ten years? How many Muslim missionaries today are killed by Christians over the last ten years?
Dear O dear Barone,
Your "U also seem to be very well versed in matters biblical & very good at quoting the Quran out of its context to suit your arguements&most persistent on a hot debate of tossing insults at your own CREATOR" in your March 11th, 2010 123 GMT post.
Truly interesting that Muslim posters in forums all over should all accuse, allege, complain, protest that those non-Muslim (who know enough of the Quran in context, with thanks to Islam's approved Hadiths) are "deliberatelt quoting the Quran out of context" – with such Muslim posters ending up being shown to be the ones who are deliberately trying to quote their Quran out of context to non-Muslims.
Absolutely interesting too, that Muslim posters who accuse, allege, complain, protest that (knowing enough about the Quran in the right context quoting) Christian posters "were tossing insults at their own CREATOR" – do ALWAYS evading engaging truthful counters from Christians on why it is Islam's bogus allah, his Mohammad and their Islam who are the ones GUILTY of insulting holy true Allah the CREATOR.
Outrageous slanders and insults by Islam, to slander holy true Allah as having been incompetent, non-caring and non-loving:
a) "for having so failed in protecting and preserving His Bible and therefore, to need bogus-allah's Mohammad, Islam, Quran and Hadiths" to serve as "final prophet, final religion, final perfect scripture" for humankind;
b) by their "insisting that holy true Allah's would/could NEVER so love humankind enough, to send His Son Jesus Christ to die in full and complete payment for the eternal redemption of persons who would so respond to His sacrificial sin payment;
c) by their further branding holy true Allah standard of sacrifice as being of sub-standard, though their insisting that holy true Allah had Abraham to place Ishmael (Abraham's son through his housemaid Hagar), who he could always so easily replace with many more sons from Hagar or from his hundreds of his other virgin housemaids – INSTEAD of Isaac (Abraham's son through his wife, Sarah, who waited for so long before Abraham and her could conceive him, as promised by holy true Allah) – for sacrifice on the altar by him (Abraham); and
d) etc, etc. Kindly let yours truly know, should you want more.
My dear Barone,
An unwitting human typo-error on your part – or a Genesis 3:1 "subtil" serpent Satan inspired craft in altering text, you have been trained in?
Your "...Jesus fasted 30+10=40days not nights, exactly like all muslims do" (in your March 11th, 2010 123 GMT).
Matthew 4:2 "And when He (**Jesus Christ) had fasted FORTY DAYS and FORTY NIGHTS, He was afterward an hungred."
Barone,
You said it well! More people like you should represent Muslims because that is the truth behind Islam (something the planners of evil do not want people to know). Islam is a peaceful religion regardless what a few want to portray to the world.
The Qur'an says, "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah (God) and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an, 2:62)
And, the Qur'an also states, "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." (Qur'an, 2:256)
The above verses of Quran is plain evidence to all that Islam does not preach "go out and force everyone to convert to Islam" because the followers of the original form of Christianity and Judaism are on the right path which is instrumental with Islam. ...beacause it ISSS the same religion of Allah,
"truthand truthonly" with a very deceiving name is trying so hard to pull things out of context in order to continue to scare people. I wonder why this agenda seems to be the top of his to do list. May Allah guide such devoted people to the real "truth."
Dear Helen,
Thank you for your support & kind words, l hope we can work towards bridging the sister religions on a more solid & compatible foundation.
lndeed, true muslims, christians&jews are never in conflict & almost 90% in agreement with each other. They have coexisted&cohabitated & in many cases cooperated in many fields in4continents, for the last 1600years. And very true to their fundamental principles of their faiths.
The problems have always been with the fanatics, lunatics, radicals& fundamentalists amongst them.
l also hope that the amanpor blog censorship board will act more like honest brokers & arbitrators in allowing some of our hard core truths to be voiced, consistent with their true human & unbiased principles.
Thank you to CNN & and thank you Christianne for this platform.
Dear Helen,
Your March 12th, 2010 2310 GMT post's "...'truthand truthonly' with a very deceiving name is trying so hard to pull things out of context in order to continue to scare people. I wonder why this agenda seems to be the top of his to do list. May Allah guide such devoted people to the real 'truth.'"
If you would answer the follow questions which your Barone has been avoiding any honest answering, please.
1. A) True or B) false – and, why? "Out of context"? What should the correct context be, according to QURAN 9:29?
a) The author-controller of QURAN'S SURAH 9:29 "Fight against those who 1) believe not in Allah, 2) nor in the Last Day, 3) nor forbid that has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), 4) and those who who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" – LICENSES his followers to (whenever & wherever they get succeed in doing) kill Jews and Christians who openly:
i) refuse to acknowledge bogus-allah him as holy true Allah, his Mohammad as holy true Allah's prophet, his Islam as holy true Allah's religion for humankind today, his Quran as holy true Allah's replacing scripture; and
ii) refuse to accept dhimmitude under Islam and Muslims.
b) The same author-controller of QURAN 9:29 (and, therefore, the Quran and his Islam) in his QURAN 9:29 LICENSES his same followers to, however, protect Jews and Christians, if any, who would submit:
i) to subduedly (instead of openly) reject him, his Islam and his Quran; and
ii) to being dhimmis, under him, his Islam and his Muslims
– so long and as long as such Jews and Christians do regularly pay GANGSTER Jizyah extortion/protection to him and his same Muslims, for protection from getting killed, by him and his same Muslims.
2. The author-controller of QURAN 9:29 is obviously A) THE SAME author controller as with or B) DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE to the author-controller of – the Bible's EXODUS 23:8 "And you shall not take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the clear-sighted and subverts the cause of the just." ?
To Barone and Helen,
The comments posed by myself are not meant to be confrontational. But after reading some of the comments posted by both Barone and Helen, all you have is your pre-suppositions or views regarding Mosab. But that's all they are, is; pre-suppositions. Do you think Mosab has painted a target on himself for the sake of Shin Bet and the fortunes that they have paid him. I think you would be surprised that what he got paid would not nearly be enough to betray religion of origin and heritage. Do you think he is brainwashed enough to put his life at risk.
Is there no possibility, and not allow ourselves to comprehend the fact that the decisions he made in his life could of been the result of experience's he really did feel. Or are we not open-minded enough to look at all sides prior to posting our pre-suppositions with such speed and assertiveness. It is like you both are demanding Mosab to be true to the fundamental principals of the Quran and Islamic faith, as evidenced by your written assertions to this platform. All written with authoritative undertones.
Barone, they are not sister religions and again I am not trying to be confrontational; I just want to say that God cannot be the same God to Islam and the Bible at the same time. The Quran and the Bible do not have the same author.
And yet I believe, that we are all created by the same God.
Dear Barone,
Your March 13th, 2010 022 GMT post's "lndeed, true muslims, christians&jews are never in conflict & almost 90% in agreement with each other."
How should Americans and the world respond to US dollars that are "almost 90% in agreement with each other"?
A) All are same, same genuine US dollars? B) Or, one or more amongst them must be counterfeits?
How should any serious minded person respond to religions that are "almost 90% in agreement with each other"?
A) All are religions from same, same genuine holy true Allah? B) Or, one or more of them must definitely be counterfeits?
"A" or "B" – dear O dear Barone (and Helen)?
ln The Holy Names Of GOD Of Abrahim, Moses, Jesus & Mohammad.
dearest Ms Amanpour,
Plz dont censor my last response to "truth and truth only"; it is very important that all readers have access to my soft & civilized response.
lm sure even as a christian you enjoy my posts, though at times a bit of a bitter pill to swallow!!!!
But your illustrious blog has ignited a soft & wonderful platform for civilized debate... Therefore, l plead & urge all concerned to act as unbiased& honest arbitrators in order that all the truth may eventually be revealed amicably&congenial to all essences of our 3sister faiths
With fragrances of the highest celestial splendors,
l remain cordially,
Barone
Dear Christiane,
l hope you are not in support of its actions, nor are you acting as your own blog censorship board..So either we express our thoughts freely & honestly or we become hypocrites; or do we have another choice?
It is my belief, that most true muslims who have basic knowledge of Islam, Quraan&Hadiths must know, that killing of any innocent being, is haraam!! It even includes game-hunting which is also forbidden.....
The only justification or consideration for suicide mission of any kind, must be very carefully calculated not to include any innocent person.
ln this context l can only use the occupation of Palestinian, Afghani & Iraqi examples as excuses for suicide missions, is when desparate freedom fighters have no other options against a foreign invading and mightier army. Thus These missions must be limited & only justified& directed only@invading military-active personel, camps&installations.
Anyone who kills innocent bystanders or civilians is a murderer.....
lf occupation of any land by foreign troops occurs, l wish that all future missions will not include any civilian casualities. Unfortunately, the only way to stop these missions is to end occupation & injustice.
l sincerely wish these fatwas will help to bring awareness among the muslims on the consequences of their actions, and to think 100times before they take their own lives in vain; or inflict harm,bloodshed,pain or kill innocent bystanders.
Terrorism&suicide has never been a solution to any crisis nor conflict.
Nor has "shock & awe" or "target-ass-ass-inations" by air or drones!!
But then again, as they say "all in war is fair"!!!!
Dear Barone and Helen,
Your (Barone's) "March 13th, 2010 022 GMT's opening line of:
"Dear Helen, Thank you for your support & kind words, l hope we can work towards bridging the sister religions on a more solid & compatible foundation...."
Would either one you or the both of you DARE/CARE to support your "kind" words" and noble (or ignoble) endeavour of "bridging the sister religions" of Christianity and Islam – so as to support your claim on a more solid & compatible foundation?
That (by what you, Barone, had implied, Christianity and Islam are "sister religions" (that is, they both are of and from the same Allah the Father) – HOW THEN could the "same Father Allah" who (according to Islam and its Muslims) HAS kept the Quran "completely intact and uncorrupted", BUT NOT the Bible?
Thank you.
To Yeah Right,
In reference to the meaning of the Israeli flag, this is a myth that originated with the Palestinian people and is very well documented; namely the Arab leadership. These persistent, and completely false declarations, that the two blue stripes of the Israeli flag symbolize the Nile and the Euphrates, while in fact they are taken from the stripes of the Jewish praying shawl.
Saqr Abu Fakhr, an Arab writer, has also spoken out against this idea. He demonstrates that the "Nile to Euphrates" claim regarding the flag is a popular misconception and/or myth about Jews which, despite being unfounded and having abundant evidence refuting them, continue to circulate in the Arab world; it is taught to Arab children as fact.
It is these myths that people like you circulate, which in turn cause's real damage if peaceful relations are to begin.
Atrocities have happened from both sides; and in the struggle for peace, misleading myths eg: flag of Israel; spouted off by people like yourself, do not help in any situation. It does confirm one thing though, your close-mindedness endorse's the fact that conflict should continue without resolve.
Dear Christiane.
Thank you for having broadcasted your interview with Mr Yousef.
It is easy to know who are after and who are fearing truth.
1.I am sorry that I couldn't post sooner but I do have a family and a profession to attend to. This conversation has been productive, or at least I think so. My intention is not to keep debating with anyone who doesn't agree with me but I do "care" to quote "truthand truthonly" to correct many of the false statements that you are posting. I am 100% sure that you are cutting and pasting comments off of Islam bashing websites and not from the actual Quran. I googled A couple of the key words that you mentioned and the exact quotes you have popped up in a few different place. Read the Quran if you want to really learn the truth and the truth only.
2.I urge you and others who really do want to learn that Islam is a peaceful religion by reading the SOURCE–the Quran and the ways of life of the Final Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Please do not ask anyone to explain people's intrepretations, even if is written by Muslims. You do not judge a car by a wreckless driver, you judge it by the source–the quality and making of the car itself.
3. You mentioned "jizyah"– If you are an American citizen or a citizen of other countries–Do you not have to pay taxes? What are those taxes for? Aren't they to cover police, hospitals, education,etc. Jizyah=Taxes
Jizyah was forced on non Muslims because Muslims already have a MANDATED OBLIGATION as one of the 5 pillars to pay ZAKAT each year to help their community and socitey (2.5% of income must be paid to help the poor and needy and constant "sadaqah" to community each year). Read the Quran and you will see that!
4. Read the GOSPEL of BARNABAS which is a Chirstian documentaion written by one of the close followersand apostles of Jesus peace be upon him that proves that Islam and Christianity are sister religions and are identical in fundamental beliefs. Ask you church for a copy or google it–excerpts are one the web.
MusIims are being urged to come out and speak about how Islam is a peaceful religion and when they doe like Barone and myself, some people get bothered by that. You would rather have people think it is a radical reliogion-Well not true at all!!!
Dear Barone and Helen.
The BUKHARI HADITH is a major hadith that is deemed to be very essential for important understanding of the Quran. It is a hadith that is ranked very highly by the Islamic clerics whom the Islamic world approves to be custodians of Islam's most sacred shrines in Saudi Arabia.
The following is the complete quote from:
Bukhari Hadith Volume 1 Book 6 Number 299:
Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:
(on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's
Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha
added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet
could."
QUESTION, in respect to Bukhari Hadith Volume 1 Book 6 Number 299 :
Who NEEDED to commission (with no prior record of fondling, when he was not yet a a Muslim) Mohammad, for his conversion into being his fondler of women in menses best-Muslim cum "final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ"?
A) the SAME holy true Allah, who HAD WAY BACK MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY AGO ,sent sinless Jesus Christ to the world, or – B) warring against holy true Allah, counterfeiting after holy true Allah, Islam's allah whom Mosab very correctly labelled "GANGSTER god" in the interview ?
Thank you.
Dear Helen,
1. Referring to your March 14th, 2010 1551 GMT post's:
a) Your para 1: Kindly detail the QURAN verses which yours truly had cited from the QURAN, WERE NOT quotes from the Quran or WERE NOT accurately and truthfully presented.
b) Your para 2: Any "MORE RELIABLE SOURCES" for the Quran – than the QURAN itself, its claiming to be holy true Allah author-controller Islam's (GANGSTER Jizyah extortion money scheming, and the records in the QURAN and in Islam's APPROVED hadiths of the person conduct of claiming to be "final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" Mohammad?
c) Your para 3: How would you and Muslims across the respond to any NON-MUSLIM country:
i) that REQUIRES its NON-MUSLIM citizens/residents to pay to that non-Muslim country, its non-Muslim income tax – with the MUSLIM citizens/residents in that same country to pay to that non-Muslim country, that non-Muslim country's SPECIFIC non-Muslim tax for Muslims in that country (to fund its non-Muslims' PROTECTING of non-Muslim tax for Muslims paying Muslims, from getting killed, BY THE SAME non-Muslim tax collectors of that country's special non-Muslim tax for Muslims;
ii) AND WITH 1/8 of the tax it collects from its non-Muslim citizens being exclusively used for its "non-Muslim version of Jihad (against Islam and Muslims specifically)"?
d) Your para 4: "Gospel of Barnabas"? That "gospel of Barnabas" whose authorship of the "orignal gospel of Barnabas" had long since been authoritatively established – to be in a language style that emerged HUNDREDS of years AFTER the death of Jesus' disciple, Barnabas?
2. Your kind response to each of the above, please.
3. Thank you.
My Dear Helen, (and Barone)
Maybe it is you that needs to research the "Gospels of Barnabas" a little better. You are highly selective; and whether it was in ignorance or possibly deceit you seek to validate your position. In other words, you either do have the knowledge in regards to "the gospels of Barnabas" where it has been confirmed by many scholars that in a lot of key respects, it conforms to the Islamic interpretation of Christian origins and contradicts the New Testament teachings of Christianity. So you have welcomed everybody to do research; google it then Helen, and tell me what you come up with. Start by googling "Gospel of Barnabas" wikipedia.org amongst many websites; all confirming early Islamic influence and interpretation from the earliest known manuscript circa, 17th century. This is very convenient! Anyways, if you do your "due diligence" Helen; then I would like to hear from you again in reference to the "Gospels of Barnabas".
And I quote wikipedia:
The Mohammedans have also a Gospel in Arabic, attributed to St. Barnabas, wherein the history of Jesus Christ is related in a manner very different from what we find in the true Gospels, and correspondent to those traditions which Mohammed has followed in his Koran.
The Gospel of Barnabas was little known outside academic circles until recent times, when a number of Muslims have taken to publishing it in order to argue against the orthodox Christian conception of Jesus. It generally resonates better with existing Muslim views than with Christianity[39]: it foretells the coming of Muhammad by name; rather than describing the crucifixion of Jesus, it describes him being raised up into heaven. This work clearly contradicts the New Testament bibilical accounts of Jesus and his ministry but has strong parallels with the Islamic faith, not only mentioning Muhammad by name, but including the shahadah (chapter 39). It is strongly anti-Pauline and anti-Trinitarian in tone. In this work, Jesus is described as a prophet and not the son of God,[36] while Paul is called "the deceived". Furthermore, the Gospel of Barnabas states that Jesus escaped crucifixion by being raised alive to heaven; while Judas Iscariot the traitor was crucified in his place. These beliefs; in particular that Jesus is a prophet of God and raised alive without being crucified; conform with Islamic beliefs.
Helen, in spite of your "reassuring" words; the truth is that Islam has a bloody history. Starting with Muhammad who exemplified cruel and barbaric acts of violence in war to force feed Islam to fearing converts. In a way, Muhammad is an oxy-moron to his perceived "peaceful Quran". It is true that Christendom also has a bloody history. But the difference is Helen, that it was not a part of "Christian Theology" whereas Islam expanded through military conquest indoctrinated from the Quran. At least from the fundementalist Muslims point of view. And this point of view is rarely denounced from other Muslims (moderate or otherwise) until recently, where a 600 page fatwa was declared from an Islamic scholar. (which I have not read yet)
You say Islam is peaceful, then take a step forward and start denouncing "radical fundamentalist portrayers" of Islam. Maybe even on this forum. There is no use of looking in somebody else's backyard, to pre-suppose how messy it is, when your own backyard is in need, of much dire attention!
Dear Christiane
Has anyone wondered why counterfeiters would proclaim all currencies, fake and genuine, are the same. Has anyone wondered why the God of all creation, who can destroy and create at will, would need others to detroy for him. Has anyone wondered why the God of all creation would want to create things, particular human beings in His image, and then destroy them. Has anyone wondered why the God of all creation would need to lie and hide behind aliases to get what He wants. Has anyone wondered why the God of all creation need to be anything but naturally all loving, all gracious, all merciful and just (to name some of His attributes) – even to the point of offering His Son as a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world so that we abject humans, can become holy as He is holy (by sincerely confessing His Son as Lord and Saviour and, thereby, acknowledging His act of redemption and love) so as to be able to unite with Him in heaven. Has anyone wondered why a sculpture needs a sculptor. Has anyone wondered if we sinful imperfect humans can make ourselves sinless and perfect where is the need for God of all creation. Won't we be God if not greater. Think! Think! & Think!
Not posting some of these comments & posts by some of us, goes to show that you are furthering the zionist agenda as your own. Thus your journalistic reputation&wonderful professional achievements over the years will be highly questionable. Additionally your beloved audiences, like myself will have little or no trust nor respect to your person nor your journalistic achievements.
These posts will be sent to all muslim countries, agencies&networks both in the private & government sectors to show what is the true face of Amanpour& what was CNN's agenda when they did Son Of hamas interview??? l will not stop to launch a crusade against any platform or network that allows sick morons to toss insults at GOD or religion, without giving its adherents to defend their faiths, GOD or themselves.
Therefore, if l am mistaken, l hope that this post & the ones u blocked or edited earlier will be soon be moderated&posted as those of other morons who are hell-bent on tasting the torments of the lowest abyss.
If you are sincere about ending terrorism,you should allow moderates like myself to at least honestly articulate our beliefs&frustrations with both the western networks&systems in order to win over our heartsas to help you further your cause.
Or Is this your version of true democracy&freedom of speech. Just to turn our cheecks, or stay idle, do nothing when&insulted by morons?
Absolutely spot-on, Jack Keano. .
Helen, Barone and every Muslim or non-Muslim apologist for GANGSTER Islam should also need THINK, THINK & THINK through the following:
HOW COME the ABSENCE of any record in the Bible, in the Quran, in Islam's approved hadiths, of Jesus Christ needing to fondle or having fondled any woman in menses or not in menses?
And, HOW COME the MANY records in ISLAM'S APPROVED HADITHS, of Islam's (GANGSTER bogus) allah commissioned "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" Mohammed's addiction, to fondling women in menses?
Which HAD TO BE and WAS the case?
A) Holy true Allah needing to commission, convert and deploy Mohammad to be his "final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" cum addict to fondling women in menses (among Mohammad's MANY other addictions, PROUDLY recorded and celebrated in Islam's Quran and APPROVED hadiths); or
B) warring-against-holy-true Allah, bogus-allah, genuine-Satan most desperately needing to commission, convert and deploy his carefully chosen Mohammad, to be his "final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" cum addict to fondling women in menses (among Mohammad's many other addictions, PROUDLY recorded and celebrated in Islam's Quran and APPROVED hadiths).
Dear Muslims and non-Muslim apologists for Islam,
Umar Farouq Maina's March 2nd, 2010 2040 GMT's lines of ".....He (***Mosab Hassan Yousef) has made claims to which he has no proof of and I strongly believe he is still an agent of Shin Bet. He has made himself an enemy of muslims ..... . "
Any additional proof you may need (from your Quran, your Islam's approved hadiths or, should you prefer, from the Bible) – on why your self-admitting BEST-DECEIVER true-Islam's author-controller, is THE TRUE ENEMY of EVERY Muslim (and non-Muslim)?
Dear Christiane Amanpour,
Sharing with you and all readers the first stanza of Christian hymn, "Morning Has Broken", originally appeared in the second edition of Songs of Praise (published in 1931), to the tune "Bunessan", arranged by the composer Martin Shaw. Words by Eleanor Farjeon:
"Morning has broken, like the first morning
Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning
Praise for the springing fresh from the word......"
Morning has indeed broken, despite all the woes brought on by true-Islam's author-controller.
This is my final posting due to the complete and utter lack of respect for any person of faith, morality, and values. If you do not wish to understand but your only intent is to deface and insult Muslims, I do not think this respectful site was for you. I think the FOX News website is more suiting for you.
To Wes D–I think that you either skimmed through the postings I have added too quickly or did not care to comprehend that I do as all Muslims and YES the QURAN completely forbid and totally condemns all radical acts of terror. People who do this whether under the banner of Islam or Christian Groups or Cults or whatever are not true to any religion! Judge all things by the source–not by perpatrators who claim to be of that group. Don't take words out of context and use them to try to make a point!
I added my thoughts to do my part to allow people to hear the Muslim voice that shouts out that Islam is a peaceful religion that has been around since 500 years aftter Jesus first arrival to Earth–with the same, unchanged book–the Holy Quran.
My comments are to the true open minded people who want to learn about this religion that is being discussed and defaced day in and day out for the simple purpose that everyone knows–OIL!
My desire is not to go back and forth with the likes of truthandtruthonly who now wants to shift the discussion from the possiblity that the Islam, Judaism, and Chritianity are sister religions to "fondling." Your true colors have shown with your words. People like you are not worth the dialogue because you have an agenda to bash, trash, disrespect, and scare people–you kind of sound like Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck.
I leave the open minded with this final question: If Islam really preached terror, why has this so called Terror Religion only come to life since the Bush administration mainly the Cheney Regime took office and not from 1500 years ago which is when Islam was completed by the final messengerof the band of prophets?
Read the Quran if you want to see what Islam really teaches Muslims!
May Allah or in the similar word that dear Jesus (peace be upon him) spoke "illah" guide us all!!!
Peace be to all of you!
Assalam-aleikum
Hello, YEAH RIGHT !!!
Your March 4th, 2010 535 GMT's "seriously???? I do not believe a word this guy says. Hamas and Hezbollah threaten Israel? Hamas whose land is occupied? all those civilians who have been occupied by israel since 48, WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM ?"
How about calling it:
"LAND LONG GIVEN TO ISRAEL FOREVER BY GOD THROUGH ABRAM ( AND LATER, THROUGH THE LINE OF ISAAC) , WHICH SATAN (ISLAM'S AUTHOR-CONTROLLER, HAD EVER SINCE BEEN WANTING TO, AND HAD PERIODICALLY SUCCEEDED, IN WRESTING FROM ISRAEL (THE LAST PERIOD BEING THAT OF A.D.1948 MINUS A.D. 72 YEARS I.E. A PERIOD OF AROUND 1876 YEARS) – TILL MAY 14/15, 1948, WHEN THE JEWS VERY RIGHT;Y RECLAIM IT TO USHER IN MODERN ISRAEL)."
References: GENESIS 13, GENSIS 21.
NOT FORGETTING TOO, what Islam's very own Quran tells Muslims to do, whenever Muslims are in doubt over what to do:
QURAN 10:94 (HILAL-KHAN), "So if you (O MOHAMMAD) are in doubt .....We have revealed unto you the TAURAT (TORAH and the INJIL (GOSPEL), then ask those (JEWS & CHRISTIANS) who are reading the Book (TORAH & GOSPEL) before you. ..."
HELL-ooo, Helen.
Kindly refer to yours truly's March 12th, 2010 928 GMT's post to Barone of:
"My dear Barone,
An unwitting human typo-error on your part – or a Genesis 3:1 "subtil" serpent Satan inspired craft in altering text, you have been trained in?"
HELL-ooo, Helen.
You and Barone are siblings from the same SERPENT-FATHER in Genesis 3:1?
Kindly extract and post the actual lines from yours truly's post(s) which caused you to most craftily REWRITE it/them, into (QUOTING from your March 16th, 2010 424 GMT's post):
"My desire is not to go back and forth with the likes of truthandtruthonly who now wants to shift the discussion from the possiblity that the Islam, Judaism, and Chritianity are sister religions to 'fondling'.
REPEATING a question posed TO YOU AND BARONE in yours truly's
March 15th, 2010 021 GMT POST:
"QUESTION (***BARONE AND HELEN), in respect to Bukhari Hadith Volume 1 Book 6 Number 299 :
Who NEEDED to commission (with no prior record of fondling, when he was not yet a a Muslim) Mohammad, for his conversion into being his fondler of women in menses best-Muslim cum 'final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ'?
A) the SAME holy true Allah, who HAD WAY BACK MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY AGO (*** i.e. more than 500 years before Mohammad was born) ,sent sinless Jesus Christ to the world, or – B) warring against holy true Allah, counterfeiting after holy true Allah, Islam's allah whom Mosab very correctly labelled "GANGSTER god" in the interview ?"
HELL-ooo Helen.
You wrote that your March 16th, 2010 424 GMT would be your FINAL posting because you HAD or your HAD NOT been caught to be LYING (or, at best, PITIFULLY IGNORANT) by what you had posted ?
Dear O dear Helen.
ANOTHER A) LYING OR B) IGNORANT claim in your March 16th, 2010 424 GMT post?
YOUR "I leave the open minded with this final question: If Islam really preached terror, why has this so called Terror Religion only come to life since the Bush administration mainly the Cheney Regime took office and not from 1500 years ago which is when Islam was completed by the final messengerof the band of prophets?"
Kindly research AND REPORT on the NUMBERS OF LOCAL NON-MUSLIMS IN THE THEN NON-MUSLIM LANDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA, WHO WERE SLAUGHTERED – ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO, BEFORE BUSH AND CHENEY WERE BORN – BY (Quran 2:256 "no compulsion of religion", Quran 109 "to each his preferred religion", etc) spewing MOHAMMAD AND HIS COMPANIONS and (after his demise) by HIS COMPANIONS, INTO being the Muslim lands there are today.
HELL-ooo dear O dear Helen,,
Your line: "This is my final posting due to the complete and utter lack of respect for any person of faith, morality, and values. If you do not wish to understand but your only intent is to deface and insult Muslims...." in your March 16th, 2010 424 GMT.
Discerning and concerned members of the public and of the relevant lawful agencies who point out damning giveaways in counterfeits (be they, currencies, medicine, baby foods, fashion goods, aeroplane parts, RELIGIONS, and etc) are, TO YOU – A) PUBLIC SPIRITED members of the public and of the relevant lawful agencies, or B) MEAN SPIRITED members of the public and of the relevant lawful agencies, whose only intent "is to deface and to insult"?
ESPECIALLY when the persons who allege THE LATTER (i.e. "B") have CONSISTENTLY AVOIDED, EVADED, FAILED – despite all opportunities given – TO DISPROVE the FACT AND THE TRUTH that the giveaways are DEAD GIVEAWAYS, DAMNING THE COUNTERFEITS to be factually and truthfully COUNTERFEITS.
Dear Ms Helen,
These are sons&daughters of incestous devils; thus very poor souls.
Dont despair, the only remedy in dealing with hell-bent sons of devils is to ignore them completely, let them not upset, distract or frustrate our mission, we must continue to calmly educate the sincere seekers of truth amongst them.
We must not indulge in their filthy insult-tossing games&must remain firm in our noble faith&civilized ways. We have no right to blaspheme
Remember, The hallmark of a true believer is to turn the other cheek& ignore the devils; who's days are numbered; and they shall soon be devoured by a 3rd world war against each other, killer earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, volcanos, brimstone&thunder&shall reap the fruits of their insults here on earth&at the judgement table of ALLAH, whereat not even a hair of thought or a whisper will be left unjudged.
Our consolation comes from the True knowledge of GOD & Prophets.
As muslims&civilized people we have no right or permission to insult any faith, sanctity or even a truly sick (as in sickness of evil) person.
l attempted many times to address & defend myself & you against the sick insult-mongers, but lm always blocked,edited,quoted out context by the amanpour's blog censorship board..
They dont find space for our polite defensive posts, yet they have the space&audacity to allow these hell-bent sons of devils to insult GOD, prophets, Holy Books & poor defenseless individuals, whos' only fault is to seek peaceful&intellectual dialogue to achieve understanding & harmony and to even help them against terrorism & suicide bombers.
My only conclusion,that they too are of like-minds as the insult tossers &will never find peace or harmony as long as they persist on their hell-bent-evil-ways.
Infact they are not sincere@all about peace; because when wars stop it means loss of revenue by weapon factories&loss of breaking news; coz any time suicide missions take place anywhere in the world&the first to suspect is a muslim.
They feed on conflict; like their churches, it is very important that they continue to sin; otherwise all churches will be bankrupt if they stop. Fredrick Nietzche called their version of christianity "a religuion of sin".
Churches only prosper when there is conflict, wars & transgressions.
It takes the likes of Napoleon, Mussolini, Hitler, Churchill, Bliar & Bush2 teach them all about the benefits of peace. Just Like their economic, financial&industrial machines&systems; lt only feeds on war &conflict.
They will never recognize Peace even if it hits them on their faces!!!!
Dear O dear Barone (and dear O dear Helen),
Islam's APPROVED Bukhari Hadith Volume 1 Book 6 Number 296:
"Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur'an while I was in menses."
A) Proof of Islam's prophet Mohammad's addiction to menses fluid and odor – or, B) proof of Mohammad being "holy true Allah's needed final prophet AFTER Jesus Christ, for all humankind"?
"A" or "B"?
I couldn't stop my self because I just HAD to point out that while the so called "truthandtruthonly" was rambling on and on with his zionist hate mongering..... he actually served my PURPOSE by quoting the Glorious Quran that reveals that Quran tells Muslims to ask the People of the Book (meaning their original texts–Old Testament!) –Jews and Christians. If this was a different God ( a rival, counterfeit God) Why in the World would this rival God tell his followers to get advice and seek knowlege from their enemies.
To go on and quote the Quran- "When truth prevails, falsehood perishes–for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish." Even if the truth comes unexpectedly from the tongue of a misguided or disrespectful and nasty person .
Thanks truthand truthonly!! ,,Case closed!
As for their attempt to mix their pornograhic-obssessed-minds, what does fondling got to do with our topic debate of religion,son of hamas, fatwas against terror & suicide missions.????
Plz ignore their insults. There soon will come a people with mightier pens, tongues & swords from their own stock to deal with them justly.
Plz see my new posts on sexual abuses by the catholic church below:
Thank you for covering this highly controversial topic of sexual abuses against children&women by the clergy of both the catholic churches& glimpses of historic, geographic & social reasons & factors that have lead to these vile acts.
Since these abuses are not exclusive&limited to the catholics alone, l feel it would be fair to also cover abuses by other christian churches & sects, including other protestant denominations, either on infants, small children, adolescent homosexual men or on women&nuns.
l will also urge our beloved "Dame par Excellance" who l still have hope for her reversion&enlightenment through her own self-educating interview- programs & broadcasts that herself must be the ultimate beneficiary thereof; to conduct more interviews; especially scientific studies on the possible reasons4prohibition of pork&alcohol&with its correlations2high rates of illegitimate births, incest divorce, suicide, alcohol-ism,exhibitionism, homo-sexuality&violent crimes in the west .
Dear O dear Barone, Helen and company.
Which sin against holy true Allah is infinity greater, and why?
A) Helping Islam's author-controller bogus-allah to be promoted, believed, worshipped and protected as holy true Allah – or B) helping "melamine-enriched" milk to be promoted, believed, consumed and protected as wholesome milk.
ln the end its only about respect, trust, fair-trade with mutual benefits& on equal terms & the sharing of world natural resources inreciprocal & just terms without exploitation or imperial agendas.
This sharing of world natural resources justly, can be a good start; but only achievable when rich countries stop exploitation of poor nations' resources&people. Without interferring in their internal or regional politics&resources to suit their new world order & imperial agendas.
Peace is abstract&precious commodity, its experienced only by a few privilidged elites of this world. Even to them, it is well guarded & highly treasured commodity. To achieve true peace a nation/people must be at peace with itself, its people, its neighbors, friends & enemies alike.
The colonial powers, have over the past 200 years or more been in a conflict amongst themselves on how to divide up the world as part of their dominions, history of which is too well known to need repetition here.
But eversince the first discovery of oil in Iraq in the early 1900's:-
Discovery of oil in Iraq was the start of imperial conflicts leading to 2 World Wars, the consequences are still remnant today in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan; consequently, leading to the 3rd world war.
The fatwas may help to a certain extent, but when an angry, hungry, radical, hopeless&helpless occupied people, who have witnessed, poverty, ruin, bloodshed&injustice all their life; be they moderates, or fanatics, radicals, literate, illiterate or fundamentalists, with access to arms, will never heed to reason nor logic.
The only logic to them is armed struggle, to them thats the only way to liberate themselves from poverty, injustice, occupation, imperialism& proxy colonialism.
Especially if they are by-product of 60years of occupation, or civil wars, and consequences of regimes that had no respect for human rights nor compassion on their own citizens.
Therefore, only way to peace, justice&sharing of world resources is through, love of truth, (education=love of learning),end to occupation, justice, respect&building solid bridges of understanding & of trust.
WHEN A WORKER IS PAID HIS DUES BEFORE HIS SWEAT DRY-UP!
WHEN WORLD CITIZENS GET THEIR RIGHTS & DO THEIR DUTIES.
Dear O dear Helen (Barone and company).
Your March 17th, 2010 2157 GMT's line: "...he actually served my PURPOSE by quoting the Glorious Quran that reveals that Quran tells Muslims to ask the People of the Book (meaning their original texts–Old Testament!) –Jews and Christians. If this was a different God ( a rival, counterfeit God) Why in the World would this rival God tell his followers to get advice and seek knowlege from their enemies."
HELL-ooo Helen.
1. WHY did you ALTER your QURAN 10:94 (HILAL-KHAN)'s "So if you (O MOHAMMAD) are in doubt .....We have revealed unto you the TAURAT (TORAH and the INJIL (GOSPEL), then ask those (JEWS & CHRISTIANS) who are reading the Book (TORAH & GOSPEL) before you. ..." – into one of "So if you (O Mohammad) are in doubt ....We have revealed unto you the Taurat (Torah AND THE INJIL (GOSPEL), then ask those (Jews and Christians) who are reading the Gook (Torah and GOSPEL) before you..."?
2. Holy true Allah's Bible OLD TESTAMENT(GOSPEL, INJIL) A) is about holy true Allah's JEWISH FAITH for the Jews and to the world, through the Jewish Faith or B) is about holy true Allah's (Jewish Faith replacing) CHRISTIAN FAITH to the world?
3. "Why in the World would this rival God tell his followers to get advice and seek knowlege from their enemies", indeed ???
4. Why do you PRETEND NOT TO KNOW that GANGSTERS AND COUNTERFEITERS (especially gangsters and counterfeiters who think very highly of their gangstering and counterfeiting skills) DO SLICKLY "ENOURAGE" their audience to "check out with the real McCoys?
5. Thank you for having, yet again, fallen into yours truly's trap for the likes of you. 🙂 🙂 🙂
I think so much has been written on this subject that it is now becoming ridiculous. All muslim brothers and sisters should stop contributing and even reading any more of this blog because it is giving the enemies the opportunity to pour out their venom. I am going to do it as of now.
Hello Shabab Hasan.
You would A) AGREE or B) DISAGREE (with reasons why, please), that your exhorting your Muslim brothers and sisters to stop contributing to this blog and to also stop reading this blog, IS PRIMARILY DUE to you and your Muslim brothers and sisters HAVING NOTHING from your ISLAM'S QURAN and your ISLAM'S APPROVED HADITHS TO REBUT – WITHOUT having THE rebuttals CONSISTENTLY AND DECISIVELY REBUTTED by even more quotes from Islam's Quran and Islam's approved hadiths, CORRECTLY CONTEXUALIZED.
"A" or "B", and why – Shabab Hasan?
Sigh, Barone.
Your March 17th, 2010 2208 GMT's QUESTION: "...As for their attempt to mix their pornograhic-obssessed-minds, what does fondling got to do with our topic debate of religion,son of hamas, fatwas against terror & suicide missions.???? ..."
Yours truly's ANSWER:
1. You would of course PRETEND NOT to have watched that segment of that interview (broadcasted on TV) during which MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF declared "ISLAM'S gOD" to be "GANGSTER gOD".
2. QUESTION: OBVIOUSLY OBSESSED WITH/ADDICTED TO FONDLING WOMEN IN MENSES (among his many other documented obsessions/addictions) MOHAMMED, CAN ONLY BE the "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" – COMMISSIONED A) BY bogus-god/allah, GANGSTER gOD/SATAN, warring-against-holy-true-Allah/God, or B) BY HOLY TRUE GOD/ALLAH, warring-against-gangster-god/Satan?
3. Do you now know WHY MOHMMAD'S FONDLING OF WOMEN IN MENSES IS VERY RELEVANT to "our topic of debate of religion, son of hamas, fatwas against terror & suicide missions"?
Hi there staunch – hell – bent – christian-zionist – apologists&fondlers!!
4,000 abusive priests, in 20 countries &100s of 1000s of victims; over $2billion in financial compensation in last 50years; yet we are still discovering more cases of abuse at all levels of the clergy heirarchy...
Now a cover-up by the "vicar of the son of god"?
When will the sheep ever learn that their shephards will not only lead them to the slaughter-houses; but also to the hells lowest abyss!!
Oopsy, Barone.
Another CRUCIAL relevance MOHAMMAD's OBSESSION/ADDICTION to fondling, menses fluid/odor (among others) has, to our (QUOTING YOU) "TOPIC DEBATEtopic debate of religion,son of hamas, fatwas against terror & SUICIDE MISSIONS" (UNQUOTE)
HELPING Islam's (bogus) allah GANGSTER gOD's'aLLAH and his Muslims to PUBLICIZE those MENSES FLUID ODORIZED FONDLING PASSAGES IN THEIR Islam's APPROVED HADITHS, MUST SURELY BE HELPFUL OVER THE LONGER TERM – in having Muslims (and non-Muslims) REALISE, that BEING MUSLIMS (EVEN BEFORE BEING SUICIDE BOMBERS) is by itself 🙁 A 100% SURE-SUICIDE MISSION (with NO DOLE-EYED or otherwise; NO NUBILE or otherwise boys or girls, virgins or otherwise; AND NO PARADISE waiting for them).
HELL-ooo, Barone.
Your March 18th, 2010 2238 GMT's "....'Now a cover-up by the "vicar of the son of god'?"
VICAR WHO??? of the son of god?
Your "DISCOVERY" from the Bible?
WHERE in the Bible?
Name of BOOK(S), CHAPTER(S), VERSE(S) IN the Bible if you CAN/DARE, please.
MY O MY – BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, NARIMAN, Maina, FERNADO F !!!
Look at what Islam's author-controller, his Mohammed, (Mohammad's "most loved and best taught favorite wife" Aisha, Mr Bukhari, custodians of Islam's most sacred shrines in Saudi Arabia today and all agreeing Muslim individuals and authorities do MOST PROUDLY HAVE this below COMPLETE QUOTE FLAUNTED in their ISLAM-APPROVED BUKHARI HADITH Volume 1 Book 4 Number 229:
" Narrated 'AISHA:
'I used to wash the traces of JANABA (SEMEN) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible)."
Aisha was the A) best-taught or B) worst-taught, favorite wife – A) of
best-teacher or B) of worst -teacher, Mohammad – A) holy true Allah's final prophet or B) evil bogus-allah genuine-Satan's final prophet, to go around blabbering what she blabbered in the above?
"A", or "B" – and why?
Do you now understand why Mosab Hassan Yousef VERY WISELY AND CORRECTLY reject Islam and Islam's (according to Mosab Hassan Yousef very fair and accurate description in the interview) GANGSTER gOD – in his VERY COURAGEOUS ENDEAVOUR to save his parents, his family, his fellow Palestinians, Palestine, Muslims, and the world from Islam's GANGSTER gOD?
Hello – BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F.
Do most seriously think! Think!! THink!!! THInk!!!! THINk!!!!! THINK!!!!!
WHO would DESPERATELY NEED to CONVERT a (with NO PRIOR RECORD of being an addict to menses fluid/odor, fondling, prepubescent and postpubescent females, carnage, loot, plunder, extortion, kidnapping, blood, abrogating of agreements, and etc) NON-MUSLIM MOHAMMAD – into being his "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" cum BEST-MUSLIM, MOHAMMAD.
Islam's bgus allah's "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" cum BEST-MUSLIM, MOHAMMAD – WITH more than ample RECORDS in Islam's bogus allah's QURAN and in his ISLAM-APPROVED HADITHS, MOST PROUDLY CELEBRATING his "FINAL prophet's MIRACULOUS TRANSFORMATION and ADDICTION" to menses fluid/odor, fondling, prepubescent and postpubescent females, carnage, loot, plunder, extortion, kidnapping, ransom money, blood, abrogating of agreements,and etc.
A) holy true Allah – or B) most DEPRAVELY wanting-to-be-like-the- most-high (read, read BIBLE'S BOOK OF ISAIAH 14:12-14,15) warring-against-holy-true-Allah, LUCIFER aka (also known as) SATAN aka (QURAN 9:29 author-controller) GANGSTER-JIZYAH-SCHEMING ISLAM'S BOGUS aLLAH?
"A", or "B"?
Hello – BARONE, Helen, SHAMMA ISLAM, Jihad, FAHD R Q, Ryan RAMZI, Bayo Olamuko, CINDY, Zainab, SAUDA IBRAHIM, Cunny, YEAH RIGHT !!!, Stella, JOELLE R, Ahmad Dee, OMAR I JARRAD, Maya, NARIMAN, Umar Farouq, MAINA, Fernando F.
You and your clerics do all agree, support and conspire with Shahab Hasan (and his clerics') March 18th, 2010 714 GMT post to stay out of this blog?
For which reason(s)?
a) Because Islam has NO credible answers (other than through the staging of Islamic unrest, violence and mayhem) to answer to the revelations on Islam in the interview and in this blog.
b) Your "absence" from this blog (or, your posting of nonsensical answers, to warrant very rightful rejection from getting posted in this blog) – could then be used by Muslims to accuse this blog's moderators, of "discriminatory" censoring and gagging of "Islamic truths" in this blog.
c) Because your religious, political and government leaders are now working even more feverishly, with those non-Muslim NGO and government leaders, inside and outside the UN – who can be bribed by Islamic money, enticements and promises into banning blogs such as this from the world wide web.
Dear BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F – and, Muslims who are still alive.
Do think through the following questions MOST HONESTLY AND SOBERLY.
Question 1: If (Islam's approved hadiths authenticated, menses fuid and odor emitting women addict) fondler Mohammad was/is truly "holy true Allah's FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" – WHY THEN, it WILL BE Jesus Christ (INSTEAD OF/AND NOT Mohammad), who will:
a) ON THAT DAY PHYSICALLY RETURN to earth from Heaven, to REWARD ALL who are SECURELY SAVED IN HOLY TRUE ALLAH/HOLY TRUE GOD;
b) to JUDGE, SENTENCE TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT all who are then still alive disbelieving and rejecting/all who then had died disbelieving holy true Allah and His gracious gift of salvation and reconciliation – His gift of comprehensive salvation and reconcilation, by their preferring to believe, worship and obey GANGSTER god(s); and
c) who, after having rid earth of all who chose to reject Him, physically rule NEW EARTH ?
Question 2: By the way too, HOW COME Jesus Christ gets to be in HEAVEN, NOW – with supposed "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" MOHAMMAD's bones and remains still lying buried under dirt, in Medina?
Question 3: A) Only logical and true or B) only illogical and untrue – for the soul of Islam's deceased supposed "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" Mohammad, to NOW be in HADES, waiting for his judgement and sentencing by Jesus Christ, Son of holy true Allah/holy true God, ON THAT DAY?
Question 4: Once again, Mosab Hassan Yousef has been A) MOST WISE AND RESPONSIBLE or B) most foolish and irresponsible – TO HAVE OPTED FOR AND TO HAVE SECURED SALVATION AND LIFE ETERNAL, through Jesus Christ, Son of Allah/Son of God, Allah/God?
Question 5: You A) WILL or B) WILL NOT MOST URGENTLY form small groups with your Muslim clerics and Muslims, to seriously, soberly and honestly study and answer the above questions?
Amazing what they get away with isn't it.....
Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the
nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? ?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign
territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it
in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates
the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and
artillery and naval gunfire?
Answer: Israel.
Hello – BARONE, Helen, SHAMMA ISLAM, Jihad, FAHD R Q, Ryan RAMZI, Bayo Olamuko, CINDY, Zainab, SAUDA IBRAHIM, Cunny, YEAH RIGHT !!!, Stella, JOELLE R, Ahmad Dee, OMAR I JARRAD, Maya, NARIMAN, Umar Farouq, MAINA, Fernando F.- AND ALL OTHER MUSLIMS & MUSLIMAHS.
STEP 1: Google "A VIRTUAL TOUR OF SAUDI ARABIA"
STEP 2: Click into its "PHOTOS/INDEX.HTML" link
STEP 3: Next, click against "KAABA AND BLACK STONE IN MECCA, SAUDI ARABIA"
STEP 4: Finally, click against its "THE BLACK STONE" CAPTION or PHOTO bearing this description"THE BLACK STONE IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN CORNER OF THE KAABA AND THE PHOTOGRAPH ABOVE SHOWS HOW IT IS ENCASED IN A SILVER BAND"
STEP 5: Note its fuller text (QUOTE) "Touching or kissing the Black Stone has a profound impact on the faithful as it is suppose to count in their favor on judgment day. The great Muslim traveler from Valencia, Ibn Jubayr (1145 – 1217) describes the emotion he felt on touching the stone; The stone, WHEN ONE KISSES IT, HAS A SOFTNESS AND FRESHNESS WHICH DELIGHTS THE MOUTH, SO MUCH THAT HE WHO PLACES HIS LIPS UPON IT WISHES NEVER TO REMOVE THEM. It suffices, moreover, that the Prophet said that it is the Right Hand of God on Earth."
Hello, Barone
Your March 22nd, 2010 1515 GMT's oprning line of: " Amazing what they (** Israel) get away with isn't it....."
Yupe, truly amazing indeed !
QUESTION: Who to blame ?
Kindly google: "INTELLECTUAL OUTPUT FROM THE ARAB WORLD".
Summary:
"9 (NINE) Arab/Islamic Nobel winners, from a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims (i.e. 20% of World's Population, or 2 out of every 10 (TEN)people)
185 (ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE) Jewish winners, from a pool of 12 MILLION Jews (i.e. 0.2% of the World's Population, or 2 out of every 1,000 (ONE THOUSAND) people)."
ANSWER: Warring-against-holy-true-Allah, Islam's author-controller cum bogus-allah cum genuine-Satan, Islam's allah – and his Mohammad and Islam.
Hello Barone & company
Jews are the most rotten people on earth? Agree? If so, Jesus the Jew must have been one of the most rotten person on earth? Agree? How come when comparing Jesus to Mohammad, Jesus is at one end of spectrum while Mohammad is at the other end?
Ok. Jesus was an exception. He was the only good apple among the rotten in the barrel. If that is the case, then Jesus must be galaxy ahead of Mohammad in terms of holiness and greatness. How come God wanted to chose Mohammad over Jesus? Would the most holy perfect all knowing God show such incompetence in appointing anyone else, least of all a flawed character like Mohammad, to be greatest prophet of all? Who would want the world to be deceived if not God's antithesis, the great deceiver? What would be the objective of God's antithesis if not to oppose or counterfeit every aspect of of God's work? Won't he for every God's truth or work, throw a lie or create a substitute or counterfeit? Isn't this why you get the Bible vs the Quran and all others, Jesus vs Mohammad and all others? Think! Think! Think!
Dear BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F – and, Muslims who are still alive.
What WOULD holy true Allah SURELY DO TO MUSLIM Palestine and TO ALL (then, deceased or still living) MUSLIMS/MUSLIMAHS across the world on, JUDGEMENT DAY – for their STEADFAST ACTS OF BLASPHEMY AGAINST HIM:
a) by their believing and worshipping Islam's author-controller as being holy true Allah; and
b) by their believing and championing Islam's author-controller's fondling addict cum JANABA squirting/leaking Mohammad, as being "holy true Allah's FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ"?
Hello, Barone.
It is very evident that the clerics you run to, do all abandon you – therefore, your having not been able to satisfactorily answer any of the many questions asked of you.
You and your clerics are now demanding your elected (be he/she, a muslim or a non-Muslim) representatives in the CONGRESS and in the SENATE, to RESCUE your ISLAM, via the drafting or the enforcing of "anti-hate" laws – if they do not want Muslim voters to abandon them and resort to "civil unrest" ?
You A) AGREE or B) DISAGREE?
ONLY those who claim to champion truth and tolerance BUT are consistently, factually and truthfully exposed to be championing lies and intolerance ...
1. DO ALWAYS run to their GOVERNMENTS or UN's "HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION", to rescue them with "RACIAL-RELIGIOUS HARMONY/ANTI-HATE/ANTI-VILIFICATION" laws; and
2. DO ALWAYS hint/threaten/carry out "civil unrest and mayhem".
Dear Muslims, Muslimahs and non-Muslim apologists for true-Islam.
QUOTING Islam's approved BUKHARI HADITH V5B59N459:
"Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desire women and celibacy became hard on us and we love to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking asking Allah's Apostle who is among us?' We asked him about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.'"
UNQUOTE.
QUESTION: A CONDUCT CONSISTENT with the CONDUCT of A) holy true Allah's Jesus Christ and the disciples of Jesus Christ – or, B) with the CONDUCT of bogus-allah aka genuine-Satan aka Islam's allah's Mohammad and his disciples?
"A" or "B"?
Dear Christiane,
Thank you for the investigative report on Sex abuses of by the church.
And this is my last post in response to these vulger victims of sexual abuse by their priests, monks, rabbis, bishops, cardinals holy popes.
l feel they are compelled against their human intellect to indulge with these insulting garbage, which only exhibits their own religious values
as well as their upbringing & spiritual initiation by their elders.
Their views are consistent with Freuds theory of Oedipus Complex; the penis envy of their holy priests & their incestous fathers&they tend to anal-eyes-concepts in their backward positions; rather than to view them in their proper contexts.
They also tend to mix their honey with dung before they eat it..Pigstyle.
The most deliberate&the choicest method & criterion by the church to stratify&pacify the masses&especially in their newfound colonies& territories is by feminizing the natives, their men first, starting with young boys& sodomizing their women, converting them into nuns& violating the virgin little girls, as a satanic sexual sacrificial ritual.
Seemingly, its the church's best&most effective method of keeping all the faithful sinners in line & obedient for eternity. Psychological control through blackmail&sexual re-orientation of the population in remote villages.
Thats why another recommended method that allows the priests total control is through confessional sessions, by all member sinners.
Since charity starts@home; europe has been @the forefront as the pioneering grounds, for these sexual rituals since early christendom
resulting into the accepting gay marriages in the church&ordination of homo-sexual priests who have earned their ranks through black mail of their preceding abusive pastors, who have at one time or another abused these same gay priests as kids.
Now Europe & USA has the highest population of homosexuals at all levels of the geo-political-economic spectrum to include their kings, princes, presidents,prime ministers; scientists, MP's&policy makers.
With gay marriages legal in almost 60% of the countries in the west.
The Phillipines, Brazil&Mexico is prime example, outside Europe.
But other territories in Asia, Africa & Latin America have suffered similar fates by their most trusted abusive priests. The extent of which is soon to surface, crying & awaiting to be exposed.
A further investigation of church&priests in poor nations is needed.
For once AGREEING WITH YOU, Barone:
Your March 26th, 2010 458 GMT ending line of "a further investigation of church & priets in poor nations is needed".
CRUCIALLY NEED, indeed: A COMPREHENSIVE investigation on whether the doctrines, teachings and practices of THAT PARTICULAR CHURCH to ACCURATELY IDENTIFY which of its doctrines, teachings and practices do RUN CONTRARY to the Bible – and, therefore, its problems and ills .
By the way, er .... Barone – BACK to THE FOUNDATIONAL SUBJECT of this blog:
WHY THIS TOTAL ABSENCE OF ANY SERIOUSLY CREDIBLE AND REASONED REBUTTALS, from you and your fellow Muslims and Islam sympathising non-Muslims in this blog – TO THE MORE THAN ADEQUATELY SUBSTANTIATED CHARGE by Mosab Hassan IN THE INTERVIEW, and yours truly IN THIS BLOG, on ISLAM'S AUTHOR-CONTROLLER being GANGSTER-BOGUS-gOD SATAN himself ?
Dear, O dear BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F – and, Muslims who are still alive.
You A) AGREE or B) DISAGREE – and, WHY?
1. EXTREMIST-MUSLIMS are those MUSLIMS whose values and conduct are EXTREMELY CLOSE TO the values and the conduct of BEST-MUSLIM, MOHAMMAD – ISLAM'S purported "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ".
2. EXTREMIST-CHRISTIANS are those CHRISTIANS whose values and conduct are EXTREMELY CLOSE TO the values and the conduct of JESUS CHRIST – CHRISTIANITY'S (okay, okay, to be fair to all, purported) Son of Allah, Allah.
Hans Kueng, the dissident Catholic theologian from Switzerland, has accused Pope Benedict XVI of playing a role since 2001 in keeping sex-abuse claims against priests out of the public eye.
Kueng’s office confirmed on Wednesday remarks made in a Swiss television interview Sunday in which Kueng referred to a letter sent in May 2001 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to the world’s bishops.
The letter, De Delictis Gravioribus (about serious crimes), instructs bishops to report every case to the Vatican, but to keep such allegations confidential.
“There was not a single man in the whole Catholic Church who knew more about the sex-abuse cases than him, because it was ex officio (part of his official role),” Kueng said. Ratzinger became pope in 2005.
“He can’t wag his finger at the bishops and say, you didn’t do enough. He gave the instruction himself, as head of the Congregation of Doctrine of the Faith, and repeated it as Pope,” Kueng said.
The Congregation’s chief investigator of priestly wrongdoing, Monsignor Charles Scicluna, who heads a staff of just nine, last week defended the Vatican, saying it had processed 3,000 cases after Ratzinger’s 2001 crackdown on wayward bishops.
Scicluna said bishops were never told to hide cases from the police, but merely to keep allegations private so that child victims were not harassed by gossip or hounded by the news media.
Kueng could not be reached Wednesday to explain why he considered the confidentiality since 2001 to be wrong.
Most other critics of the church say the main problem was the failure among many Catholic bishops right up to the 1980s to properly investigate sex-abuse claims and report them to the police and the Vatican.
The letter, De Delictis Gravioribus, was made public in 2005.
Scicluna said that its prescription of confidentiality was a repetition of a Vatican legal rule of 1922, adding that the Catholic Church’s own rules, known as canon law, require bishops to cooperate with government crime investigators.
The Great Catholic Cover-Up!!
The pope's entire career has the stench of evil about it.
On March 10, the chief exorcist of the Vatican, the Rev. Gabriele Amorth (who has held this demanding post for 25 years), was quoted as saying that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican," and that "when one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' in the holy rooms, it is all true—including these latest stories of violence and pedophilia." This can perhaps be taken as confirmation that something horrible has indeed been going on in the holy precincts, though most inquiries show it to have a perfectly good material explanation.
Concerning the most recent revelations about the steady complicity of the Vatican in the ongoing—indeed endless—scandal of child rape, a few days later a spokesman for the Holy See made a concession in the guise of a denial. It was clear, said the Rev. Federico Lombardi, that an attempt was being made "to find elements to involve the Holy Father personally in issues of abuse." He stupidly went on to say that "those efforts have failed."
He was wrong twice. In the first place, nobody has had to strive to find such evidence: It has surfaced, as it was bound to do. In the second place, this extension of the awful scandal to the topmost level of the Roman Catholic Church is a process that has only just begun. Yet it became in a sense inevitable when the College of Cardinals elected, as the vicar of Christ on Earth, the man chiefly responsible for the original cover-up. (One of the sanctified voters in that "election" was Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, a man who had already found the jurisdiction of Massachusetts a bit too warm for his liking.)
Thank you son of Hamas; the world has under estimated yr foresight, yr futile efforts has brought about a reversal&unintended effect which has not been or was the least expected..... What a Back-Fire Effect!!
l Hope you were not abused by the priests&blackmailed to convert?
All this is a resultant of What you & yr insult-tossers@GOD&Religion have said, written & done... Those who put you upto it & thyeir zionist master are now being exposed to the maximum, to continue to 2012.
Now lets sit back & watch the cookie crumble.......
Hi Barone
Situation you described already foresaw in the Bible. The actions of these supposedly Christians don't taint Jesus or the teachings in the Bible. These people acted despite Biblical teachings and will accordingly face just condemnation and punishment. These are the false prophets and hypocrites which Jesus so condemned in the Bible. Read Matthew chapters 7 and 23.
Matthew 7:15-16 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them."
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of the Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers!'
Hence, citing all the wrongs committed by so called Christians doesn't negate the truth of the Bible. What about the acts of the terrorist Muslims or philandeering Muslim which truthandtruthonly had pointed out coming from the teachings of Quran and practises of Mohammad.
Barone, do you agree that the perfect all knowing ultimate authority God will only need to employ one version of His teachings. All other versions then must be aberrations of the truth. Very understandable development since God still allow His antithesis to operate for this while until the second coming of His Son Jesus (for you Mohammad?). Already a cardinal contradiction exists that must surely give rise to the contention that the Bible and quran cannot be both true. To promote that they are is already an attempt to mislead.
Remember, in exposing a counterfeit or imitation, all you need is to expose one facet that is not genuine is enough. A counterfeit note can have genuine paper, ink and etc. but the moment it doesn't have, say, the watermark it is a fake.
What will be the pitch of those promoting counterfeit notes?Emphasizing all are the same or only one is genuine? What will be their fear? Promoting awareness that there are counterfeit notes? What will be their modus operandi? To do utmost by whatever means to have awareness clampdown? Agree or disagree?
Emphasizing again Matthew 7:20 "Thus by their fruit you will recognize them."
Hi Barone
Just as there is but one sun, one earth, one biological parent, etc. there is but one and only one true Creator God. Such a God can only be all perfect, all knowing and all powerful and will only issue one set of laws and teachings. Otherwise he would show himself as being not perfect, not all knowing, and, hence, not all powerful and a poor imitation of God the Creator at best. Agee or disagree?
So can all religious teachings, expecially with so much contradictions, be from God the Creator?
Truth, being one and only one version, can withstand any scrutiny. Agree or disagree?
Between one who seeks open comparison of teachings and one who fears and condemns such practice, who do you think would be the pursuer or keeper of truth?
Remember, true believers of God the Creator don't need to defend Him for the all powerful God doesn't need defending or else He is no God. True believers of God also don't need to condemn those who insult, denigrate or disparage Him for such people do so at their own peril. In fact, true believers of God feel sorry for such fools as they are like eggs banging against the wall.
Considering the lives and actions of Jesus and Mohammad who do you think acted more like a Godly prophet, if not God Himself, and who a prophet wannabe?
Think! Think! Think!
Er... Barone.
Your desperate postings concerning the sins of those priests in the ROMAN CATHOLIC church.
QUESTION #1: A A) CLASSIC or B) NON-CLASSIC of the Kettle Mohammad calling the the Pot Roman Catholic church – black?
"A" or "B" ?
QUESTION #2: Have your Muslim senior clerics decided on the cleric(s) to participate in this blog to defend what you have patently been unable to defend, concerning the damning truths (from the Quran and Islam's approved hadiths) posted on your Islam's author-controller, his supposed "FINAL prophet after Jesus Christ" Mohammad, and their Islam?
QUESTION #3: You will respond by posting long posts regarding the Roman Catholic church or every other subject – so that YOU CAN DELAY/AVOID posting YOUR "rebuttal" to the damning truths posted in this blog, concerning YOUR Islam's author-controller, Mohammad and Islam?
Hello all Muslims, Muslimahs and non-Muslim apologists for Islam.
ANY factual or truthful point you would DARE TO RAISE, to factually and truthfully DEMOLISH THESE FACTS AND TRUTHS?
1. THAT true-Islam's author-controller (who "calls" Muslims and Muslimahs to "worship" holy true Allah) was and still is warring-against-holy-true-Allah, GANGSTER SATAN himself;
2. THAT any "FINAL prophet AFTER Jesus Christ" WHO IS STILL LYING BURIED UNDER DIRT IN MEDINA, BARRED BY HOLY TRUE ALLAH FROM JOINING JESUS CHRIST IN HEAVEN – CAN ONLY BE A PROPHET OF/FROM warring-against-holy-true-Allah, GANGSTER SATAN himself;
3. THAT true-Islam's QURAN and true-Islam's APPROVED HADITHS were all INSPIRED AND DIRECTED by GANGSTER SATAN himself;
4. THAT true-Islam was and still is A RELIGION of and from warring-against-holy true-Allah GANGSTER SATAN himself; AND
5. THAT EVERY Muslim, Muslimah – INCLUDING, EVERY NON-MUSLIM APOLOGIST for true-Islam – who "completes his/her life on earth", BELIEVING true-Islam to be or PROMOTING true-Islam as being "THE or ALSO A religion from holy true Allah" – WILL end up JUDGED AND SENTENCED by HOLY TRUE ALLAH on that JUDGEMENT DAY (AFTER current LAST DAYS), TO EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT in HELL.
Dear BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F – plus, Muslims who are still alive and all non-Muslim apologists for Islam.
think ! Think!! THink!!! THInk!!!! THINk!!!!! THINK !!!!!!
"A" or "B"?
Q#1. Writing, speaking, working, interviewing, publishing, broadcasting, lobbying, funding, fighting, killing for ISLAMIC CAUSES and for JERUSALEM to be ISLAMIC = writing, speaking. working, interviewing, publishing, broadcasting, lobbying, funding, fighting/killing A) FOR HOLY TRUE ALLAH; or B) FOR warring-against-holy-true-Allah Islam's (bogus) allah, genuine-SATAN?
Q#2. Writing, speaking, working, interviewing, publishing, broadcasting, lobbying, funding, fighting, killing, for ISLAMIC CAUSES and for JERUSALEM to be ISLAMIC = writing, speaking, working, interviewing, publishing, broadcastiing, lobbying, funding, fighting, killing A) FOR Muslims to abandon Islam's bogus allah/genuine-SATAN/his true-Islam, in preference for HOLY TRUE ALLAH and HEAVEN; or B) FOR Muslims to remain Muslim, and be punished in HELL, TOGETHER WITH MOHAMMAD AND SATAN?
Q#3. It is A) PATENTLY TO THE INTEREST of non-Muslims, or B) PATENTLY AGAINST THE INTEREST of non-Muslims – FOR non-Muslims to write,speak, work, interview, publish, broadcast, lobby, fund, fight, kill FOR ISLAMIC CAUSES and FOR JERUSALEM to be ISLAMIC?
Hi Barone
The Bible says Jesus rose from the dead (the Easter season is to remind Christians of this) while the Quran says otherwise i.e. Jesus death was faked as someone had substituted him. Can the Bible and Quran both be the word of God? If not, then which is and which is not? Truth seekers would say 'discuss and find out' but the lie mongerers and lovers would never do so for obvious reason.
Let those ignorant know why Christians believe the Bible? The Bible recorded many witnesses of Jesus' resurrection. There was one such man called Saul, a highly learned and prominent Jew (held Roman citizenship and, therefore, enjoyed high status and privileges). Saul started off as an ardent hater of Christianity and was all out to persecute and punish them with death. He had an encounter with Jesus when Jesus was supposed to be dead. That encounter so convinced him about the reality of Jesus' resurrection that he felt no choice but to become a Christian (Saul's name was changed to Paul after this) and be prepared to lose everything including his life to preach the gospel message. This irrefutable proof hit home not only to Jesus's disciples and Paul but to all since who sought truth. Mosab, like Paul, finally saw light and know that the gospel truth had set him free.
Yeah, truthandtruthonly, the silence of Muslim apologists and clerics is deafening. Am hoping that Barone, with a little common sense and soul searching heart, do a Paul or Mosab so as free those billions from the clutches of the greatest deceiver.
Think! Think! Think! Hope you can still think and have the courage to stand for your conviction against the gangster methods (fatwas etc.) which would surely be used to keep the deceived coralled.
Dear Christiane.
A major mini-series prestigious awards winning report you may wish to work on, for your broadcasting across the world in the near future?
The report: PRESENTDAY WELL COORDINATED APPLICATIONS by Islam, through its "REFUGE-BEGGING" Muslims and Muslim organisations FROM MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES, for "REFUGE/SAFE HAVEN" in CRAFTILY SELECTED/TARGETED NON-MUSLIM COUNTRIES across THE world – of this SATANIC Islam-inspired Arab story. on how the camel got to EJECT its master from his tent, on one cold cold Arabian desert night,
Dear Christiane,
ANOTHER major mini-series prestigious awards winning report you may wish to work on, for your broadcating across the world?
SATAN's DELIBERATE MIXING UP of the numbering of his Quran's 114 SURAHS/chapters (and their AYATS/verses), through a SATANIC numbering system that MASKS the ACTUAL SEQUENCE of the Surahs and Ayats in his Quran – SO THAT he and his SELECTED SPECIALLY-TRAINED MUSLIMS CAN BETTER CONFUSE/ DECEIVE his general Muslim masses and the non-Muslims he seeks to deceive, BY THEIR POINTING TO THE "RELEVANT" Surah/s and Ayat/s, to suit/justify /their EVIL PURPOSE for the occasion.
Hi Jack Keano.
Re your pointing (in your April 3rd, 2010 3:54 am ET post) to CHRISTIAN, PAUL who was formely, SAUL, a most zealous persecutor of followers of Jesus Christ (until he was CONVERTED by the Spirit of Jesus Christ).
ONLY NATURAL/CONSISTENT/TO BE EXPECTED/:
1. for holy true Allah to convert VIOLENT SAUL into PEACE-LOVING PAUL; and
2. for warring-against-holy-Allah-by-wanting-to-be-Allah no-Allah bogus-allah genuine-Satan, Islam's allah, TO CONVERT NON-MUSLIM MOHAMMAD (with no written records of having been an addict to guile, violence and perversions, when he was a non-Muslim) – INTO Islam's "final prophet after Jesus Christ" BEST-MUSLIM MOHAMMAD (WITH MORE THAN AMPLE RECORDS in the QURAN and in ISLAM'S APPROVED HADITHS, proudly boasting of MOHAMMAD'S ADDICTION GUILE, VIOLENCE, FONDLING, MENSE DISCHARGE AND OTHER PERVERSIONS).
ER...... BARONE, Helen, SHAMMA ISLAM, Jihad, FAHD R Q, Ryan RAMZI, Bayo Olamuko, CINDY, Zainab, SAUDA IBRAHIM, Cunny, YEAH RIGHT !!!, Stella, JOELLE R, Ahmad Dee, OMAR I JARRAD, Maya, NARIMAN, Umar Farouq, MAINA, Fernando F.- AND ALL OTHER MUSLIMS & MUSLIMAHS.
WHY do the VERY MUSLIMS who BEG to be admitted into NON-MUSLIM countries, citing the hardships they face in their SHARIA LAW-RULED countries of origin, would ALWAYS – NOT LONG AFTER these Muslims are given the ENTRY, REFUGE, "GREEN CARD they beg for – LOUDLY or SILENTLY, DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY, OVERTLY or COVERTLY work together to support the introduction of the very SHARIA LAW to prevail in the non-Muslim countries they now reside in?
Dear BARONE, Helen, SHABAB HASAN, Shamma Islam, JIHAD, Fahd R Q, RYAN, Ramzi, BAYO OLAMUKO, Cindy, ZAINAB, Sauda Ibrahim, CUNNY, Yeah Right !!! STELLA, Joelle R, AHMED DEE, Omar I Jarrad, MAYA, Nariman, UMAR FAROUQ, Maina, FERNANDO F – plus, Muslims who are still alive and all non-Muslim apologists for Islam.
Do you think you could help ASSURE the non-Muslim world that "AL-TAQIYYA-CUM-MARTYRDOM-CHAMPIONING" ISLAMIC IRAN and any and every other Islamic/Muslim country that seek nuclear technology, should/could be trusted in NOT BLACKMAILING the non-Muslim world into capitulating to Islam – once the time is right for any one of more numbers of such nuclear weapon armed Islamic country, to threaten the world with nuclear destruction?
Dear Christiane,
Yet another major mini-series prestigious awards winning report you may wish to work on, for your broadcating across the world?
The ever readiness, ability, capacity of Islam and Muslims to CRY OUT LOUD that they are victimised aggrieved parties where, in actual fact, they were/are nearly always the SCHEMING, INITIATING, INSTIGATING, PRECIPITATING, PERPETRATING aggressors – so as to JUSTIFY their "having no choice but to wage 'DEFENSIVE WARS' against the aggressors".
Dear Christiane,
Yet ANOTHER major mini-series prestigious awards winning report you may wish to work on, for your broadcating across the world?
Your getting the AS MANY MUSLIM ISLAMIC SCHOLARS and their NON-MUSLIM QUISLINGS FOR ISLAM you can get, to give their take on just how to RECONCILE Islamic world's custodian clerics for Islam's most sacred shrines in Saudi Arabia APPROVED Bukhari Hadith V4B52N260 WITH Quran 2:256 and Quran 109.
BUKHARI HADITH Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260: Narrated Ikrima:
(summarised) "KILL THOSE WHO LEAVE ISLAM" (as IS BEING carried out in Saudi Arabia IN PARTICULAR).
QURAN 2:256 (summarized) "There is no compulsion of religion in Islam".
QURAN 109 (summarized) "To you your religion, to be my religion".
Hi Barone & company
Do you agree that God of all creation needs to give only one set of laws and teaching? Do you agree that among all the contradicting religions, one is God inspired and the rest Satan inspired or man concocted? Among all the religions which do you think is God inspired? The Bible teaches that God created man and woman in his image for His pleasure. Don't artists and sculptors create objects for their pleasure? What is the highest form of pleasure to God? Programmed humanoids to do His bidding or free human beings choosing to respect, obey and worship Him? Can free will be exercised having constraints or without choice? Can a choice without consequence be a true choice? Hence, Jesus teaching in John 3:16-18 about the consequences of eternal life and eternal death. So who would want to undermine free choice and deprive God of His highest pleasure if not Satan? Can a religion, most notably Islam, which forcibly confines its believers and imposes freedom curbs be advocating free choice and a religion of truth?
Think! Think! Think!
Muslims and Muslimahs.
You agree, or disagree – and why?
IT WOULD BE SUICIDAL for true-Islam's author-controller, his Muslim clerics and their Muslims and Muslimahs to haul any Muslim or non-Muslim DETRACTOR for trial in OPEN HONEST COURTS, for having DEFAMED/BLASPHEMED AGAINST true-Islam – BECAUSE every such open honest court trial WILL EASILY and CONCLUSIVELY FIND OUT THAT IT IS true-Islam's author-controller, his Islam, his Quran, his Islam-approved hadith and their followers who are the ones WHO DEFAMED/BLASPHEMED against holy true-Allah.
THEREFORE, the MOST DESPERATELY NEED for true-Islam's author-controller, his clerics and his followers TO MOST CRAFTILY EMPLOY hints and actual acts of "PEACEFUL AND, especially, UNPEACEFUL ACTS OF UNHAPPINESS AND ENTICEMENTS", TO INITIMIDATE/BRIBE/SEDUCE/BLACKMAIL THE UNITED NATIONS, AND THE NON-MUSLIM GOVERMENTS they could "influence", INTO ENACTING "HARMONY LAWS, KANGAROO LEGAL PROCEDURES, ANTI-BLASPHEMY LAWS, AND ETC" – SO AS TO PROTECT true-Islam and true-Islam's author-controller AND his Quran and true-Islam's approved hadiths, FROM GETTING TRUTHFULLY AND FACTUALLY EXPOSED TO BE OF/FROM GANGSTER SATAN himself.
DEAR MS CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR.
BEST WISHES TO YOU AS YOU MOVE OVER TO ABC.
WITH GRATEFUL THANKS TO YOU ONCE AGAIN (AND TO CNN), FOR YOUR INTERVIEWING OF MR MOSAG HASSAN YOUSEF.
SINCERELY,
TRUTHANDTRUTHONLY
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