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Raul Castro's daughter Mariela speaks about Alan Gross case

June 1st, 2012
11:43 PM ET

On Tuesday Christiane has the second part of her interview with Mariela Castro on CNN International. The niece of Fidel Castro and daughter of Cuban President Raul Castro, discusses Cuba's political future and her fight for acceptance of gays in that country.

(CNN) - The daughter of Cuba's president supports the re-election bid of U.S. President Barack Obama, but believes he could do more were it not for the pressures he is facing, she said in an interview broadcast Monday on "CNNi's Amanpour."

"As a citizen of the world, I would like him to win," said Mariela Castro Espin, daughter of Raul Castro, in the exclusive interview, which was conducted Friday in New York. "Given the choices, I prefer Obama."

The 49-year-old gay rights advocate said that Obama has been constrained in his ability to effect change. "He wants to do much more than what he's been able to do," she said. "That's the way I interpret it personally. I don't know if I'm being objective."

Still, she said, "I believe that Obama needs another opportunity and he needs greater support to move forward with his projects and with his ideas, which I believe come from the bottom of his heart."

Asked if Obama would lift the half-century-old trade embargo on Cuba if he could, Castro said, "I believe that Obama is a fair man. And I believe Obama needs greater support to be able to make these decisions. If Obama had all the political support of the American people, then we could normalize our relationships, as good or better than we had under President Carter."

During his single term as president, from 1977 to 1981, Jimmy Carter eased restrictions on U.S. travel to Cuba.

Castro added that she supports the release of Alan Gross, a U.S. citizen arrested in Cuba in 2009 and sentenced to 15 years on charges of subversion. But, she added, she also wants to see the release of the "Cuban Five," who are being held in the United States for crimes of espionage.

Castro was unswayed by Gross' recent request that he be allowed to visit his 90-year-old mother before she dies if he promises to return afterward to prison in Cuba.

"Alan Gross has been granted everything that he's asked for: He has been able to see his wife, he has been able to have matrimonial, conjugal visits, and he has been treated with respect and dignity the way we always treat prisoners in Cuba," Castro said. "We haven't received the same treatment on the other hand for our five prisoners who have very long sentences that are not right. I think that the six must be released - both the five Cubans and Alan Gross."

"Is that what you're saying, that Alan Gross should be released and the Cuban Five?" host Christiane Amanpour asked.

"Of course," Castro responded. "I'm referring to the five Cubans and Alan Gross. I believe that this would be the happiest solution for all involved."

The gay rights activist said that sexual orientation and gender identification are among the rights that Communist Cuba still needs to address. A bill legalizing civil unions, not same-sex marriage, has been proposed, "however, this hasn't happened as yet," she said. "And people who are in same-sex couples do not have any protection in that sense."

She predicted the legislature would address the matter, which her father has not opposed, this year.

Castro said the nation had learned to acknowledge and correct past mistakes after its aggressive quarantine policy for HIV-positive men and women during the early years of the AIDS epidemic was abandoned in 1993.

"I never agreed with these quarantines," she said. "There were several international health organizations that evaluated these quarantines as a positive thing at a time when not much was known about how the epidemic spreads."

Amanpour pointed to a Human Rights Watch description of Cuba as "the only country in Latin America that represses virtually all forms of political dissent."

But Castro said the rights group "does not represent the opinion of the Cuban people. And their informants are mercenaries. They're people who have been paid by a foreign government for media shows that do not represent Cuban positions directly."

She defended her nation as one that allows dissent. "People who dissent don't go to jail," she said. "Everybody in Cuba expresses their view and there's a political participation so that we can express ourselves and question everything."

Holding an opinion contrary to that of the government "enriches the debate," she said. "No one goes to prison for an opinion, rather for serving foreign interests who pay them. That's called being a mercenary and that's penalized in laws everywhere in the world, including the laws of this country."

She said the island's single-party system would disappear if other nations would stop trying to impose their will on Cuba.

"If Cuba's sovereignty weren't threatened, if the internal affairs of Cuba weren't manipulated in media campaigns, if Cuba weren't the subject of an economic and trade embargo, which has caused so many problems for us, then in Cuba, it wouldn't make sense to have a sole party, just one party," she said.

Though some critics have said the nation relies on the embargo to crack down on internal dissent, and that the nation's socialist system would collapse if the United States were to lift the embargo, Castro disagreed about what would happen to her country.

"I think it would become stronger," she said. "This is why they don't lift the embargo."

Castro offered no sympathy for Yoani Sanchez, the dissident blogger inside Cuba who has won multiple awards for her work, which is critical of the Castro government.

"She gives service to foreign powers who are interested in eliminating the Cuban experience," Castro said. "She's an official voice of the global dominant powers."

Castro disputed Sanchez's assertion that she was not allowed to work. "She is allowed to work in Cuba," Castro said. "But she makes much more money with the prizes, which are being sent to her from abroad, than for any work that she might do with the very low wages that we have in Cuba."

Castro predicted that Sanchez's audience will "get bored of hearing lies," and her influence will wane. "She doesn't really fight for authentic rights; she's not committed to the rights movement in Cuba, because she doesn't even participate in any of the debates that are trying to achieve rights."

Castro blamed the trade embargo for the fact that many Cubans are not able to use the Internet. "We pay Internet over satellite, which is very expensive," she said. "We don't have the access to the fiber optic lines that pass by Cuba. We're negotiating with Venezuela to help us so we can maximize access to Internet."

But she said Cubans still have access to "very big social networks."

"There is more access to the Internet in Cuba, legal and illegal, than you can imagine, because the Cuban people are a curious people. And you can't deny us the access to information."

Asked about Sen. Robert Menendez's description of her as "a vocal advocate of the regime, an opponent of democracy, who has defended the brutal repression of democracy activists," Castro called the Republican from New Jersey "a person who really doesn't have his feet down on the ground."

Asked why the United States had issued Castro a visa, a State Department spokesman noted that she had visited the United States twice during the George W. Bush administration. "However, one should not mistake the fact that a visa was granted to this person with our general policy towards Cuba," Acting Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs Michael A. Hammer told reporters in Washington. "In fact, we want, and we allow freedom of expression in our country, something, which in fact, does not occur in Cuba."

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  1. Roy

    I think the U.S. should look into sending all the Gay's to Cuba. Lincoln proposed sending all the freed slaves to Grenada...this would be a wonderful idea. They could have a box on your tax returns...Check if you would like to donate $20.00 to fund "Gays to Cuba".......brilliant idea if I say so myself

    June 2, 2012 at 10:57 am | Reply
    • Tom

      And there should be a box above that asking for a $10 donation to send idiots like yourself to Somalia or the Congo. I'm pretty sure that option would raise more money and have a much greater benefit. "Brilliant idea if I say do myself"

      June 2, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
    • Roy is a tool

      Thats a horrible idea, your family should be dragged out into the street and shot like rabid dogs for you saying that. I will start a prayer drive that you get 6 types of cancer an die a lonely miserable death.... Only so someone can set you on fire in your hospital bed...

      June 2, 2012 at 11:32 am | Reply
      • Joe

        What you said about Roy is worse than what he said about gays. You, "Roy is a tool", are a hypocrite.

        June 2, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
      • Jon B

        To "Roy is a Tool" Why would you think violence will solve anything? Have you been beaten by "gay's" or had anything negative happen to you because of "gay's"? Your lack of command of the English language says a lot however I would be willing to teach you proper grammar to help you LEARN the right way instead of making fun of you for not knowing how to do something. Think bigger then yourself, you will be happier.

        June 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
      • to Jon B

        Before teaching others some grammar go and learn some proper English. "think bigger thEn yourself" is a really bad mistake by someone who's trying to teach others English.
        By the way, there is a difference between "then" and "than"....look it up 😉

        June 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • jeremy

      roy i suppose you enjoyed the pastor who wanted to put gays behind a fence so they die off as well, no?

      June 2, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
    • EndTheHate

      Roy can you give a specific example of how gays or gay marriage harms America or straight marriage in any way?

      Please only rational, factual and logical responses.

      June 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • bruceb

      Roy, your ignorance is only exceeded by your bigotry. Move to Iran, hear that women are property, right up your alley. Literaly.

      June 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Reply
    • Joel

      First off the plural of gay is not "gay's." It's gays. No apostrophe needed. Now, while the idea of sending gay Americans to an island, you must keep in mind that gays are born of straights. Whacha gonna do now?

      June 2, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      I'd rather send the bigots.

      June 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Reply
    • Jon B

      You are a true JackA$$.

      June 2, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Reply
    • Tollarance

      Maybe it would be easier to send all bigots and racists to an island except we honor your right to be ignorant.

      June 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Reply
      • jayjay

        What you call a bigot is actually the majority

        June 3, 2012 at 12:58 am |
    • Tollarance

      There are three kinds of people:
      1) A person in the darkness moving towards more darkness
      2) A person in the darkness moving towards the light
      3) A person in the light moving towards more light
      Best be on the latter two categories. For your benefit and the benefit of many.
      Be happy.

      June 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Reply
    • Tollarance

      Only a miserable person could make such hateful comments. Nevertheless, we can't cure poison with more of the same poison...only the antidote will do. The antidote to hate is love and compassion. Throw water on the fire..not more fuel.

      June 2, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Reply
    • Sad

      This is pure evil. That is why this world is full of hatred, anger and war because of people who no nothing but pure hate. I'm sad for people who know nothing but hatred. Thanks for making the world less safe.

      June 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Reply
    • Mwilder

      Good grief, another redneck

      June 2, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Reply
    • sue

      Roy and his kind (ignorant, backward, arriogant rednecks that are a disgrace to America) should be rounded up sent to the one place that they fear most....

      ......school.

      June 3, 2012 at 1:26 am | Reply
    • Mark

      How ignorant and immature could you possibly be?

      June 3, 2012 at 2:02 am | Reply
    • Ali

      and people like you to Saudi Arabia or Iran...

      June 3, 2012 at 2:29 am | Reply
    • Gail

      Come on Roy, we all know you played with your little nephews in the shower... everybody talks about it.

      June 3, 2012 at 4:14 am | Reply
    • Mikecheck

      Roy, It would be a lot cheaper and satisfying to just send you and the fortunately small number of people like you, but I wouldn't wish that storm of ignorance on Cuba or anyone else for that matter.

      June 3, 2012 at 7:08 am | Reply
    • TheGreenMan

      I concur. A great idea and with all those trained Doctors in Cuba (one of its proud statistics apparently) they could administer to the gay gift to Cuba of Karposi's sarcoma, Auto Immune Deficiency Syndrome and HIV the only virus with human rights because it is spread by the 'unsafe behaviors' of a 'protected minority species' disease vector.

      June 3, 2012 at 10:46 am | Reply
  2. Jennifer

    Cuba, now like many other countries, will soon have more civil freedoms then the US.... odd isn't

    June 2, 2012 at 11:29 am | Reply
    • Dennis

      "Than" and not "Then"

      June 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Reply
    • Some cuban

      I'm not sure if you know what you are talking about, no offense intended. Cuba y one of those countries where nationals has less civil rights than any other person coming as a tourist, for example. Don't believe to the "princess" Mariela Castro, gays in Cuba are just discriminated as any other country, her "fight" is just a face for international public relationships, a better one than the dinosaur brothers. I could go on, but I have the experience outsiders don't get it till they live over there.

      June 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Reply
  3. Tom

    yes..Gays need to be send to there. Gays are disease for this generation and for the coming onece. I can't wait to see you guys start having relationship with animals. I don't see you like normal people.

    June 2, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • Hansnyc

      You are incapable to see gays as normal people, people that contribute like any other U.S. citizen to the whole of society. They pay taxes, open businesses to create jobs, serve the country to make the U.S. a better place to live. Gays are already denied equal rights by its own government, while some foreigner that is incapable of even writing a normal english sentence gets all benefits that are denied to gays without having done anything for America. Incredible...

      June 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      So much better to be surrounded by poison like you.

      June 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Reply
    • Tollarance

      the way we see others and the world is more a reflection of how we see ourselves.

      June 2, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Reply
  4. Tom, Jeremy, et al.

    If Hollywood didn't tell you that "gay is okay", what would you think? (Are you capable of independent cognitive activity?)

    June 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      Sense, this made none of.

      June 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Reply
    • sue

      Gay *is* OK, for those who are, since that's what they in fact are. What kind of imbeciles like you think you're better than anybody else?? Please, let me assure you 100% - you're not!

      June 3, 2012 at 1:28 am | Reply
  5. richard

    its unfortunate that this gay issue is been championed by people we respect alot

    June 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Reply
  6. Klaus Schaffner

    It is incomprehensible, how a country like America is actually fighting over something like 'gay' or 'not gay'. America gave mankind so many wonderful things, you should all be proud to be citizens of the most wonderful country in the world. Gay or straight, white, black or green – enjoy your life, enjoy your country and most of all: protect your right to be free.

    June 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Reply
  7. jayjay

    Awesome now all the pole smokers have a place to go. SEE YA

    June 3, 2012 at 12:54 am | Reply
  8. Steve

    I think the US is a wonderful country, but it is certainly not the most wonderful country in the world. To actually know this would require to have lived somewhere so you can compare. Most Americans have never left the country.

    I lived 10 years in the US and have lived in many other countries, believe me there are better places to raise a family...and the gays are respected...

    June 3, 2012 at 2:54 am | Reply
  9. Steven Heath

    If the US can deal with Vietnam , then Cuba would be easy . Just off of the Keys , an Island full of Baseball playing , intelligent , law abiding , skilled people . Lifting the Sanctions would benefit the US , you have another State of America crying out to join the Land of the Free . Steven Heath , twitter @cubasteve57 .

    June 3, 2012 at 2:59 am | Reply
  10. government cheese

    CNN announces that Cube is gay now. Does Amanpour know anything about Hispanic culture?

    June 3, 2012 at 5:00 am | Reply
  11. TheGreenMan

    At one time, Cuba only used to welcome Cigar puffs.

    June 3, 2012 at 10:41 am | Reply
  12. John McAuliff

    The US government is to be applauded for giving Mariela Castro a visa to chair a panel and present at the Latin America Studies Association (LASA). However it looked ridiculous fruitlessly trying to appease Cuban American hard liners by denying visas to 11 other LASA registrants, including professors who had positions at Harvard, Columbia and the City University of New York last fall.

    John McAuliff
    Fund for Reconciliation and Development

    June 3, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Reply
  13. Ash

    It is a disgrace! America dt was built on d foundatn of christianity turn ha bak on God n begin doing immoral acts “gay“

    June 4, 2012 at 5:53 am | Reply
  14. Ash

    Where d hell dose gays learn dat culture frm? “sodom and gomorah ofcos“ wat ur grand parents n parents did nt do sorry!

    June 4, 2012 at 6:16 am | Reply
  15. Ash

    To d atheist of u.s! The day of the lord is comin he ‘ll judge all men how bad it ‘ll be dose who denied his xistance

    June 4, 2012 at 6:25 am | Reply
  16. Ash

    To other countries like china india germany asian tigers etc “unless u return 2 God“ he is merciful he ‘ll revived u.s

    June 4, 2012 at 6:40 am | Reply
  17. Ash

    Wat i mean is d cnsequnces of such is “economic recession n losin global influence“ of d u.s to dose countries listed

    June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am | Reply
  18. Liz

    Mariela Castro is just using the gay topic to get some publicity and empathy for herself and the government she represents. Cuban system does not have any respect for human rights. Weather you are gay or straight you have no rights in Cuba. That is what dictatorship is. And yes, embargo should be over, so they won't have any excuse for their failures. And every American can go and see and feel how is to leave without freedom. and human rights so we don't take it for granted.

    June 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Reply
    • Sara

      You are the only person that has answered correctly! Mariela Castro's issue is not the gay community but her fathers' agenda, to reconcile relations with the U.S. It is very sad that after all this years of repression on that island nation we still don't know how to deal with them!

      June 4, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Reply
  19. Bruce Burrow

    The root of the problem is the lone voice heard in the United States relative to Cuba over the past 50 years has been that of the dissident Cuban-American community, primarily in Miami. Their political agenda has been to persuade the state of Florida to pass legislation that sets "their" foreign policy relative to Cuba. There are 300 million citizens in the U.S., and less than 1% have kept this cold war going. Simply put, the more knowledgeable we become about Cuba, the less impact the dissidents will have. It's long past time for a change.

    June 4, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  20. Some cuban

    OMFG, so many lies in so little written lines!!! So much cynicism!!! I couldn't read it without my blood pressure rocketed... And right here, in US, where at least to million Cuban people know everything she is saying is a TOTAL LIE....

    June 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Reply
  21. humbertocapiro

    ALAN GROSS WAS "PLUCKED" FROM THE REST OF THE TOURISTS BECAUSE HE WAS IDENTIFIED AS A POSSIBLE HOSTAGE TO TRADE FOR THE CUBAN 5 SPIES DUE TO HIS WORK WITH USAID! HE HAD A RECEIPT FOR WHAT HE BROUGHT IN AND THAT FACT CAME OUT IN THE TRIAL! THIS WAS SOMETHING THE CASTROFASCISTS WERE NOT PREPARED FOR! THAT IS THE REASON THEY CHANGED HIS CHARGES FROM BRINGING IN A "SATELLITE" PHONE TO "CRIMES AGAINST THE STATE"!! MR. GROSS DOES NOT SPEAK SPANISH! SOME SPY!

    SAN DIEGO CHANNEL 10 : With American In Cuban Prison, Wife Hopes For Clemency- Alan Gross Convicted Of Trying To Subvert Cuban Gov't – From Jill Dougherty,CNN Foreign Affairs Correspondent

    "The equipment is illegal in Cuba without government permission, but a source close to the case told CNN that "at trial, the defense presented a receipt from Cuban Customs to demonstrate the Cubans were both aware of and approved what Alan brought in.""
    http://www.10news.com/news/29066339/detail.html

    ABC SPAIN NEWS INTERNATIONAL: La mujer de Alan Gross pide a Obama que interceda para que Cuba lo libere ( The wife of Alan Gross asks Obama to interced so that Cuban can free him)

    «No le dio a nadie teléfonos satélite como se ha informado incorrectamente. En al menos una ocasión, las autoridades cubanas le registraron las bolsas y, tras el pago de un impuesto, se le permitió entrar libremente al país con el equipo que cargaba», afirma el JCRC.

    "He gave no satellite phones as it has been reported incorrectly. In at least one occasion, the Cuban authorities searched his bags and, after payment of a tax, he was allowed to freely enter the country carrying the equipment, "says the JCR – Jewish Community Relations Council
    http://www.abc.es/20111128/internacional/abci-mujer-alan-gross-pide-201111282037.html

    CBS NEWS: Cuban Jewish leader knew imprisoned American-First member of Cuba's small Jewish community admits knowing and talking to American Alan Gross, imprisoned for allegedly smuggling illegal satellite communication devices-By Portia Siegelbaum

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/24/501364/main20036259.shtml
    NPR : In Cuba, Jailed American Alan Gross Faces Trial

    BLOCK: Now, foreign journalists, I understand, are not allowed into the courtroom to cover the trial. You were outside the courthouse today. What were you able to learn there?

    MIROFF: That's right. He's being tried in a small municipal courthouse far away from the city center.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134272743/In-Cuba-Jailed-American-Faces-Trial

    June 6, 2012 at 12:47 am | Reply
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