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French cartoonist defends Mohammed drawings
By Samuel Burke
Is shouting fire in a crowded theater free speech?
That debate has been sparked once again by a series of cartoons published in the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, some of which depict the Prophet Mohammed in obscene poses.
CNN’s Christiane Amanpour interviewed a cartoonist from the magazine, who is known as Luz. He said, “Everyone can have his own interpretation,” that the drawings were not made to shock people.
As for the violence that could come as a result of the cartoons, Luz said he would not accept any blame.
“Who is responsible for killing? It is the killer,” Luz said. “It’s quite unfair to say we are responsible for this. It’s fear that is responsible.”
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The French government has stationed police outside of the magazine's headquarters in Paris and ordered the immediate closure of the French embassy in Tunisia. It also plans to close French embassies and schools throughout the Arab world on Friday – the Muslim day of prayer.
Marwan Muhammed, spokesman for the Collective Against Islamophobia in France, calls for a respectful disagreement over what he deems an “awful piece of journalism.”
“Of course the freedom of expression has to be accepted and respected in our countries,” Muhammed told Amanpour, “but we cannot say that we hid behind the freedom of expression to use it as a means of insulting a whole community.”
French writer and philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy disagrees. While he doesn’t like the cartoons, they are a part of a democracy, he said.
“The right to blasphemy is a core, key point of freedom,” he said.
Lévy also said he doesn’t believe the cartoons, clashes and ongoing protests are part of a cultural war between the rest and the Muslim world – citing western support of Libya to “free itself” as an example of the two groups working together.
“The real war is not between the West and ‘the rest.’ It is inside the rest– inside Islam,” Levy said.
“The real clash is between the moderates and the fanatics.”
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CNN’s Juliet Fuisz produced this piece for television.
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they try to find every reason to cut freedom of speach and no matter what the islam world is about destoying those who are not muslems. why are so many peoples blind i dont get it.
Hey my friend you are talking about freedom of expression. would the Germans accept someone praising the glories of Hitler in Germany??
Most Europe have laws that criminalize the denial of the holocaust, with sentences that reach 6 years in some countries. Examples of notable convictions of denying holocaust include:
1- France: Roger Garaudy (suspended sentence + F240,000 fine)
2- Germany: Ernst Zündel (5 years imprisonment)
3- Austria: Wolfgang Fröhlich (6 years imprisonment)
4- Switzerland: Jürgen Graf (15 months imprisonment)
so even Europe has red lines as well. Plus, when they know for sure that these cartoons hurt the feelings of millions of muslims, doesn't that categorize these insulting cartoons as a hate speech?
It is the insensitivity of such cartoons and depictions of a person/Prophet revered by the followers of Islam that is unacceptable!
We should all learn to respect each others faiths if we claim to be peaceful no matter what part of the world we come from.
In the USA you can say anything you want about it.
Freedom of speech.
Religion is the root of all evils! using Jews as an example does not excuse nor justify your violent actions. Muhammed, Jesus, Ala , Buddha whom ever you believe if there is such as supreme being he or she or ti must be laughing about the silliness and ridiculous behavior Muslims are showing about this, educate yourselves and evolve please.
What on earth is wrong with the muslim world. Is their God so weak that he can not fight for himselve? I doubt. Does ISLAM not mean PEACE. ISLAM! Pleace leave up to your name.
You are stupid, ignorant bafoon ... its my freedom of expression that I think you should be wiped off the face of the earth
so are protests not our right..to demand ban on such a film/cartoon or hateful material not our right???
hate speech in any form must be made unlawful there is no other way forward ..
Islam is of course peace ,now peace does not mean keeping quite on any kind of a situation where people provoke the sentiments of a community ,and to some of who have asked the muslims to evolve and grow i would suggest plse if any time in life you get a chance read the Quran ,you will no the truth of progress from where we have evolved,and if accepting any crap is evolving than we are more happy to remain unevolved ,lets not make comments without actually knowing the subject in depth ,a deep understanding is required as a muslim and to be prcise a peace loving muslim lets oppose the idea ,freedom has different parameters ,so freedom can be misused for which I have a lot of examples but on ehical grounds i would prefer being quite as freedom is not always good
I tink d muslem ar fightin 4 their rite
A deity (God) should be able to protect or fight Himself...
The Muslim protesters are simply being violent not fighting for their God or religion. @Olamilekan what right are they fighting for? Is it the right to oppose free speech in a democratic and free country?
There's no justification for getting violent. But pls spare me the freedom of speech execuse! There are double standards in Europe..when it comes to jews or holocaust then everyone shuts his mouth..why? bec of a strong zionist lobby that influences law makers and brainwashes your minds thru controlling media>
what do know about right? a wholw bunch of stupid people!!!
If your god is ever so powerful. How could any mortal on Earth say or do anything to offend one’s God!
Most Muslims I spoke with say; Violence is “NOT” the way of their God. Their are some Muslims who have chose to excite violence through others, but using God as an excuse to do just that. Muslims have their own peaceable way in handling situations like this. They said; it is not the way on a true Muslim.
I tink d muslem ar fightin 4 their rite
Yea, sure. Their rights do not include telling other people what to think or believe.
At least not in the 21st century...
And physically hurting or even killing? are you saying that is their "right"????
Those among them that believe like that are living mired in the 12th century and are responsible for the mess many mulsims around the world are in...
my friend killing is not our right ..but peaceful protest is..some thing that is purest form of hate speech against a community.to raise our voices against it is our right..
mohommad was robbing, raping, murderer according to the history books. (that would be the history books the muslims haven't edited.)
so what does it matter how mohommad is portrayed in cartoons, it will be better than what he did in real life.
and, if you are foolish enough to believe the muslims are peace seekers, forget that idea. otherwise why would a martyr be rewarded for killing infidels? infidels being anyone not a muslim.
according to books?? you're a moron and clearly have no idea who is prophet mohammed.
Prophet mohammed is a peace maker.
I recommend you to go and talk to a history professor in your community that is if you even have one!
and @thehasbeen I have been born and raised in Saudi. And I am mostly defiantly sure there is no word, sentence, or a context in Quran or any in Prophet mohammed's sayings that urge muslim to kill non-muslim.
For your information, one of prophet mohammed's neighbors was a jew and the other was Christian and he treated them with more respect and kindness than muslim just to show how a peace making Islam is.
If you want to read a text of the oldest Muslim history of the life of Muhammad here it is:
http://archive.org/stream/Sirat-lifeOfMuhammadBy-ibnIshaq/SiratIbnIahaqInEnglish#page/n81/mode/2up
For those who want to check out the Quran here you go, take a look yourself:
http://quran.com/1
I'll stick with the history for simplicity.
For those of you reading & commenting here I would highly recommend just taking 5 minutes to look through the links above.
It's not feel good propaganda.
Then why can't they stop killing innocent citizens in d name of Islam in my country! Y? Y?
Who is Prophet Muhammad, may peace and blessings be upon him?
من هو محمّد، صلي الله عليه وسلّم؟
He is the one who defended the rights of all humanity 1400 years ago.
هو الذي دافع عن حقوق كل البشر منذ 1400 عام.
He defended men's, women's and children rights
حفظ حقوق الرجال وحقوق النساء وحقوق الصغار
He commanded and fostered the love between relatives and neighbors
أمر بالحب والود بين الأقارب والجيران
He established a coexistence relationship between Muslims and Non-Muslims
وأسس علاقة تعايش بين المسلمين وغير المسلمين
He organized the relationship between the members of the family putting duties on sons and daughters towards the parents
ونظم العلاقات الأسرية التي تضمن للأب وللأم حقوق كبيرة وعظيمة على أبنائهم
He fought injustice, called for justice, love, unity and cooperation for the good.
منع الظلم ودعا للعدل و المحبة والتكاتف والتعاون للخير
He called for helping the needy, visiting the patients, love and exchanging advises between people.
دعا لمساعدة المحتاج وزيارة المريض والمحبة والتناصح بين الناس
He prohibited (by orders from God) bad manners such as stealing, lying, torturing and murdering.
منع على المسلمين المعاملات السيئة مثل السرقة والغش والقتل والظلم
He is the one who changed our lives and manners to be better.
إنه من غير حياتنا وطباعنا السيئة إلى حسنة
A Muslim doesn't steal
المسلم .. لا يسرق
A Muslim doesn't lie
المسلم لا يكذب
A Muslim doesn't drink alcohol.
المسلم لا يشرب الخمر
A Muslim doesn't commit adultery
المسلم لا يزنى
A Muslim doesn't cheat
المسلم لا يغش
A Muslim doesn't kill innocent people
المسلم لا يقتل الأبرياء
A Muslim doesn't harm his neighbors
المسلم لا يؤذي جارة
A Muslim obeys his parents and helps them
المسلم يبر بوالديه و يخدمهما
A Muslim is kind to young and elderly people, to women and to weak people.
المسلم يعطف على الصغار وعلى النساء وعلى الضعفاء وكبار السن
A Muslim doesn't torture humans or even animals, and does not harm trees
المسلم لا يعذب البشر ولا الحيوانات ولا يؤذي الأشجار
A Muslim loves his wife and takes care of his children and show mercy towards them until the last day of his life.
المسلم يرحم ويحب زوجته ويهتم و يعطف عل أبناءه حتى آخر يوم من عمره
A Muslim's relationship towards his children never stops even when they become adults
المسلم لا تنتهي علاقته بأولاده بعد سن الرشد أبدا
He is Muhammad (PBUH)
إنه محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
Did you know why all Muslims love Muhammad (PBUH)?
هل عرفتم لماذا يحب كل المسلمون محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم؟
Did you know what does Muhammad mean for Muslims?
هل عرفتم ماذا يعنى محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم للمسلمين؟
Every Muslim loves Muhammad (peace be upon him) more than himself and more than everything in his life.
كل مسلم يحب محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم أكثر من كل شئ
Before judging a Muslim be fair and:
قبل أن تحكم علي أي مسلم كن محايد:
1-Listen to this person, and watch his doings.
1- أسمع منه هو شخصياً ، أستمع الي أفكاره ومعتقداته ولاحظ أفعله.
2-Compare his ideas and teachings with what is Islam and Prophet Mohammad PBUH ordered.
2-قم بمقارنة أفكاره ومعتقداته بما دعا له الإسلام.
3-If you think that his thoughts are typical to that of Islam and Prophet Mohammad PBUH, and then compare them with his doings; is he applying these teachings?
3- إذا تطابقت أفكاره ومعتقداته مع ما دعا له الإسلام فأنظر إلي أفعاله، هل هي متطابقة مع أفكاره ومعتقداته؟
4-If he is applying these teachings and sayings, so for sure represents Islam, if not then he calls himself a Muslim but doesn't represent Islam.
4- إذا كانت أفعاله تطابق أفكاره ومعتقداته فهو يمثل الإسلام، إذا كانت تتناقض فهو يدعي أنه مسلم ولكن لا يمثل الإسلام
Hint: Prophet Mohammad is the best Muslim, no Muslim can be as perfect as he was, Muslims try their best to be the typical Muslim like Prophet Mohammad PBUH but sometimes they disobey God and Prophet Mohammad PBUH as they are normal humans who are subject to do wrong but the repent and get back to the right path.
ملحوظة: محمّد صليا لله عليه وسلم هو أفضل مسلم، لا يمكن لأي مسلم أن يكون في كماله ولكن المسلمون يبذلون قصاري جهدهم ليكونوا المسلم المثالي الذي رأوه في محمد صلي الله عليه وسلم، أحياناً يعصون الله ورسول الله محمد لأنهم بشر معرضون للخطأ ولكنهم يتوبون ويعودون للطريق الصحيح.
You can know more about Prophet Mohammad PBUH on this website: http://rasoulallah.net/
I don't know where Muslims die when when 9/11 or 26/11 takes place. I know many places on the face of the earth where Osama-minded people are being worshiped. Why? Which Muslim of the world questions it? Muslims do not give not give any freedom to any other religion in Arab world then why these viruses demand freedom from the people of the world. I do agree no peace-loving Muslim should ever be hurt but a terrorist one must be eliminated. There is no doubt in it that Quoran allows violence on the name of religion. So whats wrong if somebody criticizes that? Muslims must abandon their way and walk on the road of universal brotherhood though its unlikely but essential for survival.
You are totally wrong. The Quran denounces voilence. The Quran states: If anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
Islam and the Holy Quran also forbids to kill innocent children and women. Not a single place in Quran does it allow you to kill an innocent person. I urge you to read the Holy Quran for yourself because it's full of divine wisdom and the Holy Quran is the only book that has never been corrupted. Peace!
All we have 2do now is 2pray 4peace all over d world nd people shld jst respt 1another rigth tanks d muslim broders shld jst cam dwn so dat peace ll rain
it is charb I can't understand why he is disguised
All these blasphemous acts are well premiditated inorder to drag muslims to voilence,so that they can be collectively stereotyped as terrorist.The islamic countries must unite and say no to these sacrillege.
mercel and thehasbeen death to you both and may your dirty souls rest in hell. All we knew was that the jews are on an urgly mission through their western tools and by God grace it would be unattainable.
The cartoons or anything else that get muslims riled up about is 'free speech' and protected by law. The muslims are taught to kill non-muslims! Islam does not teach tolerance, love, and caring as many religions. By Muslims outrageous reactions to anything to do with their Islamic religion, they are trying to scare people into not having 'free speech' or actions. Their intentions are to scare individuals that they will be in danger for their lives.....it is pure nazism!
The individuals or groups that think they can break the law by killing, threatening or destroying property b/c of some perceived insult to Mohammed are common criminals and need to be apprehended and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the applicable laws.
So true
Religion of peace my #$$
They kill over anything books movies sayings.............
They misuse the word "freedom of speech". Don't mock others religion, idiot.
peace be up on all of u ( this is my greating) .to know the difference between the killers nd those who defend thier lands nd thier believes just try to read the history of palestien under the authority of islamic caliphs nd the european kings nd nw by jews in israel. simply u will know who is the peace makers . nd if u r interested to increase that knowledge, this is islamic site to know the real islam http://www.islam-guide.com/
If they call it freedom of speech i perceive it as the madness of the highest order of the 21st century.
Thank you Mr. Mohammed! You are right about the timing of the cartoon. Yes, how studip! I hope the Islamic World knows that the Non-Islamic World is watching their reaction. Yes, there are more protest, but you are seeing less guns being replace with signs! I hope that the Islamic World continues to move itself in this path, so people like me who are not Islamic can continue to support Islam verbally with "how studip was that."
Christians have peaceful mentality? Ask the Red Indians , aboriginals , Aztecs and other people who have been hunted down by guys with bibles in hand!
Christiane, countries that has no freedom should not enforce their rules on us. We have freedom of speech and they should respect that. They can ban those pictures and movies in their countries if they choose to.
exactly
Quoted below is a description of the Gayssot Act, which highlights the hypocrisy of the French when it comes to free speech.
"In France, the Gayssot Act, voted for on July 13, 1990, makes it illegal to question the existence of crimes that fall in the category of crimes against humanity as defined in the London Charter of 1945, on the basis of which Nazi leaders were convicted by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-46. When the act was challenged by Robert Faurisson, the Human Rights Committee upheld it as a necessary means to counter possible antisemitism.[23]"
And so it seems that if an issue is sensitive for the people of Europe, France is willing to pass laws criminalizing free speech and expression on that topic. If the issue is sensitive to others, though, the French are happy to lecture about the importance of dissent in a democracy. They, apparently, still have an imperialist, racist mindset.
Christiane, I bet if anyone in europe can dare excercise 'freedom of speech' by speaking against holocaust or praising Nazi and would escape the wrath of power elite who governs this world.
why is it only Muhammad that the cartoonist in europe or west do 'reguar journalism' on
And I ask CNN to have courage to to publish this comment.
doesnt freedom include freedon to love, as well as to hate. When there is a choice, there is freedom. Choosing freedom to speak the truth witout love, is as good as speaking truth in hate and harvesting the same in responces from those the message is directed. The intolerant are to be blamed for the resulting mob rule, and the messanger is also to be blamed for the seeds of hate sown. So must the messanger be silent; or should he speak with wisdom to bring forth a "convincing" message that the masses will listen to?
Ms Amanpour, Do not hold this paper responsible for future Muslim violence. I have lost respect for you after this interview.
"Future Muslim violence" is everyones responsibility EXCEPT the Muslims. You just prooved what we have been talking about all this while.
Wait a minute, Muslims mobs in the UK, Europe and other Western countries are allowed to insult their host countries and call for jihad against the West, et cetera, et cetera but then they get upset over cartoons? They have this PC thing all figured out and seem to have free license to offend and incite yet are so easily offended and apologists blame a cartoonist?
I bet you are an atheist and have no morals ....
People who kill innocets are murderers and have no morals.
The people who think it is justfied to intimidate and kill innoocents, have no morals.
When the Muslim world produces deeply offensive and anti-semitic movies that are shown on TV during Ramadan (for example the Protocols of the Elders of Zion), the Israeli government protests officially and the Israelis do not go on burning the embassies of the Moslem countries that display these movies and the Jews all over the world do not go and protest and act violently. Moslems should calm down and be more mature!
Holocaust was all made up. Banning of hijab and having minerats for mosques is against freedom of expression of ones beliefs. West should stop being such a hypocrite.
At least they allowed muslims to migrate into there country and also allowed them practise what they believe. Can the same thing be said of the middle east where no other religion must trive except islam. Muslims need to appreciate the west.
But banning hijab, isn't that not giving women the chance to wear what they want? 😉
The french have no morals .. look at their president
This is hypocrisy at its core there are western journalist jailed for denying the Holocoust. Also there is a different between free speech about something and gross insults to (and it is an insult) and hate promotion of people of certain race, religion or other.
Its against freedom of expression not allow magazines to publish pictures of kate. It doesn't matter if people get hurt. Freedom of expression matters most for filthy people such as the photographers who want to make a quick buck and also for the people who made the movie innocence of muslims .... being disrespectful and expressing yourself is totally different. There is no morality left in the west with all their double standards.
I am sick Of this Muslim crap.Get out of the West if our culture offends you so much!
And we like the fact you are making ISLAM famous thinking you are hurting them!
Freedom of speech? Freedom of speech my foot!!!!!!! People can can all this harm to a community they call freedom of speech? Ahmed Babar a British citizen is being detained for eight years with trial for an allegation of having website that encourages jihad! Up to now they dnt have prove and that's why he has never been on trail! Even if he had a website isn't that freedom of expression??? why detain him and leave one who filmed a blaspheme of a prophet and caused all this killngs and unrest in the world?? Really this is injustice towards ISLAM .
The people who kill are solely responsible for the killing.
Isn't there anything in your teachings about self control to the extent you don't kill.
What hypocricy.
What about the freedom to deny the holocaust
The freedom to wear the niqab.
The freedom to build minarets
The freedom of HT to express their views
The freedom to live with dignity
If there are no international laws that prevent religious vilification and google/ youtube refuse to follow their published code of conduct for dealing with these matters, then we are really powerless to engage and prevent this type of provocation on an intellectual, legal or political level. This will only empower people who perceive that the laws are unfair and specifically descriminate Muslims to take the law into their own hands. Although all of the Sheikhs in Sydney have denounced violent protests, they still do not have control of people who are enraged and prefer to resort to physical rather than intellectual means to obtain their rights in defence of their faith. The white supremist will take this opportunity to flame the issue further leading to a viscious cycle of violence. We should learn from history because we are repeating the same mistakes that led to holocaust, genocide in bosnia, rawanda, norway and other atrocities.
Ozmir my posting is for you and everyone else that shares your thoughts!
Seriously he can't speak english let him speak french and do the translation it's stupid to accept this interview!
If u have a brother , sister a love one or even your child who is ASTHMATIC, will you spray anything that will provoke the ailment. yes you may be free to do whatever but for the sake of love and peace in the world lets learn to leave together. Sal am / Shalom ? Peace and life to all.
Be clean and lets know the motive . is it for a fun, education or what, i hear someone said it democracy, brethren your 2year old would even not buy in to this please come again
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Than y nt to apply same rule on holocaust? As ho will decide wt is sacred.......
To deny the Holocaust one will go to jail for six years in Europe, because such denial affects the feelings and sensibilities of Jews, but to do or say something against Islam and also against the feelings and sensibilities of Muslims is most welcome in Europe. Fine, it is time the Muslim World re-assess its relationship with the West.
By migrating en masse out of the west for a start.
Jews have long pointy noses, short penises and ugly facial hair!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see CNN.com post this comment and let's see how many people label me anti-semite!!
There are BILLIONS of people in the world, with BILLIONS of opinions.
If any one of us wants to be insulted, all we have to do is look hard enough....
The Muslims insult the Jews, the Jews insult the Muslims, the Muslims burn down Christian Churches, the Christians aren't happy & make a film, the Muslims riot & kill the agnostics/athiests point out the lack of "Peace" in the "Religion of Peace" and make cartoons, the Muslims riot more and probably more die.........
You get the idea. Pretty stupid when you think about it........
There have been hundreds of satirical cartoons of Bin Laden sadomizing Jesus and or the Pope, how about riots of Christians burning Muslims and starting a crusade because of this, never you will never see it, why we have a choice and respect freedoms of expression ? Continue to burn and destroy all you do is move closer to the other side of the evolutionary scale and accomplish nothing but the opposite of what you so desperately seek ! Remember respect and human dignity = peace !
Muslims have a code of conduct in the Quran that prevents them from making fun of another religion. The obvious reason is that some people may unknowingly make fun of our religion in return. You would think that our society is advanced enough to have similar laws and codes of conduct the protect people from hearing offensive remarks aiming at something they love dear, more than they love themselves? I have never heard a Muslim make fun of Jesus, Buddah, Hindu Gods, Jewish faith etc. Not one Muslim out of 1.6 billion people has ever stooped to that low level.
Ozmir you do not have to work hard to find satirical cartoons or drawings of Jesus, and other religions, look at markets in Egypt, Morroco, Tunisia. The issue is understanding and consideration of the source, you can´t judge an entire population for the actions of a few, thus why protesting with violence and anger does not help you and the rest of the Muslim community the terrorism and hatred you breed will only hurt that respect and understanding you desire, you will never get it with the wrong actions, rise above it and ignore it, and it will go away use the power of indifference, fight it with fire and the fire will consume you eventually, hatred leads you nowhere.
I don't see how I can insult the very core of who you are and what defines you ...and then claim its freedom of speech..
It's just like how I can beat the hell of who you are and claim its freedom of action!
Our Prophet (pbuh) has long been insulted provoked and harrassed in many ways and he never took revenge for himself but only stood up for righteousness and justice...and so we are not protesting for what has been said or what has been expressed but protesting against the disrespect and the brutality at which we are treated...and how lightly our most sacred and most precious beliefs are taken..
Freedom of speech must hve limits or everone can insult anything , if freedom of speech doesn't have limits then we going to talk about all the taboos , did the holycoust really happen or was just an opprtounity to catch people attention
One cannot expect that after mocking at a particular community,you will be immediately forgiven. Respect and dignity are mutual in any bilateral relationship.
Like most, if not all, civil codes the world over, neither that of the US, nor that of France define vilification of religions a civil right. It isn't free speech any more than slander. Why aren't charges brought against the imbeciles who caused the violent outrage in muslim countries?
Polls show that people tend to agree on one thing: freedom is a sacred value and everybody's freedom of speech should be respected. But respect is another core value of society. Ethics of journalism should prevent cartoons of that kind https://poutsch.com/question/1003669
specially all anti-Muslims plz don ignore and don think bad about Islam becoz Islam is the religion that in force all Muslims to respect all the religions that are prevailing in all our the world .....so when we are respecting all religion so how can we give you permission to do such a cheap tantrums ...freedom of speech means that you have right to say about your oun rights about your own country ...but not in religion or any other religions!!!!!!!!!!
say whatever you want to say but on your own religion not on others...!!!!
Talking such thinks just about islam and doing these kind of rubish thinks , Is that your freedom of expression????? ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE . If i start writing any thing about your believes on twitter or facebook , u people will just block my account saying that its forum for all bla bla bla..... Now tell us what is this u are doing on media >What I can say to you.... Just SHAME ON YOU..................................
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Why is it freedom of speech to mock others religion? Start respecting others religion christians, don't mock them.
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