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Amanpour: How Obama and Romney see Iran’s nuclear ambition
This is part of a series on foreign policy issues Christiane Amanpour is analyzing in the-lead up to next week’s presidential debate on foreign affairs.
By Christiane Amanpour, CNN & ABC
The international war of nerves over Iran ebbs and flows.
Talk that Israel, the United States, or both might launch a pre-emptive military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities has been ever-present this year - but with the U.S. presidential election less than a month away, the idea of starting another war in the Middle East seems to have faded, at least for now.
Robert Gates, former U.S. Secretary of Defense under both Presidents Obama and George W. Bush, said in a speech this week: “The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could, in my view, prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world."
“(A strike would) make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable. They would just bury the program deeper and make it more covert," he said.
Iran and its nuclear ambitions present perhaps the most difficult strategic dilemma in the world today, directly affecting Israel, Arab states, Europe and of course the United States.
Bill Clinton not persuaded by Iran on nuclear weapons
The most important ingredient required to resolve this standoff would be a functional relationship between Iran and the United States, at least one in which officials from both sides could engage in extended and constructive diplomacy.
But they cannot.
The Iran-U.S. relationship was broken after the Islamic revolution of 1979 and has been dysfunctional ever since.
For 33 years, deep mistrust on both sides, coupled with election year politics in both countries, has made any meaningful diplomacy moot. So the name of the game has been nuclear management.
If President Obama wins a second term, will he revive his early first term offer of a new approach to Iran - to resolve once and for all the nuclear case - or will the war drums beat louder again?
So far Obama’s administration has launched covert actions and sabotage efforts against Iran's nuclear facilities.
It has also imposed the toughest sanctions ever on Iran. The European Union has done so as well.
Last week saw the collapse of the Iranian riyal and flash street protests in Tehran. The crippling sanctions are hurting ordinary Iranians like never before. They are hurting the economy and therefore the state itself, but they have not changed the government's position: that it has the right to enrich uranium under international law.
Iran says its program is for peaceful civilian purposes, and a senior Iranian official laid out for me a detailed proposal for ending this nuclear impasse by improving trust and transparency.
Mohammad Javad Larijani, a senior adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader, called for a step-by-step process whereby the U.S. and its allies would receive total transparency from Iran, in return for lifting sanctions and providing security guarantees among other things.
But the U.S. and Iran are at odds over sequencing.
President Obama has vowed never to allow a nuclear-armed Iran, but says he believes there is still time for diplomacy to work as the sanctions take their toll.
But several rounds of talks between the U.S., its allies and Iran have not been conclusive, and a former member of Iran's nuclear negotiating team told me that so far the U.S. is "offering peanuts for diamonds".
Governor Romney has a lower bar than President Obama, saying if he were president he would not accept Iran reaching "nuclear weapons capability."
But experts are divided as to what exactly that means and how it would be defined.
In his recent foreign policy speech Romney said: “I'll put the leaders of Iran on notice that the United States and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability.”
The word "capability" means Romney’s red line is in a different place than Obama’s. Romney appears to be implying that any enrichment of uranium to weapons-grade would be prevented. What concerns Israel and the West is the possibility that Iran might further enrich uranium to weapons grade and divert it to a military program. So far there is no evidence that Iran has done that according to the United States.
On a visit to Israel this summer, Romney seemed to back a pre-emptive Israeli attack on Iran, and his rhetoric has been more bellicose than Obama's. But like the president, Romney calls for "crippling sanctions."
Iran is convinced that the U.S. nuclear pressure is really about “regime change” – a phrase Obama has steered clear of using. But Romney says it’s worth working with groups inside Iran “to encourage regime change.”
In an interview with 60 Minutes, Obama told CBS’ Steve Kroft, “If Governor Romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so.”
No one is going to lose the U.S. election by sounding and acting too tough on Iran, but resolving this nuclear issue will require creative and comprehensive engagement, and direct U.S.-Iranian negotiations. Doing so would set the stage for a more stable and secure Middle East and the world.
It could be the next U.S. president's greatest foreign policy achievement.
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How are your friends in the Taliban?
When America could not solve STONE AGE Afghanistan return to normalcy, what nonsense is they talking to teach Tehran a threat of war? America is fleeing tails down from stone age Afghanistan in 2014, and after that the country will be going into the unknown once again. All talks of a war against Iran is TOTAL BLUFF, TOTAL HUMBUG. And even if there is a war, It will be Iran who will win in the long term and the world will have to pay a toll charge to Iran for oil passing through Hormuz.
There is NO way that Iran will be able to maintain a closure there. It is int,l waters. All of Iran,s ships will be damaged or sunk, and their key ports destroyed.
All this basically because WHITES are gradually losing their grip and domination on the world. White population is on rapid decline. You white-trash don't read big books so atleast do a Google search and you'll know what I mean.
No doubt the wheels are turning against the Persians. The US and the Israelis are waiting for Assad to fall and be replaced by a new leadership that is more pliant to western policies and strategies. Without friendly Syrian airspace, any preemptive attack on Iran will be fraught with dark possibilities not that it will be a cinch.
What happens after may or may not resemble Afghanistan but Iran had already survived a war with Iraq which was supported by American arms and has one more reason to be resilient in the face of so-called 'crippling' international sanctions led by its arch-nemesis.
History has taught that nationalism is a very powerful unifier and motivator and people are more willing to sacrifice for their country's sovereignty and independence even in the face of overwhelming military technology and weaponry as evidenced by the Vietnam war and lately the Afghans.
Certainly the Iranians will try to reinforce this lesson to their utmost. The rest, as they say, will be history.
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You are arrogant and uneducated if you believe that America, in a long-term war against a conventional force against Iran, would lose. Afghanistan has had mostly negative publicity because they don't show all the good that America has done there. But, in a conventional war against a force obsolete to the United States Armed Forces, there is absolutely no way that they can sustain operations against us without the use of nuclear weapons (and thats assuming that they have them)
If there will be a war in the area it will be Iran who will initiate it and it will be Iran sho will be reduced to a stone age as a result. For some it will look like a "win for Iran", of course.
That would be Iran,s biggest blunder if it does ..... Unless that was Iran,s intentions to begin with. Frankly, I doubt it.
If you doubt that Iran intends to acquire nuclear weapons you should have no troubles to explain how will Iran possibly USE hundreds of those nuclear capable long-asnd intermediate range ballistic missiles it acquired during the last several years. These missiles cost at least $3 million each and are virtually harmless without proper warheads.
I think it will be Israel who would strike Iran first NOT Iran.
Ha Ha guys are answering their own questions. If America got defeated by STONE AGE Afghanistan, similarly America will be defeated by stone age Iran.
You wished. We didn't,t go there to conquer but to punish those involved in 911. I,m SUREThey got the messages. As for Iran, don,t bet on boots there. Very few most likely. The aim would' be to paralyze their nuke weapons efforts. You can,t seem to think properly because you don,t understand.
>>We didn't,t go there to conquer but to punish those involved in 911
So destroying an entire nation is "punishing those involved in 9/11" – when none of the hijackers were even from Afghanistan?
The authoress quotes Robert Gates : "Robert Gates, former U.S. Secretary of Defense under both Presidents Obama and George W. Bush, said in a speech this week: “The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could, in my view, prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world."
What a realistic viewpoint this man has! Most of the people just have the movie Armageddon in their mind and think America will save the world by default. Well, seeing movies has what lead people to advocate invading Iraq, Afghanistan.
Here are things that can happen which Gates might have foreseen when he made the comment
a) Iran will produce a million Osama bin Ladens. each bin Laden having his own project in mind. Life will be even more exiting then. The Iranians are known to work very hard, even eating grass, to achieve their objectives.
b) Oil price would have spiked to over 500 dollars, which causes worldwide shock, including America – where Obama will be squarely blamed for not doing enough before hand to withstand the shock. In fact even if oil reaches that price, the oil will not be available, because the insurance companies would have stopped the underwriting business for ships passing through Hormuz. The strategic reserves will not help.
c) Response from Pakistan, who will not tolerate any attack on Iran. Earlier this year when Israel had threatened to attack Iran in April to June, it was Pak's lady foreign minister who went on record, her country will prevent the west from attacking. Pakistan has more than 150 nuclear bombs. This has not been factored in the article.
d) About two thirds of world's LNG passes through Hormuz. If LNG tankers are hit, the effect will be unthinkable. It will melt nearby countries. The winds will carry the heat to Israel, Europe, Asia & Africa. Qatar is the world's biggest LNG producers. The effect will be really really unbelievable.
e) The aircraft carriers are powered by a nuclear reactor engine sitting inside the ship. There are 6000 americans on board. And presently there are two such carriers. Iran could fire a barrage of anti ship missiles and if this nuclear reactor gets punctured, we have a full scale Chernobyl in the center of the Persian Gulf. And rescuing 12000 marines is an impossibility. Hundreds of americans will get captured by the Iranians. Dont even think how they will be treated. Destruction of an aircraft carrier will be history's biggest slap on the face of the American taxpayer.
f) Russia, China and India will get sucked into the war and will take sides with Iran. It will be a world war.
g) Egypt will close the Suez Canal – total excitement in life. Iran will still be successful in closing Hormuz, even if it means the Iranians eat grass, because they know the west will not eat grass. It is extremely expensive and practically impossible to keep a tab on marine terrorists. A small Iranian speedboat with a rocket launcher will sink a supertanker. Later, as a settlement, the world will have to pay a Hormuz transit fee to Iran. Remember – Hormuz is as close to Iran as the Potomac to Washington DC or The Thames to London.
h) Worldwide reactions on Israel and the Jews, blaming them for everything
Concluding, the gist of the whole story is THERE WILL BE NO WAR. ALL TALK OF A WAR IS EMPTY TALK, HISTORY'S BIGGEST BLUFF.
You are wrong. The US has clearly said that it won,t allow Iran to have nukes. Also, I assure you that the Israelis will do something about it.
But thus far, there is not a shred of credible evidence that Iran is even trying to get nukes.
Iran has the right to have a non-military nuclear program – and even enrich uranium.
Denying that right or threatening Iran with war, on the other hand, is illegal by international law.
Vin you are right on some perspectives but you lost me on iran closing the straight of hormuz, they dont have the military "navy capabilities and if the did so they will invite not only saudi arabia but also the eu, nato, uk, russia, india and china against them, the only country that can provide difficulty in a naval war is russia plain and simple. to me irans speedboats are a laughing stock, take a look at operation preying mantis, irans navy got destroyed by the US and is still recovering today!!! and as for the nuclear aircraft, you honestly think the us will be stupid enough to put a nuclear aircraft carrier in the caspian sea, they'll most likely dock the ship in the arabian sea and launch aircrafts and bombers from there, away from irans missle capabilities, plus also us first objectives will be to take those missles out, and irans military technology is from the 78 to mid 84's, it is out dated! As for robert gates he is right it will provide a global economic problem because of the straight, countries will get involved and this is why obama doenst favor military action just yet! to me i honestly dont care if iran has nukes, if the launch one there country is done!!! also i will expect our navy to rely on nuclear submarines and launch tomahawk cruise mssles, it will be like another libya, airdefenses are down, and take out irans missle sites, then the next step will be a land war!
kevin, if the "powers" that be wanted to attack Iran, they world have already done so long time back. The problem is they dont have the money. And over that we seem to be to deluded into thinking that having Tomahawks and nuclear submarines will ensure SUCCESS BY DEFAULT. Sorry, the real world does not work that way. Our generation has gotten too carried away by war games on computer and by seeing the box offices. Any war against Iran will have enormous bad consequences howmuchever technologically Iran's enemies are.
And mind you, Russia and China's main enemy is not Iran. It is America. Make no mistake about that. So therefore in case of an Iran attack, these guys will side Iran.
Simplistic guys think bomb bomb Iran to defeat and subjugation, and then the world will achieve peace and tranquility FOR EVER AND EVER. In 1969, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin landed their space module on the moon at a a site of a big crater called “Sea of Tranquility”. If Iran is attacked, this tranquility will exist only on the moon. Not on earth. The heroes and their people will have to relocate to the moon permanently.
Kevin, you must must learn to spell, It is not the "Straight" but the "Strait of Hormuz", the word you are looking for is "praying mantis". Many of the points you make are good but would be much better if they were geographically correct, and spelled right.
Vin... You forgot to explain the reasons IRAN will not start a war. Until now Iranian leaders were doing everything they can to convince the world that they're going to develop nuclear weapons and will use these weapons to destroy Israel. If you believe that Iranian leaders were BLUFFING can you explain the reasons they were doing it? After all, Iranian BLUFF can succeed and the West WILL be convinced that Iranian nuclear intentions are TRUE...
Hey Thinker23, what are we talking about? Iran SAID they are building a bomb? Please post even one url (website) where Iran's leaders said they are building the bomb. This is preposterous. Iran is NOT building the bomb. The IAEA has said that, the whole world knows about it. This is just a plain and simple cowboy game play in the international arena. I dont like you so I am gonna finish you off. Thats all about it. Iran is in the wrong side of the "powers" that be. I hope you know Iran's oil was OWNED by the Anglo Iranian Oil Company (later known as BP) in the 30s when Iran was under British control. They paid 20,000$ for full ownership of the oil. I suggest you study the whole story of Iran's oil history and then comment.
Americans have nuclear weapons and so does Israelies, why not Iran if they want to have one?.... Oh may be cause Iran is involved in terrisom, may be wolrd think Taliban belongs to Iran? The number of wars US got involved in tells me that Iran is far more better than Iran... FYI, N.Korea also have nuclear weapon, why dont US go attack and save the world
>>Until now Iranian leaders were doing everything they can to convince the world that they're going to develop nuclear weapons and will use these weapons to destroy Israel
Please post even one single URL to a credible source that proves this right wing fascist propaganda statement.
vin you are still wrong, russia will not side with iran, china maybe but russia no, why because russia only will like to use irans resources, they will want oil, same with the us, if iran is attacked and regime change even happened, irans oil will be up for grabs, it is basically called economic terrorism! technically were already at war with iran, sanctioning a country is basically declaring war! russia has already pressed sanctions against iran.so the only allies iran has is pakistan, syria Venezuela. plus if us did go to war russia will probably sell iran military supplies and knowing that they dont know how to use them it will benefit yet america, one thing i do know is I as a american dont support ay attack on iran, it is stupid why? because it will cost us money!
kevin, I still think Russia may side with Iran. Actually Russia is unpredictable. You cant judge their intention. Remember The part of Ossetia (I think North Ossetia) – when it was raided by the Georgians during the second term of W, just days before the Russians suddenly appeared on the horizon in Ossetia and crushed brutally the invading Georgian forces, W and Putin were cheering a soccer match. W said while returning home, I saw through Putin's eyes and could see his soul. I fell a sense of confidence on Putin. And see what turned out. Massive disappointment. Condy Rice was screaming but the Russians were not budging.
Bottomline is ok you may say Russia might side with America, my opinion is it is 50:50. But China's adversary is really America.
Hey Vin, interesting points raised. i think that if they ever go to war, they'll regret it real bad. Should learn to stop bullying other nations and stop being arrogant.
You are also wrong. LOL wait and see.
Those who still believe in Armageddon should join the military, get trained and get posted in the Persian Gulf. And then have dreams of hitting Iran. Not punch some soft keys of the computer hiding somewhere.
Here are things that might happen if Tel Aviv is attacked with a nuclear device. Israel will retaliate with its nuclear weapons and destroy the oil fields of Iran. Iran will retaliate and attack the oil fields of Saudi Arabia. The entire area will be contaminated and then the radiation will spread to the rest of the world contaminating food supplies. Oil will be $50 s gallon. The American economy will grind to a halt. The Blacks and Mexicans will crawl out of the woodwork and riot and loot. It will be chaos. We will have a standard of living comparable to Kenya, which should make Obama's legacy de-evolution. This is not like the Holocaust. You start killing Jews en masse and the rest of the world comes down with us. So think about that. It is in America and the world's self interest not to let the Iranian Hitler get the bomb.
We gonna have a Tahrir Square in almost all the world's top country capitals. Almost all the governments will be overthrown.
Yeah, buy your War Bonds now. The Jews are.
The new president is not a Muslim and will blow Iran to Islam Gone. Then take the Muslims oil.
If he decides to attack, he will be overthrown by his own people, because the whole country will pay gas at 25$ or more. Companies will layoff millions of jobs because they will not be able to produce goods economically, moreover there will be no buyers for their products. You want that kinda situation eh? You will yourself take part in the overthrow project I WILL BET!
If their were no AIPAC we would not have any problems with Iran
You are absolutely right. can you imagine a war with Iran, a country of 80 million people. The USA could not handle Iraq a country of 29 million people, everyday a suicide attack. Imagine the suicide attacks by Iran and their allies throughout the world. We had 200 billion dollar debt from Iraq alone, imagine the debt from a war with Iran. Israel needs to understand that they are losing the demographic war with Palestinians. We need a two state solution and now. Just withdraw from the occupied territories and let there be a Palestine again.
Also in my opinion I dont like lsrael, they always want us americans to do their dirty work, I believe we should just cut there aid, and trade talks and sanction them to keep them in line! I am like a geoprge washington, stay out of peoples business!!! we may be a superpower but it doesnt givee small countries the right to try and let us do there dirty business!!!
No one can predict with certainty what would happen once the "dogs of war" are let loose-Suffice to say there will be destruction and chaos on a massive scale.These types of situations take on a life of their own and could well be the end of this civilization as we now know it considering the number of nukes that would come into play!
Personally, I think American should take actions to control the Iran's enrichment of uranium. Because once Iran own the enrich technique, they may start to use it to invade other countries or endanger, or even intimidate. Doing the santion is necessary, but the attack first is the most important step to prevent them from enriching uranium. By doing so, the United States can solve the problem, once for all, which Iran may cause in the future.
Good luck Mitt Romney, do not be provoked into.
The most important ingredient required to resolve this standoff would be a functional relationship between Iran and the United States, at least one in which officials from both sides could engage in extended and constructive diplomacy."
Good luck. The IRI's structural foundation as a state is dysfunctional. Even Khamenie does not have all the power at all times. He could not rein in Hojatieh and IRGC intime to prevent the sanctions. How can anyone trust such an ustable government?
P.S.: beware of MOIS and VEVAK agents writingon this site.
People inside Iran are already suffering from these sanctions.
Many cancerous patients are not able to afford medications anymore since US imposed sanctions have destroyed Rials value and only few people might get access to expensive cancer medicines.
I mean, do people in the US or Israel really care? Do Americans really care?
Why does America always make ordinary middle eastern people suffer for its own foreign policies. What do you expect from cancerous and dying people to do for you, westerners? Remove the government?!
Are you human beings?
Damp – the Iranian people are suffering for the policies of their government. The Iranian gov't has repeatedly lied to UN/Internationlal groups about their enrichment programs and capabilities. To expect anyone to believe them now is a joke, which is what the program from Mohammad Javad Larijani is asking for – trust us in a step-by-step process (i.e. remove sanctions, and then we'll talk). Pressure works. Yes, unfortunate for the Iranian citizens – it's the same everywhere. Unfortunate for Syrians they cannot choose their own govt. Unfortunate for Lebanese they have to split their country into regions controlled by diff milias. Unfortunate for Pakistan they have a Tribal Regional that is completely outside govt control, so assasians can plan the killing of children. Unfortunate for Africans that so many nations cannot rule for the good of the people instead of amassing wealth for the rulers.
And BTW – you seem to forget – nations engage in foreign policy decisions for the benefit of their own nation, not the other nation. There are certainly mutually benefical results from such engagement, but don't be fooled about whose interest is being looked after.
Iran is not making nuclear weapons. It's only the Israelis which are convincing the gullible americans to start another war for them.. and since the jewish lobby is the strongest, second only to the powerful indian lobby, we will see a wasteful war....the strong killing the weaker,
The strong killing the weak? Maybe. Iran will probably slaughter the invading forces. Iranian army is 5th or 6th strongest in the world, actually.
Who had created the Islamic country – Iran. The France and its allies on one side and the CIA of America on the other side had created the white elephant. Ex President Mr. Jimmy Carter had back stabbed the Late Mahmud Reza Shah Pehlvi of Iran. Shah never reigned in terror but kept the Mullas at bay. He had well maintained the balance of power in the Middle East. Why Ms. Amanpour is kept quiet on this subject. I ask her to get the real story on late Shah of Iran, so that to-days' generation will come to know with the real story of the past era. As Jesus say : As you sow you shall reap !
Fighting wars is the easy part. Finding peace is the hard part.
This is why we needed Ron Paul, he would have kept us out of israel's wars.
In my opinion it don't matter who becomes to President. If Obama stays it will go smooth for few months & Then war. I don't understand US is already in debt because or IRAQ (Which was False) & Now on Iran. US Need to leave Israel alone & let them handle their problems. Israel does not care about US economy in that care we Americans are the who will take a loss & won't be afford to get Gas.
AT THE END WHO WILL SUFFER? IRAN, ISRAEL Or US?
More US Soldiers will die. Israel just want US to do their dirty Job while they cant take care of their own country.
WAR is never a solution for any country.
The mullahs want nuclear weapons because that’s the only way they can survive and that’s the key for them. They’ll continue to wait time until they get it..
KC is right, i am an iranian and i can tell you Mullahs know they go unless they have the bomb and nothing, absolutly nothing on negitiation desk will change their mind. unless they realized they will go sooner if they want the bomb !
Ulq213....you my friend are just straight stupid. Don't be so mad and post ridiculous comments, instead just punch your pink teddy bear (in your grandmother's basement) and sceam life sucks.
Well it's right, and Israel always asked america to fight and attack Iranian ,but I don't know if america doesn't want to involve again for dirty war in arab territory, probably israel become a ruin !!
First of all Iran is not a arab country, Iran means land of Aryans, so thoose of you who call yourself white because of your eurpean ancestry please dont, you are yellow both in skincolour and haircolour. The true whites comes from Iran.
Second of all, these empty threats coming from you (EU and US), please stop it, if you had the ball to attack Iran, you would have done it long time ago. Once you have been attacking Iran via your CIA agent Saddam Hussein, and Iran had to fight Iraq for eight long years, but Iraq Saddam Hussein had the support from 49 countries, which meant that he both got the supplies of weapons and soldiers, but Iran won that war. And Iran will win this war against the anglosaxian jewish mutuation power. Remember Iranians are the true aryans, and like our forefathers will fight like true soldiers.
Best regards
True aryan soldier
Who are you americans or europeans to even speak about Iran, you and your dirty history, go and look how beautiful history Iran has. You americans and europeans still divide people based on their skin colour, this is how retard you are, and you are more retard to believe that you are white, which you are not.
Iran is one of the oldest if not the oldest country on the face of this planet, Dont say thing about her when you even dont know 1 % of her culture, history, society etc etc. Irans history is based on king Kourosh being the first man to declare human rights (even though is doesnt exist in Iran today), but you retard americans and europeans have a history of mistreating people coming from Africa and other places.
Last time a checked Iranian history and your american/european history, its very clear that Iran hasnt declared war against any other country for over 250 years, but you can definitely say differently about you europeans and americans. Last time you destroyed afghanistan and Iraq, but dont think that Iranians will sit on standby, the iranians that are aryans will defend her borders like its the holiest task given to them in their life.
And for all the israelis and jewish people and also AIPAC, Iran is and will be the only country in the history of the world that has defended the jews, Iran was the only country in world war 2 to shelter many europeans jew, iran is the only country toi have had a jewish queen (you probably know Esther, since you celebrate her in Israel), iran has the biggest jewish community outside israel in middle east, iran has enjoyed the good old relation with our jewish brothers/siters, i hope peace is the path you choose and not war, because it would be such shame for the old brotherhood that binds us from the old times of KING KOUROSH.
Dear Aryan, do not for a second think the west will attack Iran. ITS A BIG BIG SHAMELESS BLUFF / NONSENSE / HUMBUG / BOGUS. Iran attack concept is only floated by armchair journalists / armchair strategists / spin doctors / bogeymen / politicians / outright fraudsters. NOT BY THE WESTERN MILITARY GUYS. They (the military guys) know an attack on Iran wont allow the west to solve all their problems in life for ever and ever. The west will spend rest of their future chasing the millions of Osama bin Ladens.
Dear Vin, Im sure that the so called west will not attack Iran when talking about this issue from a military perspective.
But the west has already started a war against the Iranian population when first sanctioning the country, destroying the oil industry, destroying the bank system (stopping the iranian centralbank from being able to do a simple task such as money transfer), stopping all medicine that is needed for the people suffering from different kinds of deadly diseases such as cancer, STUXNET and many other computerviruses in order to probably start a meltdown similar to tjernobyl in iran, and the list is much longer for all the suffering the so called west is causing to the innocent people of Iran (as they have done to Iraq and Afghanistan).
The Iranian population are already kidnapped by the current islamic regime that was installed by the so called west (britain, france, holland, spain, germany, us and many other european countries), so why doesnt the west stops its hypocritical policies. Werent the western countries the ones who put these thugs to power in Iran to begin with. What are they afraid of now, arent they their agents? (the so called supreme leader of Iran, Khamenei, takes direct orders from MI6 and CIA).
The countries in western world has done anything possible to stop the democratic developments Iran, shall we begin operation Ajax, which was a coup de etat, in order to stop the democratically elected primeminister Mossadegh, dont say that the dirty works of western countries have been erased from you own history books. Or shall we start with overthrow of Shah Reza, when the western world realized that he had industrious plans for Iran, he suddenly became dangerous and you overthrew him, in order to let the islamic thugs destroying the LAND OF TRUE ARYANS WHICH IS IRAN AND NOT germany, sweden, holland, norway, not the yellow coloured europeans.
Let me finish by saying that the so called western countries plain simpel are afraid of a industrous Iran, since the Iranians and Iran, have a good capability to become a superpower and that not only in the PERSIAN GULF region but in the hole world and this makes them terrified, since its Iran that can send them back to where they belong and came from which is the dark ages.
Best Regards
True Aryan soldier of Iran
iran
Dear Aryan, I differ with you. The way west thinks of Iran being lead by THUGS and bad men sharply contrasts with the viewpoint held by people on the streets of Iran. The general people of Iran except the young ones, say in the age group below 35 are indifferent to the government. Please reply if you speak from within Iran or west.
Dear Vin, (I dont live in Iran and Im not over 30),
What you are refering to is the way uneducated people think in the hole middle east regardless of age (and not only in Iran).
Why should the west even be allowed to enter different countries while committing so much crimes, maybe the so called young people you are refering to havent followed up what the weapons of west has done to innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, maybe they also should be enlightened of what the so called freedom loving west delivers to them, its not freedom, its blood and devastation, and my question to all countries in the middle east is as follows, why are they always waiting for the so called west to come and save them, the so called western people doesnt think that middle easterners should come and help them, on the contrary they see us as second class citizens.
The people should handle these things by themselves, and not countries coming from outside who will dicatate what we should or shouldnt do, because countries coming from outside has only one thing in mind and that is stealing as much as possible, destroying and making sure that corruption is the best friend of the regime or the goverment that the put in place , so the country the leave will eat up itself from inside.
This is how so called western freedom or democrati works and it can be kept for themselves, we the people of middle east dont need their so called freedom or demoracy, what we want back is the money they have stolen and also those thugs in the west who have killed innocent women, children and men and still are killing, are held responsible for ther actions, such as tony blair, george bush, dick cheney, hillary clinton, hussein obama etc etc, the list is long, and the international court in haag is waiting for them as it waited for thugs such as milosevic from serbia.
So where are you from Vin, you originate from iran probably and live in western country?
(one more thing, the supplied saddam with the wmd(weapons of massdestruction) that killed many innocent people in Iran and to this day over 100000 people in Iran are still suffering from the effects of those weapons, the same weapons that the un inspectors didnt find, but was supplied to saddam from the us, germany, sweden, england, france, etc etc, I think you get the big picture here)
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i know a lot of people will disagree with me but i say just let them have nuclear power and if they use it for nukes just give them a live demonstration of the power of a full on nuclear barrage that will make them think twice before they do it again and we wont make Russia or china mad cause Iran attacked first yea a lot of people will die but if the population keeps rising at this rate we will have to have ww3 as population control or we will all starve to death.
First YOU join the armed forces, get trained and get posting in the Persian Gulf. Right now, you are hiding in the basement of your home, grinding your bottom at the chair and pressing some soft keys of your computer. Get going. QUICK.
k im singing up for the navy in 2 weeks so ill take you up on that
If Obama wins the election, he would continue and magnify the current sanctions and with time the Iranian population will topple its government just like what happened in those Islamic countries during the Arab Spring. I am not sure what Romney will do though. Most Americans are tired or wars too. They will watch the upcoming and final debate (foreign policy) with intense interest.
The "nuclear ambition" of IRAN Is IRRELEVANT and utterly meaningless - For were iran ever to employ a nuclear weapon, it would cease to exist in any practical form other than dust and glass within 48 hours.,
This is all just a Red Herring employed by our Pols (BOTH Stripes) to distract We the People from the fact that our nation is being slowly and stealthily being stolen FROM We the People by those nice guys, The Oligarchy.
This appears to be quite invisible to those inclined ever so slightly (or more) to the Right politically : Beats me as to WHY they are sooooooooo stupid ! ! ! ! ! . No other explanation, for NOT EVERYONE can have been bribed by the Big-O.
AMAN-POUR is Iranian!
If how Iran behaves and how it "negotiates" is not a simple playing for time I don't know what is. Also we should remember that lying to your enemy as acceptable with Muslims and there were multiple examples of it with Iran's recent history. However bad it looks US must have plans for a military intervention. No occupation, please.
Separately, why in heaven do we have to let young Muslim men enter the country on any type of visa. Is it some king of FBI full employment program? Are we looking to see if they can pull 9/11 again? We should write to our best politicians the money can buy and complain.
Our problem is that people in gov who formulate policy towards Iran and most other countries, my native Russia comes to mind, base their policy on what liberal left professors told them in colleges about that country and the world in general. That's the reason of our many "successes". Additionally, our intel is, to put it mildly, inadequate. See Libya. To make a picture full, some of high level folks in the State are de-facto bribed by offers to work for the country they formulate the policy on AFTER their retirement from gov work. Isn't it all great?
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