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Uganda Ethics Minister: homosexual behavior is ‘repugnant’

February 19th, 2014
03:04 PM ET

By Mick Krever, CNN

Homosexual behavior is “repugnant to the lives of the people of Uganda,” Simon Lokodo, the Minister for Ethics and Integrity, told CNN’s Hala Gorani, sitting in for Christiane Amanpour, on Wednesday.

A Ugandan bill passed by parliament in December would punish gay and lesbian people with lengthy prison sentences – including, in some cases, life behind bars.

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has just signed that bill, according to the minister, but has not yet handed it over to parliament.

“If you want to do your thing, do it yourself,” Lokodo said. “But please, don’t embarrass, don’t involve, don’t bring any Ugandan to this activity, because it’s not acceptable.”

U.S. President Barack Obama in a statement said he was “deeply disappointed” in the law and said that it will be a “step backward for all Ugandans.”

Obama also made a tacit threat to remove the several hundred million dollars in aid that the U.S. gives Uganda annually.

“As we have conveyed to President Museveni, enacting this legislation will complicate our valued relationship with Uganda,” he said.

“If Barack Obama likes to help Ugandans,” Lokodo said, “let him help without strings attached, imposing … a behavior and a culture that is non-African, non-Ugandan.”

“We had better die poor than lose our dignity.”

Responding to Lokodo, Ugandan Gay Rights Activist Frank Mugisha said that there is a “high level of ignorance” among most Ugandans.

Activist fights Uganda's anti-gay law

Mugisha, speaking to Gorani from New York, blamed “extreme Christians who have come to Uganda” for skewing the view of homosexuality.

“If you ask ordinary Ugandans about why they fear or why they are very homophobic, they will not have a clear answer to you,” Mugisha said.

“They will just tell you ‘We don’t want homosexuality in Uganda,’ but they won’t give you a very clear explanation. That alone shows that it’s actually because of ignorance.”

Mugisha said that despite the fact that he “could be facing prison if I go back to Uganda,” he plans to challenge the law.

“Even if the law is signed by the president, it still remains very unconstitutional and I am willing, together with my colleagues, to go and challenge this law in our constitutional court.”

Gorani asked Lokodo if the Ugandan government had “bigger problems” than “going after gay people.”

“We do, and we are doing our best to solve our economic problems,” Lokodo said. “But we also want to work [simultaneously] to fight against immoral behavior, or moral decadence.”


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    Ironic how he's the Minister of Ethics and I integrity, but provides no clear explanation on how this is ethical or how it's going to sustain the already diminished integrity of Uganda.

    February 19, 2014 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • Liquidus Snake

      I will support you in any way that I possibly can Gorani and I hope this is soon repealed before things get even more out of hand.

      February 19, 2014 at 11:14 pm | Reply
      • Liquidus Snake

        I meant Frank Mugisha. Whoops.

        February 19, 2014 at 11:25 pm |
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    i don't know how much they paid this full that he is going to come back, you come back and they will arrest you fool
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    February 20, 2014 at 2:23 pm | Reply
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    This guy is disgusting. He is probably closeted himself. What a sad day for Uganda.It amazes me, the sheer ignorance and stupidity of some idiots. And this guy and these that voted and approved this legislation are our infantile morons.

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