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Media in Ukraine ‘under siege,’ says OSCE

April 21st, 2014
04:07 PM ET

By Mick Krever, CNN

Media in Ukraine is “under siege,” a top official from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Monday.

“The situation is extremely dangerous,” Dunja Mijatovic, OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media, said. “I receive reports on intimidation, threats, harassment of journalists on a daily basis. Today, even on the hourly basis.”

Mijatovic is just back from a fact-finding mission to Ukraine.

“Media is used as a tool for manipulation,” she said. “Channels are switched off overnight, like it happened in Crimea, and replaced with channels originating from the Russian federation.”

“So the pattern is known, unfortunately. And it is something that is happening as we speak.”

The state of Ukraine media freedom

Click above to watch Mijatovic’s full interview with Amanpour.

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  1. Geoff Whyte

    Media under siege in Ukraine could well mean something is about to happen very soon?... we can now expect an increasing degree of propaganda from the russian media..(if that is possible!)

    April 21, 2014 at 5:31 pm | Reply
    • owen

      just to let everyone know. Although it is true that Ukrainian channels are no longer accessible in Crimea, the same has happened in Ukraine with Russian channels. The Kiev government has switched off access to Russian state channels. So, I think this is a case of the pot calling the Kettle black. As they say.

      April 22, 2014 at 7:42 am | Reply
      • owen

        In addition, I'd like to share with you how the current government has been dealing with the media in Ukraine that did not overtly support Maidan.
        This politician is from the Svabodo party. He beat the director of a Ukrainian tv channel until the man resigned. It happened last month and has been widely condemned. The politlican still walks free. Svabodo has power over the courts of justice, so no wonder. This government in kiev is not supported by Ukrainians. It's a dictatorship and those who ask for Russian assistance can be understood. Putin is not a model of democracy, but he is supported by the majority of people in his country. Crimeans were genuinely afraid of the current Kiev government, as are those in Eastern Ukraine. You can't talk about democracy and at the same time support an undemocratic junta in Kiev. no one voted for them, yet they're there giving hypocrtical speeches about democracy and civil rights. People in Eastern Ukraine only want their rights. Russian language recognition is a long time overdue.

        April 22, 2014 at 7:52 am |
      • Katie

        I'm pretty sure the government in Kiev has every right to defend itself from Russian terrorists and Russian propaganda by turning off the channels that promote that. So no, its not the pot calling the kettle black.

        April 22, 2014 at 1:38 pm |
      • owen

        Katie, have you read ? Ukrainian propaganda is really off the charts. Recently they published a story saying Putin had called the Ukraine population a secondary nation. It was a deliberate misquote of what Putin had said. What he actually said was people in West Ukraine had been historically part of different countries and during that time treated as second class citizens, which is a complete misrepresentation. So, if Crimean can't see Ukrainian propaganda and all Ukraine can't see Russian channels, isn't it the same? I suggest you open your eyes a little.

        April 22, 2014 at 2:33 pm |
      • owen

        I'd like to add, you should be careful who you call a terrorist. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The Russian activists are using the same tactics as Maidan activists. The methods are the same. All people in those areas want are there rights. Russian as a national language.

        April 22, 2014 at 2:35 pm |
      • SoE


        Yes we will be careful to who will call terrorist and we will be extra careful to listen to someone who supports Putins regime so firecely as you do.
        I think that if we would trace your IP address it can lead us to the FSB central as well.

        April 22, 2014 at 4:51 pm |
    • René Stuber

      Individual members of the OSCE should not be allowed to talk directly to the press and CNN should not go on picking those cherries they like best. The organisation collectively does a good information job and Annapour can do what she wants, she can even visit the TV studios in Kiev and tell us what happens there,

      April 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm | Reply
    • cancze

      And we can expect even more propaganda from Kiev and of course from the non-credible and hypocritical western media, Amanpour included.

      April 25, 2014 at 8:40 pm | Reply
  2. Jiri Zemlicka

    My family and myself witnessed the Soviet (Russian) occupation of (former) Czechoslovakia in 1968. Russian specialty is to attack their allies (!) with brute force at the slightest indication of their displeasure with local political affairs. All neighboring countries of former USSR or Russia from Finland to Rumania lived throughout this experience at some point of their recent history. The specific feature of Russian colonialism is that the colonizer is less developed and more obsolete than the countries subjected to its colonial repression. The fall of USSR was a joy for all repressed but a disappointment for former exploiters. It is not surprising that Russia will again try to resurrect their failed empire by whatever means necessary.

    April 21, 2014 at 5:49 pm | Reply
    • gfmohn

      The traditional name for Russia was "Prison of Peoples." Nothing has changed.

      April 21, 2014 at 11:48 pm | Reply
    • Suska

      I'm sorry but that's just bigotry. Here's what Jews are like, blacks are like this blah, blah, blah. I will say this however. Imperial powers have certain traits in common regardless of their ethnicity. They have a similar effect on their subjects. What you just said sounds a lot like what has been said of the US by Native and African Americans and of the UK by the many countries they have colonized.

      I am Ukrainian and I love Russians too. I think we are more alike than different. I love Russian novels, movies etc. I don't let any government or western propaganda news outlet or seething personal testimony cause me to hate a particular country or ethnic group.

      April 22, 2014 at 12:23 am | Reply
      • Slavik

        Suska, I am also Ukrainian and also have an affinity for Russian people and their culture (though not uniquely – I like many cultures of the world!). I have no problem, in principle, with Russian people and I count many, both in Ukraine and in Russia as my friends. However, you are confusing criticism of the neo-Fascist Russian government and its brutal nominally 'socalist' predecessors with criticism of Russian people or culture. This is not fair. A common chant of putin's media campaign is to label anybody who speaks against his imperialism as a 'Russophobe.' You and I both know that this is nonsense. Ukrainian people as with most other countries in the world uniformly see Putin's government as the neo-fascist terrible neighbors that they are.

        April 22, 2014 at 2:15 am |
      • guest

        Suska, what you say about how the US treats blacks and native Americans is just not applicable today. The US has a half black president today, and he identifies himself as a black. As far as the Native Americans go, it wasn't their land to lose. They migrated from place to place, and one thing is for sure. In the 30 years I've been paying taxes, I have not reaped a single benefit as the blacks or Native Americans have. That is in today's time. If the Ukraine wants to go back to Russia, then let them. It's not any of my business. Good luck to you.

        April 22, 2014 at 10:40 am |
      • dw

        i also like early release of new films via Russian cams 🙂

        April 22, 2014 at 11:19 am |
      • johnjo are here spouting propaganda on behalf of Putin's ilk mainly, so don't say you're all "Lovey Dovey" you are not.

        April 22, 2014 at 10:54 pm |
    • Levent Inanc

      I perfectly understand the feeling of many Czechs, Poles, Latvians, Lithuaninas, Estonians with this crisis. As a member of Turkish-speaking muslim community of Bulgaria I can complain much more than anybody joining this discussion of Russian imperialism. The Russian imperialist ambitions resulted in severe destruction of my community and that has continued for decades under the Bulgarian administration. But to be frank, in the situation with Ukraine I can't blame only the Russians for the current crisis. Russian media coverage of the situation may be one sided, but the western media who claims to be "independent" is biased as well. The simplest explanation: The protesters in Kiev were greeted as peaceful and pro-democracy (i.e. pro-western) oriented, regardless that they blocked the government buildings, damaged public property and attacked the security forces. They demanded the President to resign, because he favoured Russian offer instead of that of the EU. The same western media witnesses the similar story in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, where people are blocking government buildings, protesting against the Kiev government and their preference for closer relations with US and EU instead of Russia. But this time these protesters are labelled as terrorists, separatists, Russian provocators etc., and the western media coverage, as well as the response from EU and US politicians is in the same directions. Those Ukrainians who would like to be in closer relations with Washington and EU are pro-democracy oriented, but those who prefer closer ties with Russia are terrorists, separatists, provocators. Isn't that whole story ridiculous?

      April 22, 2014 at 5:59 am | Reply
      • Observer

        I am amused when a descent of a nation, which mastered genocides throughout 20th century, complains on oppression of Turkish community in Bulgary. In Bulgary, which was conquered and slaughtered by Turks throughout centuries. If not Russians and Polish, you guys would trash all the Europe. Or may be you will complain that Armenians do not treat Turks well? God bless Russians, who saved Greeks, Bulgarians, Yugoslavs and many many Christian indigenous nations from extinction, and almost managed to deliberate Constantinople (God strafe Godless England for interfering every time against Russia) If you do not like in Bulgary, you can leave to middle Asia, where your ancestors came from to trash the best lands on the Earth

        April 22, 2014 at 4:33 pm |
      • homer

        I somewhat agree with you but the fact of the matter is that the protesters in Kiev were fighting for a principle they truly believed in. Kiev has every right to protest and if they were doing something that Ukraine didn't believe in or something they did believe in.... so what it comes down to is Ukraine is not Russia and Putin has no right to even go into Ukraine without the permission of Ukraine.If you really listen to what Putin says you would see that he has no respect for Ukraine and believes it his duty to go in and de-escalate the situation. I guess for good measure he also decided that Crimea belongs to Russia. Hopefully the Crimeans see this for what it is.....a hostile takeover of the country that they claim to love....

        April 24, 2014 at 5:06 pm |
    • Ion Ionescu

      Wish you all the best from Romania.I also remember1968 and im proud that my country .

      April 23, 2014 at 5:08 am | Reply
  3. Sausage Frenzy

    CNN propaganda on this and on Syria is a complete joke. One sided and blatant. The only victim are Americans who read this drivel and nothing else.

    April 21, 2014 at 6:33 pm | Reply
    • johnjo

      I suppose the truth is hard for RT & Rossiya 1 Putin's propaganda service viewers to take; I mean CNN doesn't have to check with President what they can publish & can't & have no fear of being closed down for same. So Sausage Frenzy, take the plank out of your eye!

      April 22, 2014 at 10:59 pm | Reply
      • Den

        Stop talking about Putin's propaganda.
        Let's compare your democratic and free media with our DIRECT CONTACT with people. We all have got friends in Ukraine. Every second of us has got relatives there. We phone and email every day. Your west media is such selective in facts and comments that I can say they are absolutly liars. My colleague's relatives say they all sit home in Lugansk and wish Russia to bring in troops. My wife's friends live in deep village Kirillovka of Akimov region in Zaporozhye. They say good for yanukovich fled, but what people rules in Kiev now is awful.

        Need to notice as I understand the mostly moods in the East Ukraine, they want Russia to bring in troops, kill "bad guys" and get away from Ukraine, free of charge. But it is not possible, I think.

        April 23, 2014 at 5:35 am |
      • cancze

        Gullible turds like you are big part of the problem.

        April 25, 2014 at 8:46 pm |
  4. Jay

    CNN is the biggest purveyor of propaganda there is...

    April 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm | Reply
  5. Billy Joe

    It is amazing the Russian Propaganda machine even all over the comment sections of articles. Russia under the weight of so much corruption, looks to bolster it-self by picking on a weak neighbor.

    April 21, 2014 at 9:02 pm | Reply
    • owen

      While America rapes the human rights of every country in the world, you talk about Russian propaganda? Picking on a weaker neighbour? USA supported the uprising in Maidan and supports fascist organisations in eastern Europe as a matter of policy. I'll never understand how people can be so easily brain washed.

      April 22, 2014 at 8:00 am | Reply
      • Billy Joe

        Russia is the country that is invading Ukraine.

        April 22, 2014 at 1:11 pm |
      • owen

        When the majority of people in Crimea wanted to join Russia, it's hard to call it an invasion. At the moment, while it's very probable Russians are inside East Ukraine, it is quite understandable when you consider the threat of the Kiev fascists against the Russian speaking population. If Kiev wants to keep Ukraine together, why don't they federalize the state? Give those people in Eastern Ukraine their rights? They won't do that because it doesn't fit their fascist agenda. They want war with Russia.

        April 22, 2014 at 2:29 pm |
      • johnjo

        Blah, blah, blah.

        April 22, 2014 at 11:00 pm |
      • Scrut

        Billy Joe,

        no it is not

        April 25, 2014 at 7:38 am |
      • William do Vale

        I think none of you will very soon have something to complain about. Elections in Ukraine are coming in May and nobody will be able to call Ukraine's government a 'dictatorship', right?

        April 25, 2014 at 8:46 am |
      • cancze

        Billy Joe is definitely not a freethinker.

        April 25, 2014 at 8:48 pm |
  6. RGG

    Media under siege? For months even years the reporting on anything relating to Russia is slightly tainted. It is clearly not objective and almost always is politicized.
    This is clear by calling the protestors in eastern Ukraine as terrorists and rebels and not simply the protestors. Clearly some are armed no different as the protesters in Kiev were.
    The occupation of government buildings has been a tactic in Ukraine since Nov Dec regardless of who is protesting. Why is it different now?
    Legal occupation and illegal occupation is no different in this case the intendant purpose of these buildings is for governing the country not to be held hostage by any group.
    The fact that western governments did not show support for the Ukraine Government throughout the Maidan protests and actually showed support for the protestors showed that the western governments showed little to no respect for Ukraines Sovereignty and internal democracy.
    To date the Western media have not shown or even explored or shown evidence that, the maidan protests were supported from the entire Ukraine population including the population in eastern and southern Ukraine. And the fact that the eastern and southern population had been the supporters and had voted for the Yanukovich Government.
    If the media do not act responsibly and report all sides of the issues equally and unbiased, then they should not be able to operate freely.
    Now that the western media and governments have alienated 30% of the Ukraine's population the result will only have one outcome which will at best allow Ukraine remain as a country but likely as a federation. Which is only forcing the situation to be exactly as Russia wants it.

    April 21, 2014 at 9:06 pm | Reply
  7. Billy Joe

    Wow, I rest my case... Your response was almost immediate. ...The difference is that Russia is invading Ukraine systematically, by sending in special forces and paying the disadvantage to act out. Nobody is fooled by masks, uniforms with no markings and Russian military grade weapons. If it wasn't tragic, it would be laughable.

    April 21, 2014 at 9:45 pm | Reply
    • Scrut

      And the "West" has been funding the bloody Maidan. When the pro-western people killed people and occupied buildings, they were called "protesters". But when pro-russian people do the exact same, it is called "terrorism". Now THAT is the work of a very efficient propaganda machine – and too many fools are falling for the "US/Ukraine=good, Russia=bad" nonsense.

      April 25, 2014 at 7:42 am | Reply
  8. olga

    Ukrainian government shut Off all Russian channels, not vice versa. People in Crimea can watch both Russian and Ukrainian channels. Whatever CNN is telling people is complete BS. Ukrainian government is deporting Russian journalists, but let's American and European journalists in the country by hundreds. People are opening their eyes now and see what that "Ukrainian" democracy really is. They will not be able to bend the truth for much longer

    April 21, 2014 at 11:57 pm | Reply
    • Slavik

      Russian disinformation campaign in full swing thanks to Olga. Here's the reality: Russians shut off Ukrainian TV in both Crimea and portions of Eastern Ukraine. One of the very first things Russian special forces did in Slovyansk was to commandeer the local transmitter there and change it to Russian only channels. Ukraine has epxlled a tiny number (hardly 'hundreds') of journalists linked to the most egregious lies only – there continue to be hundreds of russian journalists in Ukraine. Meanwhile, russia expelled third party US journlists simply for asking questions about Russia. Putin's russia continues its cynical campaign of media control at home (note the recent putinization of RIA Novosti) and even legitimate policial opposition websites, such as those of Navalny and Kasparov and opposition news sources such as Daily Journal are blocked in Russia by the neo facsict regime. The real question is: do Putinists EVER tell the truh?

      April 22, 2014 at 3:01 am | Reply
      • Scrut

        Some facts for those that fall for the anti-russian Propaganda: it was not Russia switching off Ukraine channels (except one in Crimea). The article here deals with the Ukraine switching of all major Russian channels. Little factoid for you: what the Ukraine did was called "repressive" and "censorship" by the OSCE. So yes, the pro-western Ukraine is the bad guy in this story. Wake up and stop believing the propaganda of "US/Ukraine=good, Russia=bad".

        April 25, 2014 at 7:47 am |
    • If you tell a big enough lie...

      Maybe the people in Ukraine need satellite dishes. Problem solved! (although I'm sure the cable companies will run commercials saying if you want all the channels clearer... both russian AND ukrainian... that aren't interrupted by rainstorms and such... you should switch to Time-Warner Cable)

      Note: sarcasm highlighted.

      April 22, 2014 at 5:36 pm | Reply
    • menisino

      Good on Ukraine, Olga, now go & make some cabbage rolls for your Russian military.

      April 22, 2014 at 6:30 pm | Reply
    • johnjo

      Olga, & Russia's "Little green men in little green uniforms" otherwise known as "Hamsters" are attacking or cajoling the pro Russian activists to attack not only Ukrainian journalists but also foreign journalists. So Olga, go back & do some real research.

      April 22, 2014 at 11:05 pm | Reply
    • William do Vale

      Olga, very soon you won't have anything to complain about. Elections in Ukraine are coming in May and nobody will be able to call Ukraine's government a 'dictatorship', right?

      April 25, 2014 at 8:50 am | Reply
  9. Suska

    Good analysis! Here's something you might like to read;

    April 22, 2014 at 12:01 am | Reply
    • redwhiteandblue

      Unfortunate truth.

      April 22, 2014 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • Dave

      Good time line article to where we are today.

      April 22, 2014 at 4:27 pm | Reply
      • uggnojjrtd

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  10. Katarina Verdadero

    Here's a book the naïve people out there should read:

    Hopefully you will all realise that CNN is indeed a purveyor of propaganda

    April 22, 2014 at 3:16 am | Reply
    • Slavik

      and, "Katerina" takse another page from her Kremlin propaganda handbook: when you have no actual facts to support your case, throw a tantrum with the widest possible accusations about the other side being a 'purveyor of propaganda.' Katarina – tell your Kremlin bosses that after months of putin lies and propagandist shills, nobody but nobody is buying it any more. If you have a SPECIFIC claim to make against this article, then let's have it.

      April 22, 2014 at 4:08 am | Reply
      • JP

        I could not have said it better my self.

        April 22, 2014 at 4:48 am |
      • If you tell a big enough lie...

        I read in the Inquirer that Putin is really a space alien from a race that wants to capture the Chernobyl facility, since we all know from the Transformers movie that experimentation with alien technology was the cause. Putin and his alien cohorts want to take the site under "Russian" control, as they control the military so that they can retrieve alien artifacts from the melted core and take them back to their home planet to fight a devestating war. Ukraine is simple caught in the middle.... WE MUST OPPOSE THE ALIENS! GO UKRAINE!!! Earth is depending on you!

        April 22, 2014 at 5:34 pm |
      • Scrut

        And your post was in any way better ... how exactly?
        Or do you just spit out hate messages when people don't agree with anti-russian propaganda lies?

        April 25, 2014 at 7:56 am |
  11. Terence Hale

    With US Vice-President Biden is due to meet Ukraine's he may have damaged his endeavor to be the next President of America. With America toughing money at the problem Ukraine they forget you cannot buy a new ideology, America sinks deeper and deeper with more to come, it’s sad to watch.

    April 22, 2014 at 4:32 am | Reply
    • If you tell a big enough lie...

      No one will care in a US Presidential election that Uncle Joe went to Ukraine, there are far more pressing domestic issues he will have to deal with. This was a trip to shore up Ukrainian confidence to oppose Russia, and to handshake the leaders of Ukraine, pushing them toward the May elections. It was symbolic, but I assure you will have little to no impact on the election. Biden was a foreign policy wonk long before he was VP...

      April 22, 2014 at 5:30 pm | Reply
  12. Real face of Russia

    Actually, pro Russian forces are real neo-nazis. Look at their channel on youtube. КПЕ ТВ .

    This is propagated over all occupied territories at Slavyansk via cable, air TV channels. Channel is full of hatred, chauvinism, antisemitic text, etc.

    Real new face of Russia. Be warned!

    April 22, 2014 at 5:47 am | Reply
  13. Natalia

    to "Real face of Russia", "Slavik" -console yourself with lies.
    Look at this post as diversity of views

    April 22, 2014 at 8:36 am | Reply
    • Dave

      I don't agree with everything on RT but it's true, I'm confused too....does the "west" always have to pick one side and the "east" the exact opposite and at the same time each side puffs up and declares it's right? Usually it seems like the best option is somewhere in between. But meanwhile blood is spilled, people are killed and time moves on...and then, in the course of time, enemies become friendly like the US & North Vietnam and you look back and say what the hell are we doing?

      April 22, 2014 at 4:57 pm | Reply
  14. David

    Its obvious why they do not want journalists as the russians involvment will be caught in ukraine.

    April 22, 2014 at 2:33 pm | Reply
  15. If you tell a big enough lie...

    How many Russian comment trolls does the Kremlin employ? Hilarious. So an OSCE observer (Russia is part of the OSCE) files a report on media intimidation, stating that there is a systematic oppression happening by pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, and that local television channels are being replaced by RUSSIAN originated stations, which takes some technical doing, and people come out of the woodwork to defend Russia, blast Ukrainian "propaganda" and further muck up the report. Of course, the non-sequitors about what the Ukranians have, or will do... does NOT change the fact that the Russians are manipulating the media, something they have IMMENSE experience with. Oh yeah... I'm waiting for more of the comment trolls to respond and further add to the noise... 🙂

    April 22, 2014 at 5:26 pm | Reply
  16. menisino

    Owen , that's a very good English name you chose. Does it translate to Orest in your Russian native language?

    April 22, 2014 at 6:28 pm | Reply
    • MARCO

      I don't speak Russian but I'll have a guess. It means Vietnam. Now I'll ask you a question. Who is running the western part of Ukraine, the CIA, the foul-mouthed woman or the American vice-president?

      April 23, 2014 at 6:14 pm | Reply
  17. Dre

    Oh my God, I can't believe there are so much propaganda on CNN. Yeah, media in Ukraine is “under siege,” because they switched off all russian channels and now are brainwashing us 24/7. THERE ARE NO RUSSIAN MEDIA RIGHT NOW IN UKRAINE, and this article is a straight lie.

    And april 17th Amanpour told that Putin called Luhansk, Donietsk and Kharkiv regions of Ukraine "the New Russia", and that he said "God only knows why those regions are Ukranian", like he is an agressor and wants to annex them. Gosh, no wonder guys you hate him. What he actually said, was an answer about the history of those regions, which for centuries were a part of the Novorossia (or New Russia) province, and "God only knows" he said, "why bolsheviks in 20s separated those regions and included them into Ukraine". And that's all he said.

    Do you see how propaganda works? Amanpour is simply lying and misquoting, and that is sad. I'm no Putin's fan, I just want to show you how brainwashing works. I recommend you to watch two propaganda machines – CNN and RT, as I do. Getting information from two opposite sides, you can find the truth, that's always somewhere in the middle.

    April 22, 2014 at 9:45 pm | Reply
    • MARCO

      She did the same before the Sochi games. Anti-Russian propaganda so blatant and lacking finesse that even Americans noticed it. She now has a sort of advertisement where she is shown interviewing various people and wonder of wonder, she advertises her questions not the answer by some of the world's readers. That is quite amazing. I've never seen anything like it!

      April 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm | Reply
  18. bremont

    IRAQ repeat however this iraq repeat by washington has the coalition of the willing NATO-OTAN, and the ukrainian collapse, ukraine is gone ask BHL and brainwashignton; so this media war CNN,FOX, main media. bit, is related to banks, as it is banks that are on the back footing and the media strikes back, this media banks wars, is as well entangle with a real war. however it looks PUTIN is a very good strategist and Obama brainwash house police state; is not. Russia is not blinking so will you risk a radioactive new york or you america back off, or there shall be nukes.. for the position of Russia they know what they are doing so they do have calculated your moves.."us navy & army" so is clear that the war strategic response is already plan, the quiet Putin and the mighty russia could just have sufficient nukes now in place to win his war, and indeed put the usa of america under ashes. the usa can respond but there shall be no new york alive neither lots of other places in america perhaps folks you might have to impeach the men (Obama) before he kills the lot of you and us. and destroy the planet at large.

    April 23, 2014 at 4:12 am | Reply
  19. king

    Stupid Putin and crazy Obama

    April 23, 2014 at 5:07 pm | Reply
  20. Terence Hale

    The strange affair of the OSCE and the German involvement. German sending regular army officer as members of the OSCE mission violated the Vienna agreement and was a directed action of the German defense minister. The minister welcoming them back after there release was like “Wickie und die starken Männer” child fair tail. The German involvement is open to speculation.

    May 5, 2014 at 7:53 am | Reply
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